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om606 flywheel

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boyt
K26-2

25
10-06-2013, 11:27 AM #1
Hello
Does anyone know what the part number is for a flywheel for a om606 manual.

Thanks in advance
Andy
boyt
10-06-2013, 11:27 AM #1

Hello
Does anyone know what the part number is for a flywheel for a om606 manual.

Thanks in advance
Andy

hooblah
Holset

401
10-06-2013, 07:06 PM #2
You mean the flex plate? Ive got one going spare if youre after one?
hooblah
10-06-2013, 07:06 PM #2

You mean the flex plate? Ive got one going spare if youre after one?

boyt
K26-2

25
10-08-2013, 12:19 PM #3
Sorry I mean om603 flywheel. Must be solid and not dual mass.
Regards Andy
boyt
10-08-2013, 12:19 PM #3

Sorry I mean om603 flywheel. Must be solid and not dual mass.
Regards Andy

Druk
Holset

297
10-08-2013, 04:08 PM #4
The following part number is for a generic 603.912...whatever that is.
Without a specific Vin number it's difficult if not impossible to provide an accurate part number.

however:- A603 030 06 05 is a single mass flywheel fitted to this engine.
Druk
10-08-2013, 04:08 PM #4

The following part number is for a generic 603.912...whatever that is.
Without a specific Vin number it's difficult if not impossible to provide an accurate part number.

however:- A603 030 06 05 is a single mass flywheel fitted to this engine.

boyt
K26-2

25
10-08-2013, 04:46 PM #5
That's the correct one cheers. Who do you guys use for that part supply
And how much
boyt
10-08-2013, 04:46 PM #5

That's the correct one cheers. Who do you guys use for that part supply
And how much

THE DIGGER
K26-2

35
11-07-2013, 03:37 PM #6
Look it up here, you'll need google translate though!
http://www.detali.ru/
THE DIGGER
11-07-2013, 03:37 PM #6

Look it up here, you'll need google translate though!
http://www.detali.ru/

raysorenson
Superturbo

1,162
11-07-2013, 07:43 PM #7
(11-07-2013, 02:04 PM)_siim_ I can help with custom lightweight flywheel Smile
Then you can use nascar 7.25 clutch which holds aloot of torq/power and its cheap to ebay.

Hi,
Can I keep my throwout bearing/slave cylinder setup from my 16v trans with this clutch?
raysorenson
11-07-2013, 07:43 PM #7

(11-07-2013, 02:04 PM)_siim_ I can help with custom lightweight flywheel Smile
Then you can use nascar 7.25 clutch which holds aloot of torq/power and its cheap to ebay.

Hi,
Can I keep my throwout bearing/slave cylinder setup from my 16v trans with this clutch?

97e300
(its a 98 now)

109
11-07-2013, 08:06 PM #8
How much are you looking to get for that flywheel, slim?
97e300
11-07-2013, 08:06 PM #8

How much are you looking to get for that flywheel, slim?

Simpler=Better
PORTED HEAD

2,127
11-08-2013, 04:24 PM #10
(11-08-2013, 03:13 AM)_siim_
(11-07-2013, 07:43 PM)raysorenson
(11-07-2013, 02:04 PM)_siim_ I can help with custom lightweight flywheel Smile
Then you can use nascar 7.25 clutch which holds aloot of torq/power and its cheap to ebay.

Hi,
Can I keep my throwout bearing/slave cylinder setup from my 16v trans with this clutch?

Yes

Price is 350-.eur + shipping

But I think the shipping to Usa cost a lot,it weights 2,2kg

That's only 5lbs, the size will be the issue shipping it

Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
11-08-2013, 04:24 PM #10

(11-08-2013, 03:13 AM)_siim_
(11-07-2013, 07:43 PM)raysorenson
(11-07-2013, 02:04 PM)_siim_ I can help with custom lightweight flywheel Smile
Then you can use nascar 7.25 clutch which holds aloot of torq/power and its cheap to ebay.

Hi,
Can I keep my throwout bearing/slave cylinder setup from my 16v trans with this clutch?

Yes

Price is 350-.eur + shipping

But I think the shipping to Usa cost a lot,it weights 2,2kg

That's only 5lbs, the size will be the issue shipping it


Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?

raysorenson
Superturbo

1,162
11-10-2013, 10:10 AM #11
Where do you get a Tilton clutch disc hub that is splined for the MB input shaft?

Are they available for the long input shaft transmissions and the short input shaft 6 speeds?
raysorenson
11-10-2013, 10:10 AM #11

Where do you get a Tilton clutch disc hub that is splined for the MB input shaft?

