T3/T4 Hybrid
T3/T4 Hybrid
06-07-2009, 01:47 PM
#1
I am in the process of trying to squeeze all the power of the this engine. So far I have blocked off the EGR, installed a custom, because I built it - air filter intake. I made an air box that captures air form the stock location ( I will post pics later) and using an AEM dry filter. I took out the "kidneys" resonators and adjusted the waste gate. I am currently getting 11 psi of boost.
Any help will be appreciated. I know it won't bolt up to the intake, an intercooler is on the list too.
This post was last modified: 06-07-2009, 04:05 PM by Rudolf_Diesel.
Attached Files
Image(s)1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects
1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98
Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
06-07-2009, 01:47 PM #1I am toying around with the idea of installing a T3/T4 hybrid on my 1982 300sd. I am looking on ebay at the chinese turbos, I want to do some testing before I pay full price for a real Garret Hybrid. What A/R should I use? I was thinking of making the OEM a hybrid with the new turbo parts or adapting the new turbo to the engine.
I am in the process of trying to squeeze all the power of the this engine. So far I have blocked off the EGR, installed a custom, because I built it - air filter intake. I made an air box that captures air form the stock location ( I will post pics later) and using an AEM dry filter. I took out the "kidneys" resonators and adjusted the waste gate. I am currently getting 11 psi of boost.
Any help will be appreciated. I know it won't bolt up to the intake, an intercooler is on the list too.
Attached Files
Image(s)1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects
1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98
Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
06-11-2009, 05:27 AM
#3
A generic T4 "kit" won't work very well. There are many different types of T4 compressors and they each work very differently (some are made for high flow and some are for high pressure).
I'd suggest a turbo from a 3.5L OM603 (55 trim) or a 60 trim T3 from a Ford 2.3L (Mustang/Thunderbird). Both will support everything the MW pump can push out and will do it more efficiently than a T4.
ForcedInduction
06-11-2009, 05:27 AM
#3
I like that air dam, the filter is too small but that setup is still a far sight better than what most people "upgrade" to!
A generic T4 "kit" won't work very well. There are many different types of T4 compressors and they each work very differently (some are made for high flow and some are for high pressure).
I'd suggest a turbo from a 3.5L OM603 (55 trim) or a 60 trim T3 from a Ford 2.3L (Mustang/Thunderbird). Both will support everything the MW pump can push out and will do it more efficiently than a T4.
06-11-2009, 11:12 AM
#4
1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects
1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98
Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
06-11-2009, 11:12 AM #4Thanks for the info. The filter is an AEM Dryflow filter P/N 21-203DK and is rated at 819 CFM.
1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects
1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98
Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
06-21-2009, 10:44 PM
#5
Attached Files
Image(s)1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects
1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98
Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
06-21-2009, 10:44 PM #5Here are some pics as to the progress of the project. After many hours of research and calculations I decided to go with a T3/T4 T40E turbo.
Attached Files
Image(s)1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects
1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98
Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
06-22-2009, 10:57 AM
#6
This post was last modified: 06-22-2009, 10:58 AM by winmutt.
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
Wow purty and SHINY. I like SHINY. Whats the deal with the bracket looking thing on the intake where the stock airfilter would be? Do you have a map for that turbo?
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
06-22-2009, 11:02 AM
#7
(06-22-2009, 10:57 AM)winmutt Wow purty and SHINY. I like SHINY. Whats the deal with the bracket looking thing on the intake where the stock airfilter would be? Do you have a map for that turbo?
The bracket is where the trubo bolts to on a California model with a cat.
The map is available on the net, I don't have the reference right now. It is pretty much right in the center of the map, the stock turbo is way out of spec and it seems to fall on its face above 3000 rpm
1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects
1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98
Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
06-22-2009, 11:02 AM #7(06-22-2009, 10:57 AM)winmutt Wow purty and SHINY. I like SHINY. Whats the deal with the bracket looking thing on the intake where the stock airfilter would be? Do you have a map for that turbo?
The bracket is where the trubo bolts to on a California model with a cat.
The map is available on the net, I don't have the reference right now. It is pretty much right in the center of the map, the stock turbo is way out of spec and it seems to fall on its face above 3000 rpm
1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects
1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98
Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
ForcedInduction
06-22-2009, 07:20 PM
#8
Is the compressor a 40? If it is that would be pretty nice on the map.
06-23-2009, 12:46 AM
#9
According to calculations I need a 2.00 pressure ratio and 30 lbs./ min at 4350 rpm.
This post was last modified: 06-23-2009, 01:04 AM by Rudolf_Diesel.
Attached Files
Image(s)1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects
1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98
Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
06-23-2009, 12:46 AM #9It is supposed to be a 50 trim,
According to calculations I need a 2.00 pressure ratio and 30 lbs./ min at 4350 rpm.
