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09-07-2013, 12:07 AM #5
(09-04-2013, 11:49 AM)raysorenson Are those x-overs above the tank? FYI, you can fit 6.75" in the front doors without one of those pod things. I'll post up some pics here soon in case you can use some ideas.

Also, if you've got some grey plastic that's yellowing, SEM Color Coat in medium grey is a very good match. Lots of grey plastic was discolored in my '87.

yep, them 'er x-overs. I ordered a set of components for the front and I think they are indeed 6.75".

thanks for the tip on the color. I just bought some stuff(dont remember what brand) to change the blue color grilles I got for my grey wagon rear door handles (used to accept the 4" mid-ranges for my rear components). but it may even be that same color. I just picked the one that looked closest to what I remembered the color to look like.its just for the grilles anyway so it shouldnt matter as much.

(09-04-2013, 01:43 PM)tjts1 I like the 400e subframe. Not so sure about the output housing modification. I hope it holds.

yeah, its temporary...but if youve seen some of the stuff Ive used JB-weld on (think high pressure AND high torsional load), you wouldnt worry about it either... Ive seen it fail, but generally only when the prep wasnt done right or it wasnt allowed to cure properly.

(09-05-2013, 01:56 PM)garage What kind of mods are needed to make the 400E subframe work?
Its not just bolt in right??

bolts right in...BUT it does move the diff about an inch or so forward (185 and 210mm alike). You also must use a 210mm diff (1.3L case I think) with the diff cover that came with the subframe, at least if you wanna have all stock parts/mounts. I ended up making an adapter plate to attach the stock 185mm diff get me going until I pulled the late 300e one.

The parts I would use, were I to do it (among the other mods) again are:
-400/500E subframe/diff cover
-late 300E 2.65:1 diff with the input/flex disc already installed on it (i.e. just use the smaller diameter flex disc / giubo vs swap out for the larger stock 300D one)
-late 300e rear shaft section, should be just about perfect length to make up for the using the 400E subframe -- custom flex disc
-w126 560 sel front driveshaft section with revshift e46 flex disc / giubo
-w201 190D 5-speed, modified as above, or find a smaller flex disc front half d-shaft of the proper length (either 33" or 35", don't remember which, its in a thread I posted to RE: w201 5 speed swap into w124) and another custom flex disc
This post was last modified: 09-07-2013, 12:33 AM by SurfRodder.

W123 Mods: 4 speed ** manual climate control ** '85 Kalitucky intake ** manual windows & full tint ** Euro headlights retrofit w/bixenon projectors ** 4 brake light mod ** Vogtland 50mm drop front & Lesjofors S600 drop rear springs ** 16" rims ** late w126 brake spindles, rotors & calipers ** full suspension rehab ** Bilstein HDs ** AL129X alternator & 1/0 starter and charging cables ** 300GD clutch/flywheel ** AFCO 80103N radiator & Earl's 41610 oil cooler ** custom block-off plate, remote oil filter & t-stat ** MW IP w/ tomnik's 6.5mm 'Holly' elements **

S124 Mods: 400E Rear subframe ** SL600 Brakes ** Late 300E 210mm diff ** SLK230 6 speed ** 17" CLK rims ** Vented RF Fender ** Facelift Hood, Headlights, and Lower Cladding **

OBK# 62
SurfRodder
09-07-2013, 12:07 AM #5

(09-04-2013, 11:49 AM)raysorenson Are those x-overs above the tank? FYI, you can fit 6.75" in the front doors without one of those pod things. I'll post up some pics here soon in case you can use some ideas.

Also, if you've got some grey plastic that's yellowing, SEM Color Coat in medium grey is a very good match. Lots of grey plastic was discolored in my '87.

yep, them 'er x-overs. I ordered a set of components for the front and I think they are indeed 6.75".

thanks for the tip on the color. I just bought some stuff(dont remember what brand) to change the blue color grilles I got for my grey wagon rear door handles (used to accept the 4" mid-ranges for my rear components). but it may even be that same color. I just picked the one that looked closest to what I remembered the color to look like.its just for the grilles anyway so it shouldnt matter as much.