Are they available for the long input shaft transmissions and the short input shaft 6 speeds?

_siim_
W201STD

21
11-12-2013, 03:34 PM #12
(11-10-2013, 10:10 AM)raysorenson Where do you get a Tilton clutch disc hub that is splined for the MB input shaft?

Are they available for the long input shaft transmissions and the short input shaft 6 speeds?

Plug and play.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tilton-OT-II-7-2...d3&vxp=mtr

Black beast....
_siim_
11-12-2013, 03:34 PM #12

(11-10-2013, 10:10 AM)raysorenson Where do you get a Tilton clutch disc hub that is splined for the MB input shaft?

Are they available for the long input shaft transmissions and the short input shaft 6 speeds?

Plug and play.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tilton-OT-II-7-2...d3&vxp=mtr


Black beast....

raysorenson
Superturbo

1,162
11-12-2013, 06:13 PM #13
Thank you, _siim_ and EDH_Performance for the information. I've got a lot of reading to do.
raysorenson
11-12-2013, 06:13 PM #13

Thank you, _siim_ and EDH_Performance for the information. I've got a lot of reading to do.

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
11-13-2013, 04:01 PM #14
Wow. Just wow. Best driveline post of the year. Could one simply redrill the stock flywheel for this clutch?
This post was last modified: 11-13-2013, 04:05 PM by winmutt.

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
11-13-2013, 04:01 PM #14

Wow. Just wow. Best driveline post of the year. Could one simply redrill the stock flywheel for this clutch?


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

raysorenson
Superturbo

1,162
11-13-2013, 06:05 PM #15
I hadn't thought of that. I'm sure it can be done so long as the I.D. of the friction surface is small enough. Some of the clutches require a step (.1", IIRC) to be machined into the FW.

Those sintered metal 7.25 clutches will be unstreetable. The big question for me is: can you buy one of these used nascar clutches setup with the thin sintered metal discs and install thicker cerametallic or organic discs in it?

www.powertraintech.com makes a 7.25" 26 spline organic disc compatible with their stuff and Tilton clutches.

winmutt, you might also consider that the 606 FW the EDH linked to also allows the use of the 440 lb-ft capable Sachs 765 pressure plate. At 240mm, it should work with a 300e disc.
raysorenson
11-13-2013, 06:05 PM #15

I hadn't thought of that. I'm sure it can be done so long as the I.D. of the friction surface is small enough. Some of the clutches require a step (.1", IIRC) to be machined into the FW.

Those sintered metal 7.25 clutches will be unstreetable. The big question for me is: can you buy one of these used nascar clutches setup with the thin sintered metal discs and install thicker cerametallic or organic discs in it?

www.powertraintech.com makes a 7.25" 26 spline organic disc compatible with their stuff and Tilton clutches.

winmutt, you might also consider that the 606 FW the EDH linked to also allows the use of the 440 lb-ft capable Sachs 765 pressure plate. At 240mm, it should work with a 300e disc.

Mark_M
GT2559V

206
11-14-2013, 07:44 AM #16
what material is the flywheel made of siim?
Mark_M
11-14-2013, 07:44 AM #16

what material is the flywheel made of siim?

2996
K26-2

45
11-14-2013, 01:04 PM #17
I agree, these clutches are totally streetable, and even more so with a diesel. Just like with any different clutch setup, or when driving one car for another, you will need to make small adjustments to your driving. Once you get used to them, which is a fairly short learning curve, I actually prefer their behavior.

You can also shift nearly twice as fast if need be due to the lower inertia of the disks, and they are more friendly to the transmission syncros.

They also last a long time as well, and the rebuilds are very cost effective. In addition, the metallic material's coefficient of friction increases when they warm up, unlike organic materials which the coefficient of friction decreases with increasing temperature, which can lead to a slipping clutch.
2996
11-14-2013, 01:04 PM #17

I agree, these clutches are totally streetable, and even more so with a diesel. Just like with any different clutch setup, or when driving one car for another, you will need to make small adjustments to your driving. Once you get used to them, which is a fairly short learning curve, I actually prefer their behavior.

You can also shift nearly twice as fast if need be due to the lower inertia of the disks, and they are more friendly to the transmission syncros.

They also last a long time as well, and the rebuilds are very cost effective. In addition, the metallic material's coefficient of friction increases when they warm up, unlike organic materials which the coefficient of friction decreases with increasing temperature, which can lead to a slipping clutch.

raysorenson
Superturbo

1,162
11-14-2013, 05:54 PM #18
I say tomato, you guys say tomoto.

