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W115 240d 3.0 + OM606

W115 240d 3.0 + OM606

 
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gaiex
K26-2

33
07-22-2013, 08:06 PM #1
Hello guys,

I've been a reader of your forum for some years now, and passed me the need of a supertubo diesel mercedes, and in fact was the main reason that I bought the 1975 w115 240d 3.0!
I first started to look for a W123 to put an OM606 motor in, but than I realize that spend money on an old car, it's better to spend on one that at least is a classic, and nothing more than an old /8 Shy

I have the car for one year now, but works only started on November 2012 and add to do a lot of body work because of the rust, and work was ON and OFF for several months till now that is almost ready for paint!

Some time ago I found this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAOUoowU-vk and I had to test an OM606 + 722.6 on it Smile

Summarizing, the engine and gear box fits, but need to do some engine mounts (or find some OEM that fit) and some transmission tunnel stretching.
At this phase only one front chassis strut was cut to get the engine as far to the firewall as needed, but also some gearbox mount and transmission shaft will be needed to fabricate for now.

Any idea what to use for engine mounts?

Here are some pictures:
http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/gaiex/library/
This post was last modified: 07-22-2013, 08:08 PM by gaiex.
gaiex
07-22-2013, 08:06 PM #1

Hello guys,

I've been a reader of your forum for some years now, and passed me the need of a supertubo diesel mercedes, and in fact was the main reason that I bought the 1975 w115 240d 3.0!
I first started to look for a W123 to put an OM606 motor in, but than I realize that spend money on an old car, it's better to spend on one that at least is a classic, and nothing more than an old /8 Shy

I have the car for one year now, but works only started on November 2012 and add to do a lot of body work because of the rust, and work was ON and OFF for several months till now that is almost ready for paint!

Some time ago I found this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAOUoowU-vk and I had to test an OM606 + 722.6 on it Smile

Summarizing, the engine and gear box fits, but need to do some engine mounts (or find some OEM that fit) and some transmission tunnel stretching.
At this phase only one front chassis strut was cut to get the engine as far to the firewall as needed, but also some gearbox mount and transmission shaft will be needed to fabricate for now.

Any idea what to use for engine mounts?

Here are some pictures:
http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/gaiex/library/

HaavardPYA
GT2559V

189
07-23-2013, 04:32 PM #2
Amazing project! Really like the /8 bodySmile what rear end are you using?
HaavardPYA
07-23-2013, 04:32 PM #2

Amazing project! Really like the /8 bodySmile what rear end are you using?

gaiex
K26-2

33
07-23-2013, 07:39 PM #3
(07-23-2013, 04:32 PM)HaavardPYA Amazing project! Really like the /8 bodySmile what rear end are you using?

I'm studing the parts to install, maybe w210 and w124 parts, but a bit soon for now since I have to install all the stock parts after paint, to get the car to road inspection and classic certification. After that is OM606 time! Big Grin
gaiex
07-23-2013, 07:39 PM #3

(07-23-2013, 04:32 PM)HaavardPYA Amazing project! Really like the /8 bodySmile what rear end are you using?

I'm studing the parts to install, maybe w210 and w124 parts, but a bit soon for now since I have to install all the stock parts after paint, to get the car to road inspection and classic certification. After that is OM606 time! Big Grin

sassparilla_kid
diesel > all other fuels

1,618
07-23-2013, 10:48 PM #4
Sounds like an awesome project!!

-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
sassparilla_kid
07-23-2013, 10:48 PM #4

Sounds like an awesome project!!


-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!

HaavardPYA
GT2559V

189
07-24-2013, 05:15 AM #5
If your going to build all custom i would recomend bmw parts. E32 7series, e34 m5 or e28 535 diff. Strong as hell if you reinforce the diffmounting.
HaavardPYA
07-24-2013, 05:15 AM #5

If your going to build all custom i would recomend bmw parts. E32 7series, e34 m5 or e28 535 diff. Strong as hell if you reinforce the diffmounting.

gaiex
K26-2

33
11-22-2014, 05:28 PM #6
Any info about this car?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgJNpPRyapo

and this one is also interesting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ml_AZB_-Cw8
gaiex
11-22-2014, 05:28 PM #6

Any info about this car?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgJNpPRyapo

and this one is also interesting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ml_AZB_-Cw8

Tito
Holset

354
11-23-2014, 11:51 AM #7
Well this is coincidence... I bought a w114 yesterday to mate with the om606 I'm building.