Attached Files
Image(s)1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects
1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98
Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
06-23-2009, 09:03 AM
#11
(06-23-2009, 01:15 AM)ForcedInduction At sea level.
I live in Southern California and pretty much just drive around town, 350' elevation.
1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects
1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98
Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
06-23-2009, 09:03 AM #11(06-23-2009, 01:15 AM)ForcedInduction At sea level.
I live in Southern California and pretty much just drive around town, 350' elevation.
1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects
1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98
Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
06-26-2009, 12:31 PM
#13
(06-26-2009, 10:32 AM)benztek Any updates on this? I want to see how your turbo works out!
P.S. Nice to meet you in person Rolf! Hope the alignment worked out for you!
Still fabbing some parts, I am working on fixing the leaky oil return pipe. I plan on using 1" NPT tap to thread the hole and inserting a 1" 37 deg JIC fitting. I will also make a similar sized fitting for the turbo housing. I am hoping to install the weekend of the 4th of July.
I did some junk yard research yesterday and removed the rack limiter from an IP, pretty easy job. I will keep you updated as soon as I can...
Nice to meet you too.
This post was last modified: 06-26-2009, 12:32 PM by Rudolf_Diesel.
1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects
1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98
Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
06-26-2009, 12:31 PM #13(06-26-2009, 10:32 AM)benztek Any updates on this? I want to see how your turbo works out!
P.S. Nice to meet you in person Rolf! Hope the alignment worked out for you!
Still fabbing some parts, I am working on fixing the leaky oil return pipe. I plan on using 1" NPT tap to thread the hole and inserting a 1" 37 deg JIC fitting. I will also make a similar sized fitting for the turbo housing. I am hoping to install the weekend of the 4th of July.
I did some junk yard research yesterday and removed the rack limiter from an IP, pretty easy job. I will keep you updated as soon as I can...
Nice to meet you too.
1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects
1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98
Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
07-05-2009, 03:06 PM
#15
Before teardown
Before tear down
OEM oil return tube
Oil retrun tube removed
Starting to drill hole for pipe tap
1" NPT pipe tap
A little assistantce to tap hole
Tapped holes
Oil return line from catch can
New return line
Some pics of the completed project...
Exhaust manifold
Intake and exhaust manifolds
Turbo exhaust housing
Turbo exhaust with v-bands installed
T3/T40e installed
Another pick of intercooler
A closer look at intercooler and piping
This post was last modified: 07-05-2009, 03:50 PM by Rudolf_Diesel.
1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects
1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98
Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
07-05-2009, 03:06 PM #15Well I finished the install of my new turbo and have some pics to share. I also fixed the leaky turbo oil return, not mercedes OEM, but how they should have done it!
Before teardown
Before tear down
OEM oil return tube
Oil retrun tube removed
Starting to drill hole for pipe tap
1" NPT pipe tap
A little assistantce to tap hole
Tapped holes
Oil return line from catch can
New return line
Some pics of the completed project...
Exhaust manifold
Intake and exhaust manifolds
Turbo exhaust housing
Turbo exhaust with v-bands installed
T3/T40e installed
Another pick of intercooler
A closer look at intercooler and piping
1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects
1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98
Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
07-05-2009, 06:44 PM
#17
(07-05-2009, 03:06 PM)Rudolf_Diesel Well I finished the install of my new turbo and have some pics to share. I also fixed the leaky turbo oil return, not mercedes OEM, but how they should have done it!
Agreed! Very nice work. I've been wanting to do that since I bought my first 617, you just can't keep the factory o-ring tube from leaking
'Jurgen' - 1982 300sd cream paint with palimino MB tex interior. Now running with new cooling system
.......discovered oil cooler has pinhole @#$%@
Nitrile gloves back on......'Otto' - 1985 300sd anthracite? grey/silver? with grey leather interior. (heated front seats!!!!
) Euro headlightsMods are in the works...
Telecommbrkr
07-05-2009, 06:44 PM #17(07-05-2009, 03:06 PM)Rudolf_Diesel Well I finished the install of my new turbo and have some pics to share. I also fixed the leaky turbo oil return, not mercedes OEM, but how they should have done it!
Agreed! Very nice work. I've been wanting to do that since I bought my first 617, you just can't keep the factory o-ring tube from leaking
'Jurgen' - 1982 300sd cream paint with palimino MB tex interior. Now running with new cooling system
.......discovered oil cooler has pinhole @#$%@ Nitrile gloves back on......'Otto' - 1985 300sd anthracite? grey/silver? with grey leather interior. (heated front seats!!!!
) Euro headlightsMods are in the works...