Some considerations:

Inline 6 engines have an inherent torsional vibration, not as bad as an I4, but worse than V6 or V8. Combine that with the super-low MOI of a 7.25 clutch and FW package and the lack of springs in the clutch plates and you will have a lot of NVH. Sporty? You bet. Loud? Check.

On/off switch. I've driven my share of aggressive clutches. Had a couple on daily drivers, got one on my motorcycle, and being both a car guy and a mechanic, I've gotten to drive lots of setups. I'm great at driving even the most miserable clutch, and by that measure, they're streetable. Do I want to back out of my steep driveway, which requires me to slip the clutch all the way to the top, every day? Does my fiancee want to drive it? Does my mother want to drive it? Will it get on my nerves in a traffic jam? Do I, at the age of 39, need to put up with that shit when I can just go out and buy a B5 Audi S4, an E39 M5 or maybe a 996? While I haven't ruled it out, I approach the idea of a 7.25" clutch with a lot of caution. I do know sintered metal is out. I don't even like it on my mountain bike brakes.
raysorenson
11-14-2013, 05:54 PM #18

I say tomato, you guys say tomoto.

Some considerations:

Inline 6 engines have an inherent torsional vibration, not as bad as an I4, but worse than V6 or V8. Combine that with the super-low MOI of a 7.25 clutch and FW package and the lack of springs in the clutch plates and you will have a lot of NVH. Sporty? You bet. Loud? Check.

On/off switch. I've driven my share of aggressive clutches. Had a couple on daily drivers, got one on my motorcycle, and being both a car guy and a mechanic, I've gotten to drive lots of setups. I'm great at driving even the most miserable clutch, and by that measure, they're streetable. Do I want to back out of my steep driveway, which requires me to slip the clutch all the way to the top, every day? Does my fiancee want to drive it? Does my mother want to drive it? Will it get on my nerves in a traffic jam? Do I, at the age of 39, need to put up with that shit when I can just go out and buy a B5 Audi S4, an E39 M5 or maybe a 996? While I haven't ruled it out, I approach the idea of a 7.25" clutch with a lot of caution. I do know sintered metal is out. I don't even like it on my mountain bike brakes.

raysorenson
Superturbo

1,162
11-15-2013, 10:44 AM #19
Who wants to drive 600hp smoking and screaming monsterdiesel to work every day? The reality of my situation is that my mom and my wife need to drive my car on occasion when I'm working on their diesels. 550-600nm seems to be a reasonable limit for the Mercedes IDI powerplants and yet still have "nice" car to depend on.

I'm not criticizing the choices you've made in building your car and I love reading build threads on such machines. It's just been my personal experience that building a car like ones I've seen on internet forums that everyone is jealous of can be a disappointing experience once you realize first hand how hard they are to live with.
raysorenson
11-15-2013, 10:44 AM #19

Who wants to drive 600hp smoking and screaming monsterdiesel to work every day? The reality of my situation is that my mom and my wife need to drive my car on occasion when I'm working on their diesels. 550-600nm seems to be a reasonable limit for the Mercedes IDI powerplants and yet still have "nice" car to depend on.

I'm not criticizing the choices you've made in building your car and I love reading build threads on such machines. It's just been my personal experience that building a car like ones I've seen on internet forums that everyone is jealous of can be a disappointing experience once you realize first hand how hard they are to live with.

john
GTA2056V

90
12-11-2013, 05:02 PM #20
My setup on om606 superdiesel in w123:
sachs 765 240 mm clutch, price: INCLUDING modified 220gasoline (freebee) singelmassflywheel. 400 euro
Kevlar singelclutch on special made bmwhub for zf gs6-53dz. Hold ALOT. Price 300 euro.
so for 700 euro I get a complete custom clutch that will be as almost my grandmother can drive it Wink

Holset power!
john
12-11-2013, 05:02 PM #20

My setup on om606 superdiesel in w123:
sachs 765 240 mm clutch, price: INCLUDING modified 220gasoline (freebee) singelmassflywheel. 400 euro
Kevlar singelclutch on special made bmwhub for zf gs6-53dz. Hold ALOT. Price 300 euro.
so for 700 euro I get a complete custom clutch that will be as almost my grandmother can drive it Wink


Holset power!

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
12-12-2013, 06:40 AM #21
Where did you get the kevlar clutch?

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
12-12-2013, 06:40 AM #21

Where did you get the kevlar clutch?


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

john
GTA2056V

90
12-12-2013, 11:19 AM #22
(12-12-2013, 06:40 AM)winmutt Where did you get the kevlar clutch?