(09-04-2013, 01:43 PM)tjts1 I like the 400e subframe. Not so sure about the output housing modification. I hope it holds.

yeah, its temporary...but if youve seen some of the stuff Ive used JB-weld on (think high pressure AND high torsional load), you wouldnt worry about it either... Ive seen it fail, but generally only when the prep wasnt done right or it wasnt allowed to cure properly.

(09-05-2013, 01:56 PM)garage What kind of mods are needed to make the 400E subframe work?
Its not just bolt in right??

bolts right in...BUT it does move the diff about an inch or so forward (185 and 210mm alike). You also must use a 210mm diff (1.3L case I think) with the diff cover that came with the subframe, at least if you wanna have all stock parts/mounts. I ended up making an adapter plate to attach the stock 185mm diff get me going until I pulled the late 300e one.

The parts I would use, were I to do it (among the other mods) again are:
-400/500E subframe/diff cover
-late 300E 2.65:1 diff with the input/flex disc already installed on it (i.e. just use the smaller diameter flex disc / giubo vs swap out for the larger stock 300D one)
-late 300e rear shaft section, should be just about perfect length to make up for the using the 400E subframe -- custom flex disc
-w126 560 sel front driveshaft section with revshift e46 flex disc / giubo
-w201 190D 5-speed, modified as above, or find a smaller flex disc front half d-shaft of the proper length (either 33" or 35", don't remember which, its in a thread I posted to RE: w201 5 speed swap into w124) and another custom flex disc


W123 Mods: 4 speed ** manual climate control ** '85 Kalitucky intake ** manual windows & full tint ** Euro headlights retrofit w/bixenon projectors ** 4 brake light mod ** Vogtland 50mm drop front & Lesjofors S600 drop rear springs ** 16" rims ** late w126 brake spindles, rotors & calipers ** full suspension rehab ** Bilstein HDs ** AL129X alternator & 1/0 starter and charging cables ** 300GD clutch/flywheel ** AFCO 80103N radiator & Earl's 41610 oil cooler ** custom block-off plate, remote oil filter & t-stat ** MW IP w/ tomnik's 6.5mm 'Holly' elements **

S124 Mods: 400E Rear subframe ** SL600 Brakes ** Late 300E 210mm diff ** SLK230 6 speed ** 17" CLK rims ** Vented RF Fender ** Facelift Hood, Headlights, and Lower Cladding **

OBK# 62

 
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'nother '87 300D - by SurfRodder - 09-03-2013, 11:26 PM
RE: 'nother '87 300D - by raysorenson - 09-04-2013, 11:49 AM
RE: 'nother '87 300D - by SurfRodder - 09-07-2013, 12:07 AM
RE: 'nother '87 300D - by tjts1 - 09-04-2013, 01:43 PM
RE: 'nother '87 300D - by garage - 09-05-2013, 01:56 PM
RE: 'nother '87 300D - by garage - 09-08-2013, 10:07 PM
RE: 'nother '87 300D - by raysorenson - 09-09-2013, 10:39 AM
RE: 'nother '87 300D - by SurfRodder - 10-27-2013, 08:45 PM
RE: 'nother '87 300D - by SurfRodder - 12-11-2013, 08:28 PM
RE: 'nother '87 300D - by SurfRodder - 12-28-2013, 02:30 AM
RE: 'nother '87 300D - by raysorenson - 12-28-2013, 02:41 PM
RE: 'nother '87 300D - by SurfRodder - 12-29-2013, 12:16 AM
RE: 'nother '87 300D - by raysorenson - 12-29-2013, 11:29 AM
RE: 'nother '87 300D - by SurfRodder - 01-04-2015, 12:53 PM
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