07-05-2009, 07:51 PM
#18
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
07-05-2009, 07:51 PM #18how well dose it run now??? post some vid's on youtube did you notice a good power improvement? looks very good!!!
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
07-07-2009, 07:21 PM
#21
, but then I figured out I didn't set the waste gate correctly. I needed to put some preload on the actuator. I also installed my manual boost controller. I made the boost controller out of 6061-T6 aluminum and used two ball bearings on either side of the spring. It uses a set screw to adjust tension on the spring. I will post a pic when I get some time. I have adjusted the MBC and the boost peaks at 14 psi.
It starts to come on around 2000 and peaks at 4500. At 70 I am at around 4 and when I floor it it comes up to 10 pretty quick. I don't have the low end boost, but there is a compromise. I also have removed the rack limter and eliminated the ALDA, but I may put the ALDA back on since I am not building boost right off the line. I was experiencing some smoke when I would come to a stop, I think oil was making its way past the turbo shaft seals and getting into the exhaust side. Since I turned up the boost I haven't seen it.
I still need to hook up my EGT gauge and boost gauge...I ended up getting VDO in lieu of using my Sunpro boost gauge....
Does anyone want to but my old setup? I just rebuilt the turbo a month ago.
BTW, how much boost can I run?
This post was last modified: 07-07-2009, 07:35 PM by Rudolf_Diesel.
1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects
1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98
Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
07-07-2009, 07:21 PM #21Initially I was disappointed...only 8 pounds of boost, but then I figured out I didn't set the waste gate correctly. I needed to put some preload on the actuator. I also installed my manual boost controller. I made the boost controller out of 6061-T6 aluminum and used two ball bearings on either side of the spring. It uses a set screw to adjust tension on the spring. I will post a pic when I get some time.
I have adjusted the MBC and the boost peaks at 14 psi. It starts to come on around 2000 and peaks at 4500. At 70 I am at around 4 and when I floor it it comes up to 10 pretty quick. I don't have the low end boost, but there is a compromise.
I also have removed the rack limter and eliminated the ALDA, but I may put the ALDA back on since I am not building boost right off the line. I was experiencing some smoke when I would come to a stop, I think oil was making its way past the turbo shaft seals and getting into the exhaust side. Since I turned up the boost I haven't seen it.
I still need to hook up my EGT gauge and boost gauge...I ended up getting VDO in lieu of using my Sunpro boost gauge....
Does anyone want to but my old setup? I just rebuilt the turbo a month ago.
BTW, how much boost can I run?
1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects
1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98
Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
07-07-2009, 07:36 PM
#22
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
07-07-2009, 07:36 PM #22the c111 mercedes race car ran 22psi with no problem and broke many speed records I"v been told no more than 10psi with out an inter cooler though
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
07-07-2009, 08:46 PM
#25
(07-07-2009, 08:35 PM)ForcedInduction Anything more than 14psi with an MW pump is wasting energy.
I am not sure what you mean.
1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects
1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98
Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
07-07-2009, 08:46 PM #25(07-07-2009, 08:35 PM)ForcedInduction Anything more than 14psi with an MW pump is wasting energy.
I am not sure what you mean.
1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects
1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98
Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
07-07-2009, 09:06 PM
#26
ForcedInduction
07-07-2009, 09:06 PM
#26
The MW pump is capable of flowing enough fuel for about 145hp. 14psi is plenty to support that. Anything more is restricting the exhaust flow (wastegate) and overheating the charge air.
07-07-2009, 09:15 PM
#27
(07-07-2009, 07:36 PM)willbhere4u the c111 mercedes race car ran 22psi with no problem and broke many speed records I"v been told no more than 10psi with out an inter cooler though
Hardly without problems. They had many head issues. Stock psi is 11.6. On a t3 anything more than 15psi and its just a heat pump. >20psi with stock valve spring and the valves will lift.
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
(07-07-2009, 07:36 PM)willbhere4u the c111 mercedes race car ran 22psi with no problem and broke many speed records I"v been told no more than 10psi with out an inter cooler though
Hardly without problems. They had many head issues. Stock psi is 11.6. On a t3 anything more than 15psi and its just a heat pump. >20psi with stock valve spring and the valves will lift.
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
07-07-2009, 10:13 PM
#28
(07-07-2009, 07:43 PM)Motorhead What is the most boost a 617 has run?
20s easily. I found my WG hose had rotted off in the 3 months I was withou a boost gauge.
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
07-07-2009, 10:56 PM
#29
This post was last modified: 07-07-2009, 10:59 PM by willbhere4u.
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
07-07-2009, 10:56 PM #29does anyone make performance after market valve springs for a 617 turbo??? Or would springs from some other application give any improvement over the stock valve springs?
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
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