Special ordered at bakaxeldelar.se
Made from ha 525tds kevlat clutch and specialordered hub.
Can provide uf someone needs one and dont speak swedish.

Holset power!
john
12-12-2013, 11:19 AM #22

(12-12-2013, 06:40 AM)winmutt Where did you get the kevlar clutch?

Special ordered at bakaxeldelar.se
Made from ha 525tds kevlat clutch and specialordered hub.
Can provide uf someone needs one and dont speak swedish.


Holset power!

SurfRodder
Jackass Extraordinaire

611
12-14-2013, 11:33 PM #23
(12-12-2013, 06:40 AM)winmutt Where did you get the kevlar clutch?

http://clutchnet.com/ makes them too. I think I will try to get a PP and Kevlar clutch made up for my 300e flywheel after I sell a 5 sp conversion kit.

W123 Mods: 4 speed ** manual climate control ** '85 Kalitucky intake ** manual windows & full tint ** Euro headlights retrofit w/bixenon projectors ** 4 brake light mod ** Vogtland 50mm drop front & Lesjofors S600 drop rear springs ** 16" rims ** late w126 brake spindles, rotors & calipers ** full suspension rehab ** Bilstein HDs ** AL129X alternator & 1/0 starter and charging cables ** 300GD clutch/flywheel ** AFCO 80103N radiator & Earl's 41610 oil cooler ** custom block-off plate, remote oil filter & t-stat ** MW IP w/ tomnik's 6.5mm 'Holly' elements **

S124 Mods: 400E Rear subframe ** SL600 Brakes ** Late 300E 210mm diff ** SLK230 6 speed ** 17" CLK rims ** Vented RF Fender ** Facelift Hood, Headlights, and Lower Cladding **

OBK# 62
SurfRodder
12-14-2013, 11:33 PM #23

(12-12-2013, 06:40 AM)winmutt Where did you get the kevlar clutch?

http://clutchnet.com/ makes them too. I think I will try to get a PP and Kevlar clutch made up for my 300e flywheel after I sell a 5 sp conversion kit.


W123 Mods: 4 speed ** manual climate control ** '85 Kalitucky intake ** manual windows & full tint ** Euro headlights retrofit w/bixenon projectors ** 4 brake light mod ** Vogtland 50mm drop front & Lesjofors S600 drop rear springs ** 16" rims ** late w126 brake spindles, rotors & calipers ** full suspension rehab ** Bilstein HDs ** AL129X alternator & 1/0 starter and charging cables ** 300GD clutch/flywheel ** AFCO 80103N radiator & Earl's 41610 oil cooler ** custom block-off plate, remote oil filter & t-stat ** MW IP w/ tomnik's 6.5mm 'Holly' elements **

S124 Mods: 400E Rear subframe ** SL600 Brakes ** Late 300E 210mm diff ** SLK230 6 speed ** 17" CLK rims ** Vented RF Fender ** Facelift Hood, Headlights, and Lower Cladding **

OBK# 62

2996
K26-2

45
03-02-2014, 10:29 PM #24
I cannot wait to try it out Cool! Are they ready to ship yet?

(11-15-2013, 08:45 AM)_siim_ Ok then,name some another clutch/flywheel setup vith can handle 700hp/1000nm and costs around 650-. eur. this is a good reason,

another thing,no one doesn't build 600hp smoking and screaming monsterdiesel to his mom,ok maybe few fins but not the normal guys.
2996
03-02-2014, 10:29 PM #24

I cannot wait to try it out Cool! Are they ready to ship yet?

(11-15-2013, 08:45 AM)_siim_ Ok then,name some another clutch/flywheel setup vith can handle 700hp/1000nm and costs around 650-. eur. this is a good reason,

another thing,no one doesn't build 600hp smoking and screaming monsterdiesel to his mom,ok maybe few fins but not the normal guys.

F.R.A.S
Holset

579
03-05-2014, 06:44 AM #25
Is this right?

26-splines... http://www.ebay.com/itm/TILTON-7-25-3-Di...75&vxp=mtr

But how do we know that this have the right shaft diameter?

F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg] [Image: GTX3582R.jpg] [Image: gs6-53dz_gearbox.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.
F.R.A.S
03-05-2014, 06:44 AM #25

Is this right?

26-splines... http://www.ebay.com/itm/TILTON-7-25-3-Di...75&vxp=mtr

But how do we know that this have the right shaft diameter?


F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg] [Image: GTX3582R.jpg] [Image: gs6-53dz_gearbox.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.