So, care to share some info if you have any? Big Grin

Edit: just looking through your gallery, and it seems the oilsump is clearing the crossbar right? And what did you use as engine mounts?
This post was last modified: 11-23-2014, 12:00 PM by Tito.
Tito
11-23-2014, 11:51 AM #7

Well this is coincidence... I bought a w114 yesterday to mate with the om606 I'm building.

So, care to share some info if you have any? Big Grin

Edit: just looking through your gallery, and it seems the oilsump is clearing the crossbar right? And what did you use as engine mounts?

gaiex
K26-2

33
11-24-2014, 06:18 AM #8
(11-23-2014, 11:51 AM)Tito Well this is coincidence... I bought a w114 yesterday to mate with the om606 I'm building.

So, care to share some info if you have any? Big Grin

Edit: just looking through your gallery, and it seems the oilsump is clearing the crossbar right? And what did you use as engine mounts?

Hi,

I had taken the pictures for more than an year, but I had the stock (supposed to be) engine mounts from the W210 OM606 to check the alignment with an crane lifting the engine, but I did not installed the engine in place, was just to test the fitment.
I have the OM617 installed to conclude the restoration and certificate the car as a classic, only after that I will go with the OM606 installation, and that's why I'm still looking for information on the installation.

For now I know the following that it's needed:

- needs radiator electric fans
- relocate battery, maybe in the trunk
- remove the cross arm struts bar
- need to fabricate engine mounts ??
- transmission tunnel need to bee widened ??
- transmission not strong enough ??

PS: I have an W210 320cdi 722.6 auto gear box to couple with the engine and I already widened a bit the transmission tunnel.
gaiex
11-24-2014, 06:18 AM #8

(11-23-2014, 11:51 AM)Tito Well this is coincidence... I bought a w114 yesterday to mate with the om606 I'm building.

So, care to share some info if you have any? Big Grin

Edit: just looking through your gallery, and it seems the oilsump is clearing the crossbar right? And what did you use as engine mounts?

Hi,

I had taken the pictures for more than an year, but I had the stock (supposed to be) engine mounts from the W210 OM606 to check the alignment with an crane lifting the engine, but I did not installed the engine in place, was just to test the fitment.
I have the OM617 installed to conclude the restoration and certificate the car as a classic, only after that I will go with the OM606 installation, and that's why I'm still looking for information on the installation.

For now I know the following that it's needed:

- needs radiator electric fans
- relocate battery, maybe in the trunk
- remove the cross arm struts bar
- need to fabricate engine mounts ??
- transmission tunnel need to bee widened ??
- transmission not strong enough ??

PS: I have an W210 320cdi 722.6 auto gear box to couple with the engine and I already widened a bit the transmission tunnel.

Tito
Holset

354
11-25-2014, 03:48 PM #9
Ok. Doesn't neem like big problems to me. Just curious about the engine mounts.

I'll be using the 717.413 gearbox. It's a little shorter than the automatic gearbox. Hope I don't need to widen the tunnel...
Tito
11-25-2014, 03:48 PM #9

Ok. Doesn't neem like big problems to me. Just curious about the engine mounts.

I'll be using the 717.413 gearbox. It's a little shorter than the automatic gearbox. Hope I don't need to widen the tunnel...

Tito
Holset

354
11-27-2014, 02:35 PM #10
Took out the tape measure and did some measuring.... The intercooler is going to be a huuuge problem Sad
Maybe a W/A intercooler.....
Tito
11-27-2014, 02:35 PM #10

Took out the tape measure and did some measuring.... The intercooler is going to be a huuuge problem Sad
Maybe a W/A intercooler.....

gaiex
K26-2

33
11-27-2014, 06:16 PM #11
(11-27-2014, 02:35 PM)Tito Took out the tape measure and did some measuring.... The intercooler is going to be a huuuge problem Sad
Maybe a W/A intercooler.....

It have some space behind the hood grill but maybe not to big but I've saw some W123 with some IC there and the space is almost the same as in the W115! Wink
gaiex
11-27-2014, 06:16 PM #11

(11-27-2014, 02:35 PM)Tito Took out the tape measure and did some measuring.... The intercooler is going to be a huuuge problem Sad
Maybe a W/A intercooler.....

It have some space behind the hood grill but maybe not to big but I've saw some W123 with some IC there and the space is almost the same as in the W115! Wink

 
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