Repair liner or not??
Repair liner or not??
Having the head off of the engine a month ago, it didn't look like the engine had removable liners?
Duncansport
08-05-2013, 02:44 PM #1So who knows what the deal is with the cylinder liners on 602.962 1991. EPC says they have them and there are not any oversize pistons available for this engine
Having the head off of the engine a month ago, it didn't look like the engine had removable liners?
Here is the EPC image for the liners
The Sleeves are cheap money, $29 per. The piston set also not to bad at $700.
Duncansport
08-06-2013, 06:42 AM #3Seems odd to me there are not any "repair" or oversize pistons for this.
Here is the EPC image for the liners
The Sleeves are cheap money, $29 per. The piston set also not to bad at $700.
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larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
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08-06-2013, 08:12 AM #4You can always order custom pistons. In other engines I hear about $100-$150 (gas turbo motors)
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617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
I believe that once they are replaced the the block will need to be decked and then the sleeves will need to be honed.
There is a special tool to hammer in & out the old and new sleeves
I have heard there is a trick that helps remove the liners with dry ice?
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
08-06-2013, 10:55 AM #5The sleeves are fit tightly in to the block then machined in the block to fit. they are in there from the factory.
I believe that once they are replaced the the block will need to be decked and then the sleeves will need to be honed.
There is a special tool to hammer in & out the old and new sleeves
I have heard there is a trick that helps remove the liners with dry ice?
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
the number for -0,2 mm height is 002 24 12.
the liners is for pressfit and can only be used for std. size pistons, and they are semi so you need to bore and hone to get finish size.
i think that KS. also make pistons but i dont have that catalog here
hope that helps.
well i dont know how you do it in the US but here you can get pistons 89,50 mm from Mahle std height number is 002 24 02
the number for -0,2 mm height is 002 24 12.
the liners is for pressfit and can only be used for std. size pistons, and they are semi so you need to bore and hone to get finish size.
i think that KS. also make pistons but i dont have that catalog here
hope that helps.
(08-06-2013, 03:03 PM)hansendk well i dont know how you do it in the US but here you can get pistons 89,50 mm from Mahle std height number is 002 24 02
the number for -0,2 mm height is 002 24 12.
the liners is for pressfit and can only be used for std. size pistons, and they are semi so you need to bore and hone to get finish size.
i think that KS. also make pistons but i dont have that catalog here
hope that helps.
Thanks! Yeah i understood the liners are only a rough fit and need to be honed for size. According to WIS later blocks were not fitted with linders and need to be bored out for fitment. The part number you list, is that with a 602 prefix?
Thanks you've been very helpful.
Duncansport
08-06-2013, 03:29 PM #7(08-06-2013, 03:03 PM)hansendk well i dont know how you do it in the US but here you can get pistons 89,50 mm from Mahle std height number is 002 24 02
the number for -0,2 mm height is 002 24 12.
the liners is for pressfit and can only be used for std. size pistons, and they are semi so you need to bore and hone to get finish size.
i think that KS. also make pistons but i dont have that catalog here
hope that helps.
Thanks! Yeah i understood the liners are only a rough fit and need to be honed for size. According to WIS later blocks were not fitted with linders and need to be bored out for fitment. The part number you list, is that with a 602 prefix?
Thanks you've been very helpful.
I think you call it 3,0 in the US
OE from Mercedes the pistons are Mahle, KS or Nural all german piston manufactores.
I put the Mahle number in because i know you can get them in the US. (i play with Subaru also)
I dont know what you mean with prefix the piston is used in OM 601 2,3,OM 602 2,9 and OM 662 2,9 the last one is what i have in my Ssangyong
I think you call it 3,0 in the US
OE from Mercedes the pistons are Mahle, KS or Nural all german piston manufactores.
I put the Mahle number in because i know you can get them in the US. (i play with Subaru also)
(08-07-2013, 02:43 AM)hansendk I dont know what you mean with prefix the piston is used in OM 601 2,3,OM 602 2,9 and OM 662 2,9 the last one is what i have in my Ssangyong
I think you call it 3,0 in the US
OE from Mercedes the pistons are Mahle, KS or Nural all german piston manufactores.
I put the Mahle number in because i know you can get them in the US. (i play with Subaru also)
Thanks again. I searched out the Mahle part number and found it on their website but i have yet to find anyone who can get it. Ill call some of my suppliers today to see where/how to get these things.
Duncansport
08-07-2013, 06:42 AM #9(08-07-2013, 02:43 AM)hansendk I dont know what you mean with prefix the piston is used in OM 601 2,3,OM 602 2,9 and OM 662 2,9 the last one is what i have in my Ssangyong
I think you call it 3,0 in the US
OE from Mercedes the pistons are Mahle, KS or Nural all german piston manufactores.
I put the Mahle number in because i know you can get them in the US. (i play with Subaru also)
Thanks again. I searched out the Mahle part number and found it on their website but i have yet to find anyone who can get it. Ill call some of my suppliers today to see where/how to get these things.
Pull the sleeves out of the liquid nitrogen and they slide right in. Like butter
Also, the easiest way to get sleeves out is to make a perfect sized 1/2 thick washer on the lathe, and just shove them out in a decent sized press.
'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted
We put sleeves in using liquid nitrogen. Pour some out in a styrofoam container, set the sleeve under the nitrogen, and put work lights into the cylinders to warm them up.
Pull the sleeves out of the liquid nitrogen and they slide right in. Like butter
Also, the easiest way to get sleeves out is to make a perfect sized 1/2 thick washer on the lathe, and just shove them out in a decent sized press.
'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted
602s were available with & without liners, you can put liners in blocks that didn't originally have them, here there is only one place I know that sell the liners & they are around $100 each, the same liner is common to the 2.5 litre 602s, 605s, 3 litre 603s 606s
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