2996
K26-2

45
03-05-2014, 06:26 PM #26
It "should" be as the 26 spline generally refers to GM, which is the right diameter and number of splines for Mercedes Big Grin Good price but rough looking disks and floater plates. Likely needs a rebuild.

Warning to others! Confused

All good, save for not getting a flywheel from _siim_. Simo, where are you? You have quite a lot of my money for awhile now, and I would really appreciate it if you would send me the flywheels. Contact me.

Does any else know this guy?

Not looking good at all Angry



(03-05-2014, 06:44 AM)F.R.A.S Is this right?

26-splines... http://www.ebay.com/itm/TILTON-7-25-3-Di...75&vxp=mtr

But how do we know that this have the right shaft diameter?
2996
03-05-2014, 06:26 PM #26

It "should" be as the 26 spline generally refers to GM, which is the right diameter and number of splines for Mercedes Big Grin Good price but rough looking disks and floater plates. Likely needs a rebuild.

Warning to others! Confused

All good, save for not getting a flywheel from _siim_. Simo, where are you? You have quite a lot of my money for awhile now, and I would really appreciate it if you would send me the flywheels. Contact me.

Does any else know this guy?

Not looking good at all Angry



(03-05-2014, 06:44 AM)F.R.A.S Is this right?

26-splines... http://www.ebay.com/itm/TILTON-7-25-3-Di...75&vxp=mtr

But how do we know that this have the right shaft diameter?

raysorenson
Superturbo

1,162
03-06-2014, 06:01 PM #27
(03-05-2014, 06:26 PM)2996 Not looking good at all

Man, I'm sorry to hear. I hope it works out.

I just ordered a steel FW to fit the sachs 618 or 765 clutch from www.blingfactory.fi. I'll post in this thread how the transaction turns out.

I believe it's the same FW from bakaxel.se that EDH linked to above. Blingfactory claims to be the manufacturer of their flywheels and since bakaxel wants ~100 euro more, I'm assuming bakaxel is a reseller.
raysorenson
03-06-2014, 06:01 PM #27

(03-05-2014, 06:26 PM)2996 Not looking good at all

Man, I'm sorry to hear. I hope it works out.

I just ordered a steel FW to fit the sachs 618 or 765 clutch from www.blingfactory.fi. I'll post in this thread how the transaction turns out.

I believe it's the same FW from bakaxel.se that EDH linked to above. Blingfactory claims to be the manufacturer of their flywheels and since bakaxel wants ~100 euro more, I'm assuming bakaxel is a reseller.

2996
K26-2

45
03-06-2014, 07:02 PM #28
So do I, but I have news that he stopped working at Schmiedmann Finland just last week, right around the time when communication stopped. I was communicating regularly with him, as he was using his work email, the Schmiedmann one throughout, acting as an agent of the company in effect. Then, a few days ago, the email stopped working, and I got a message of failure to deliver Confused

Their website: www.schmiedmann.fi

I was going to get one of those, they look quite nice, and was ready to pull the trigger, until I saw what Siim was selling. Bad choice it seems Angry

(03-06-2014, 06:01 PM)raysorenson
(03-05-2014, 06:26 PM)2996 Not looking good at all

Man, I'm sorry to hear. I hope it works out.

I just ordered a steel FW to fit the sachs 618 or 765 clutch from www.blingfactory.fi. I'll post in this thread how the transaction turns out.

I believe it's the same FW from bakaxel.se that EDH linked to above. Blingfactory claims to be the manufacturer of their flywheels and since bakaxel wants ~100 euro more, I'm assuming bakaxel is a reseller.
2996
03-06-2014, 07:02 PM #28

So do I, but I have news that he stopped working at Schmiedmann Finland just last week, right around the time when communication stopped. I was communicating regularly with him, as he was using his work email, the Schmiedmann one throughout, acting as an agent of the company in effect. Then, a few days ago, the email stopped working, and I got a message of failure to deliver Confused

Their website: www.schmiedmann.fi

I was going to get one of those, they look quite nice, and was ready to pull the trigger, until I saw what Siim was selling. Bad choice it seems Angry

(03-06-2014, 06:01 PM)raysorenson
(03-05-2014, 06:26 PM)2996 Not looking good at all

Man, I'm sorry to hear. I hope it works out.

I just ordered a steel FW to fit the sachs 618 or 765 clutch from www.blingfactory.fi. I'll post in this thread how the transaction turns out.

