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Ever Seen This? Broken Pre Chamber...

Ever Seen This? Broken Pre Chamber...

 
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Captain America
Boostin' & Roostin'

2,221
09-23-2013, 12:54 AM #1
In light of the Prechamber Mod "Flame" Front thread, http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/thread-2169.html , I finally gathered the tools and pulled all the pre-chambers out of the 1985 head that I have. All came out easily and I had removed the glow plugs just prior. I was super stoked to see that the '85 had the "Up rated" prechambers with the larger "k" and "L" holes

   

I got sad though when I pulled #5 chamber and saw it was broken...

   

   

Has anyone ever seen this?

Guess I'm back to pulling my current chambers and reaming them, But looks like a lot more reaming is to be done to the up rated chambers anyway!


1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Captain America
09-23-2013, 12:54 AM #1

In light of the Prechamber Mod "Flame" Front thread, http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/thread-2169.html , I finally gathered the tools and pulled all the pre-chambers out of the 1985 head that I have. All came out easily and I had removed the glow plugs just prior. I was super stoked to see that the '85 had the "Up rated" prechambers with the larger "k" and "L" holes

   

I got sad though when I pulled #5 chamber and saw it was broken...

   

   

Has anyone ever seen this?

Guess I'm back to pulling my current chambers and reaming them, But looks like a lot more reaming is to be done to the up rated chambers anyway!



1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

09-23-2013, 06:29 AM #2
Yes. Common issue... Makes a lovely noise Wink In worse cases the "swirl pin" (don't know the proper english term) cracks open the pre-chamber and creates serious damage to the engine...

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'88 300CD Turbo Coupé - OM603
DiseaselWeasel
09-23-2013, 06:29 AM #2

Yes. Common issue... Makes a lovely noise Wink In worse cases the "swirl pin" (don't know the proper english term) cracks open the pre-chamber and creates serious damage to the engine...


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'88 300CD Turbo Coupé - OM603

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
09-25-2013, 08:33 AM #3
Better than this (thanks to autolite):

[Image: prechamber1.jpg] [Image: prechamber2.jpg] [Image: prechamber3.jpg]

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
09-25-2013, 08:33 AM #3

Better than this (thanks to autolite):

[Image: prechamber1.jpg] [Image: prechamber2.jpg] [Image: prechamber3.jpg]


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

Captain America
Boostin' & Roostin'

2,221
09-25-2013, 09:56 AM #4
Dunno if you recalled the glow plugs I pulled from my first motor winmutt, but the ends were all gone and I was scared of things looking like those


1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Captain America
09-25-2013, 09:56 AM #4

Dunno if you recalled the glow plugs I pulled from my first motor winmutt, but the ends were all gone and I was scared of things looking like those



1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

carlitosgy6
Ranger Turbodiesel

144
12-20-2013, 07:32 PM #5
(09-25-2013, 08:33 AM)winmutt Better than this (thanks to autolite):

[Image: prechamber1.jpg] [Image: prechamber2.jpg] [Image: prechamber3.jpg]

please explain how glow plugs caused that,thanks in advance
carlitosgy6
12-20-2013, 07:32 PM #5

(09-25-2013, 08:33 AM)winmutt Better than this (thanks to autolite):

[Image: prechamber1.jpg] [Image: prechamber2.jpg] [Image: prechamber3.jpg]

please explain how glow plugs caused that,thanks in advance

Austincarnut
Holset

298
12-21-2013, 09:47 AM #6
I've seen it, it killed 2 cyl on an engine I had. The turbo was junk also, engine still ran fine...



(09-23-2013, 12:54 AM)Captain America In light of the Prechamber Mod "Flame" Front thread, http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/thread-2169.html , I finally gathered the tools and pulled all the pre-chambers out of the 1985 head that I have. All came out easily and I had removed the glow plugs just prior. I was super stoked to see that the '85 had the "Up rated" prechambers with the larger "k" and "L" holes



I got sad though when I pulled #5 chamber and saw it was broken...





Has anyone ever seen this?

Guess I'm back to pulling my current chambers and reaming them, But looks like a lot more reaming is to be done to the up rated chambers anyway!
Austincarnut
12-21-2013, 09:47 AM #6

I've seen it, it killed 2 cyl on an engine I had. The turbo was junk also, engine still ran fine...



(09-23-2013, 12:54 AM)Captain America In light of the Prechamber Mod "Flame" Front thread, http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/thread-2169.html , I finally gathered the tools and pulled all the pre-chambers out of the 1985 head that I have. All came out easily and I had removed the glow plugs just prior. I was super stoked to see that the '85 had the "Up rated" prechambers with the larger "k" and "L" holes



I got sad though when I pulled #5 chamber and saw it was broken...





Has anyone ever seen this?

Guess I'm back to pulling my current chambers and reaming them, But looks like a lot more reaming is to be done to the up rated chambers anyway!

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
12-21-2013, 03:54 PM #7
(12-20-2013, 07:32 PM)carlitosgy6
(09-25-2013, 08:33 AM)winmutt Better than this (thanks to autolite):

[Image: prechamber1.jpg] [Image: prechamber2.jpg] [Image: prechamber3.jpg]

please explain how glow plugs caused that,thanks in advance

Tips break off and the injection repeeatedly slams the tip against the end of the chmaber ateast 10x per second

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
12-21-2013, 03:54 PM #7

(12-20-2013, 07:32 PM)carlitosgy6
(09-25-2013, 08:33 AM)winmutt Better than this (thanks to autolite):

[Image: prechamber1.jpg] [Image: prechamber2.jpg] [Image: prechamber3.jpg]

please explain how glow plugs caused that,thanks in advance

Tips break off and the injection repeeatedly slams the tip against the end of the chmaber ateast 10x per second


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

carlitosgy6
Ranger Turbodiesel

144
12-24-2013, 07:33 AM #8
Thanks for your info
carlitosgy6
12-24-2013, 07:33 AM #8

Thanks for your info

 
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