I believe it's the same FW from bakaxel.se that EDH linked to above. Blingfactory claims to be the manufacturer of their flywheels and since bakaxel wants ~100 euro more, I'm assuming bakaxel is a reseller.

peter
Naturally-aspirated

17
03-07-2014, 01:44 PM #29
I think I will get a clutch like this too, but I am not shure if this 26 spline will fitt, because i can not find 26 spline with 1 1/8 inch from tilton. Will the 26 spline 1 5/32 inch from Tilton fitt?

The mercedes gearboxes have 1 1/8 inch or?
This post was last modified: 03-07-2014, 01:45 PM by peter.

94´E 300D ,white , black leather interior, om606.910,MB 5speed shifter
peter
03-07-2014, 01:44 PM #29

I think I will get a clutch like this too, but I am not shure if this 26 spline will fitt, because i can not find 26 spline with 1 1/8 inch from tilton. Will the 26 spline 1 5/32 inch from Tilton fitt?

The mercedes gearboxes have 1 1/8 inch or?


94´E 300D ,white , black leather interior, om606.910,MB 5speed shifter

raysorenson
Superturbo

1,162
03-07-2014, 03:05 PM #30
1 1/8"/1.120"/28.5mm.

http://www.powertraintech.com/Files/PDFs...20list.pdf

3rd from bottom on list
raysorenson
03-07-2014, 03:05 PM #30

1 1/8"/1.120"/28.5mm.

http://www.powertraintech.com/Files/PDFs...20list.pdf

3rd from bottom on list

2996
K26-2

45
03-07-2014, 03:23 PM #31
Nice list Ray. That opens up a lot of options as well Cool

(03-07-2014, 03:05 PM)raysorenson 1 1/8"/1.120"/28.5mm.

http://www.powertraintech.com/Files/PDFs...20list.pdf

3rd from bottom on list
2996
03-07-2014, 03:23 PM #31

Nice list Ray. That opens up a lot of options as well Cool

(03-07-2014, 03:05 PM)raysorenson 1 1/8"/1.120"/28.5mm.

http://www.powertraintech.com/Files/PDFs...20list.pdf

3rd from bottom on list

peter
Naturally-aspirated

17
03-07-2014, 03:26 PM #32
(03-07-2014, 03:05 PM)raysorenson 1 1/8"/1.120"/28.5mm.

http://www.powertraintech.com/Files/PDFs...20list.pdf

3rd from bottom on list

thanks Smile. This could be mentioned at the list for the sintermetallic discs from tilton too. i wonder why its called 1 5/32 if its the same like 1 1/8 Dodgy

94´E 300D ,white , black leather interior, om606.910,MB 5speed shifter
peter
03-07-2014, 03:26 PM #32

(03-07-2014, 03:05 PM)raysorenson 1 1/8"/1.120"/28.5mm.

http://www.powertraintech.com/Files/PDFs...20list.pdf

3rd from bottom on list

thanks Smile. This could be mentioned at the list for the sintermetallic discs from tilton too. i wonder why its called 1 5/32 if its the same like 1 1/8 Dodgy


94´E 300D ,white , black leather interior, om606.910,MB 5speed shifter

2996
K26-2

45
03-07-2014, 03:31 PM #33
It is just a GM specification or just how they write it for GM applications. Perhaps, it is a historic measurement.

(03-07-2014, 03:26 PM)peter
(03-07-2014, 03:05 PM)raysorenson 1 1/8"/1.120"/28.5mm.

http://www.powertraintech.com/Files/PDFs...20list.pdf

3rd from bottom on list

thanks Smile. This could be mentioned at the list for the sintermetallic discs from tilton too. i wonder why its called 1 5/32 if its the same like 1 1/8 Dodgy
2996
03-07-2014, 03:31 PM #33

It is just a GM specification or just how they write it for GM applications. Perhaps, it is a historic measurement.

(03-07-2014, 03:26 PM)peter
(03-07-2014, 03:05 PM)raysorenson 1 1/8"/1.120"/28.5mm.

http://www.powertraintech.com/Files/PDFs...20list.pdf

3rd from bottom on list

thanks Smile. This could be mentioned at the list for the sintermetallic discs from tilton too. i wonder why its called 1 5/32 if its the same like 1 1/8 Dodgy

john
GTA2056V

90
03-17-2014, 04:08 PM #34
(03-06-2014, 06:01 PM)raysorenson
(03-05-2014, 06:26 PM)2996 Not looking good at all

Man, I'm sorry to hear. I hope it works out.

I just ordered a steel FW to fit the sachs 618 or 765 clutch from www.blingfactory.fi. I'll post in this thread how the transaction turns out.

I believe it's the same FW from bakaxel.se that EDH linked to above. Blingfactory claims to be the manufacturer of their flywheels and since bakaxel wants ~100 euro more, I'm assuming bakaxel is a reseller.

not balanced, not machined to your specs of clutchdisk. They come in different thickness you know.
Why not order a original gas flywheel and have it machined and balanced to your exact specs? it would be cheaper to.
I think i paid 400 euro for mine balanced, machined, stitched to my specs including a brand new sachs 765 performance pressure plate.

Holset power!
john
03-17-2014, 04:08 PM #34

(03-06-2014, 06:01 PM)raysorenson
(03-05-2014, 06:26 PM)2996 Not looking good at all

Man, I'm sorry to hear. I hope it works out.

I just ordered a steel FW to fit the sachs 618 or 765 clutch from www.blingfactory.fi. I'll post in this thread how the transaction turns out.

I believe it's the same FW from bakaxel.se that EDH linked to above. Blingfactory claims to be the manufacturer of their flywheels and since bakaxel wants ~100 euro more, I'm assuming bakaxel is a reseller.

not balanced, not machined to your specs of clutchdisk. They come in different thickness you know.
Why not order a original gas flywheel and have it machined and balanced to your exact specs? it would be cheaper to.
I think i paid 400 euro for mine balanced, machined, stitched to my specs including a brand new sachs 765 performance pressure plate.


Holset power!

Gearbound
In need of a OM606.96x

172
03-17-2014, 07:19 PM #35
(11-15-2013, 08:45 AM)_siim_ Ok then,name some another clutch/flywheel setup vith can handle 700hp/1000nm and costs around 650-. eur. this is a good reason,

another thing,no one doesn't build 600hp smoking and screaming monsterdiesel to his mom,ok maybe few fins but not the normal guys.

I showed my mom the black smoke racing video. she said hell yeah she would drive that....Tongue I guess where not a normal family.

If its not inline its out of line Tongue
Gearbound
03-17-2014, 07:19 PM #35

(11-15-2013, 08:45 AM)_siim_ Ok then,name some another clutch/flywheel setup vith can handle 700hp/1000nm and costs around 650-. eur. this is a good reason,

another thing,no one doesn't build 600hp smoking and screaming monsterdiesel to his mom,ok maybe few fins but not the normal guys.

I showed my mom the black smoke racing video. she said hell yeah she would drive that....Tongue I guess where not a normal family.


If its not inline its out of line Tongue

raysorenson
Superturbo

1,162
03-17-2014, 10:08 PM #36
(03-17-2014, 04:08 PM)john not balanced, not machined to your specs of clutchdisk. They come in different thickness you know.
Why not order a original gas flywheel and have it machined and balanced to your exact specs? it would be cheaper to.
I think i paid 400 euro for mine balanced, machined, stitched to my specs including a brand new sachs 765 performance pressure plate.

I didn't balance my 16v flywheel. Just stuck it on there. I'm sure it's a neutral balance because the engine is still balanced.

If this transaction falls through, I'll get my current fw modded. As far as disc thickness, that will be sorted before I bolt it in. The 765 pressure plate alone will cost me almost what you've got in your whole setup. Congrats.
raysorenson
03-17-2014, 10:08 PM #36

(03-17-2014, 04:08 PM)john not balanced, not machined to your specs of clutchdisk. They come in different thickness you know.
Why not order a original gas flywheel and have it machined and balanced to your exact specs? it would be cheaper to.
I think i paid 400 euro for mine balanced, machined, stitched to my specs including a brand new sachs 765 performance pressure plate.

I didn't balance my 16v flywheel. Just stuck it on there. I'm sure it's a neutral balance because the engine is still balanced.

If this transaction falls through, I'll get my current fw modded. As far as disc thickness, that will be sorted before I bolt it in. The 765 pressure plate alone will cost me almost what you've got in your whole setup. Congrats.

john
GTA2056V

90
03-18-2014, 05:26 AM #37
(03-17-2014, 10:08 PM)raysorenson
(03-17-2014, 04:08 PM)john not balanced, not machined to your specs of clutchdisk. They come in different thickness you know.
Why not order a original gas flywheel and have it machined and balanced to your exact specs? it would be cheaper to.
I think i paid 400 euro for mine balanced, machined, stitched to my specs including a brand new sachs 765 performance pressure plate.

I didn't balance my 16v flywheel. Just stuck it on there. I'm sure it's a neutral balance because the engine is still balanced.

If this transaction falls through, I'll get my current fw modded. As far as disc thickness, that will be sorted before I bolt it in. The 765 pressure plate alone will cost me almost what you've got in your whole setup. Congrats.


No, it need to be a zerobalance flywheel. because its a singelmass and a lowrpm diesel you wont notice it as much but you will stress your inputbearing in gearbox. All 765 sachs plates are zerobalanced.
i can provide both balanced and moded flywheel and 765 plate for you from sweden. have a guy that sells flywheel of my specs including 765 for around 400 euro. just need a singelmass core. i will offcourse do it for free. offcourse you need gearbox that fits a singelmass fw but because mercedes gearboxes suck you most likely have to modify a bmw gearbox and then you can put the inputshaft at desired hight from housing.
Hate to see you spending money down the drain. you still need to have your new finish flywheel machined acording to your clutch plate specs so moore money will be plowed down in it.
Still, its not very expensive for a brand new flywheel.

Holset power!
john
03-18-2014, 05:26 AM #37

(03-17-2014, 10:08 PM)raysorenson
(03-17-2014, 04:08 PM)john not balanced, not machined to your specs of clutchdisk. They come in different thickness you know.
Why not order a original gas flywheel and have it machined and balanced to your exact specs? it would be cheaper to.
I think i paid 400 euro for mine balanced, machined, stitched to my specs including a brand new sachs 765 performance pressure plate.

I didn't balance my 16v flywheel. Just stuck it on there. I'm sure it's a neutral balance because the engine is still balanced.

If this transaction falls through, I'll get my current fw modded. As far as disc thickness, that will be sorted before I bolt it in. The 765 pressure plate alone will cost me almost what you've got in your whole setup. Congrats.


No, it need to be a zerobalance flywheel. because its a singelmass and a lowrpm diesel you wont notice it as much but you will stress your inputbearing in gearbox. All 765 sachs plates are zerobalanced.
i can provide both balanced and moded flywheel and 765 plate for you from sweden. have a guy that sells flywheel of my specs including 765 for around 400 euro. just need a singelmass core. i will offcourse do it for free. offcourse you need gearbox that fits a singelmass fw but because mercedes gearboxes suck you most likely have to modify a bmw gearbox and then you can put the inputshaft at desired hight from housing.
Hate to see you spending money down the drain. you still need to have your new finish flywheel machined acording to your clutch plate specs so moore money will be plowed down in it.
Still, its not very expensive for a brand new flywheel.


Holset power!

raysorenson
Superturbo

1,162
03-18-2014, 02:32 PM #38
Neutral balance=zero balance.

Thank you for the offer, I'll keep it in mind. I'd like to have to have the blingfactory FW since it will be heavier than a modded 16v flywheel. The gear rollover in my gearbox already sounds like a dump truck. Reducing mass will only make it worse. I've already paid for the FW and I can't make other plans until the flywheel either shows up or 45 days passes without delivery.

I've got a long input shaft Getrag 275 "Z" from a 16v. I think it will hold up.
raysorenson
03-18-2014, 02:32 PM #38

Neutral balance=zero balance.

Thank you for the offer, I'll keep it in mind. I'd like to have to have the blingfactory FW since it will be heavier than a modded 16v flywheel. The gear rollover in my gearbox already sounds like a dump truck. Reducing mass will only make it worse. I've already paid for the FW and I can't make other plans until the flywheel either shows up or 45 days passes without delivery.

I've got a long input shaft Getrag 275 "Z" from a 16v. I think it will hold up.

john
GTA2056V

90
03-18-2014, 04:30 PM #39
Since you need to machine your flywheel, its not balanced anymoore. Or find a clutch with exact specs of 765

Edit. And you have to put a starterring on and that will ad up.

Dont you have a tirebalancer to test it on?
This post was last modified: 03-19-2014, 06:11 AM by john.

Holset power!
john
03-18-2014, 04:30 PM #39

Since you need to machine your flywheel, its not balanced anymoore. Or find a clutch with exact specs of 765

Edit. And you have to put a starterring on and that will ad up.

Dont you have a tirebalancer to test it on?


Holset power!

raysorenson
Superturbo

1,162
03-18-2014, 06:34 PM #40
Great idea! I've got a few tire balancer options.
raysorenson
03-18-2014, 06:34 PM #40

Great idea! I've got a few tire balancer options.

john
GTA2056V

90
03-19-2014, 04:59 AM #41
thats what my fw guy does. uses his tiremachine Wink

Holset power!
john
03-19-2014, 04:59 AM #41

thats what my fw guy does. uses his tiremachine Wink


Holset power!

 
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