Turbo location and orientation
Turbo location and orientation
I am puting a 605 TD in my car but I have no space down the side of the engine. I do have loads of space at the front of the engine though so what would the likely affect be if I extend the manifold out to the front and mount the turbo there?
Next question is does a turbo have to be mounted with the oil feed at the top and drain out the bottom? I know its the norm and it makes sense but its all under pressure so I cant really see a problem if it was turned.
Quick pick so you can see how much room I have at the front:
![[Image: 20130615_164459.jpg]](https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-uIl6s7BfYY0/UcOMkpJuiaI/AAAAAAAADOI/aAJUFbZydtg/w927-h695-no/20130615_164459.jpg)
Couple of easy questions for those in the know.
I am puting a 605 TD in my car but I have no space down the side of the engine. I do have loads of space at the front of the engine though so what would the likely affect be if I extend the manifold out to the front and mount the turbo there?
Next question is does a turbo have to be mounted with the oil feed at the top and drain out the bottom? I know its the norm and it makes sense but its all under pressure so I cant really see a problem if it was turned.
Quick pick so you can see how much room I have at the front:
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larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
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06-20-2013, 08:25 PM #2Out front is fine, that's how the V8 domestics do it. The turbo shaft MUST be horizontal ±15°, and the drain has to be on the bottom.
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larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
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06-21-2013, 09:54 AM #3What kind of car is that it looks like fiberglass? or at least really smoothed out body work and its RHD? I'm guessing British TRV? lotus? Austin?
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
Its a fiberglass body shell. The car is a Reliant Scimitar, probably completely unknown in the states but used to be fairly common in the UK and Europe.
This is the car when I first got it
![[Image: MVC-298F.JPG]](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-hdHDkxPILrM/UcTTDeDONwI/AAAAAAAADSQ/QDQVlgyAYtQ/w927-h695-no/MVC-298F.JPG)
Bit of a state but its getting there now. I need to do a build thread soon.
Thanks, I couldn't understand why it mattered for the oil feed/return so did some further reading and I get it now.
Its a fiberglass body shell. The car is a Reliant Scimitar, probably completely unknown in the states but used to be fairly common in the UK and Europe.
This is the car when I first got it
Bit of a state but its getting there now. I need to do a build thread soon.
Glad you got your pump sorted out. That could have been expensive if you hadn't found out about the different pressure pumps.
This car was never avaliable with a hydraulic rack so the pump isn't required. Would have been a right mare getting a rack to fit. Doesn't mean it doesn't have power steering though ;-) I have put an electric power assist steering column in.
Glad you got your pump sorted out. That could have been expensive if you hadn't found out about the different pressure pumps.
(06-23-2013, 04:46 PM)Mark_M This car was never avaliable with a hydraulic rack so the pump isn't required. Would have been a right mare getting a rack to fit. Doesn't mean it doesn't have power steering though ;-) I have put an electric power assist steering column in.nice conversion,
Glad you got your pump sorted out. That could have been expensive if you hadn't found out about the different pressure pumps.
are you going to use a corsa electric steering column?
here is a pic of a honda s2000 that has the turbo slightly in front.
looks like a bit of work.
![[Image: honda-s2000-prostreet-turbo-kit-1.jpg]](http://www.full-race.com/store/images/full/honda-s2000-prostreet-turbo-kit-1.jpg)
(06-23-2013, 04:46 PM)Mark_M This car was never avaliable with a hydraulic rack so the pump isn't required. Would have been a right mare getting a rack to fit. Doesn't mean it doesn't have power steering though ;-) I have put an electric power assist steering column in.nice conversion,
Glad you got your pump sorted out. That could have been expensive if you hadn't found out about the different pressure pumps.
are you going to use a corsa electric steering column?
here is a pic of a honda s2000 that has the turbo slightly in front.
looks like a bit of work.
![[Image: MMRcoyote202.jpg]](http://cdn.speednik.com/files/2012/08/MMRcoyote202.jpg)
![[Image: dbc039-1.jpg]](http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a342/jmstekguy/dbc039-1.jpg)
http://www.theturboforums.com/threads/31...mph!/page4
Ugh those pics make me want a 4.6 in my DD! Would need a gutted front end to fit that tall thing under the hood though.
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617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
06-24-2013, 08:42 AM #10The coyote guys run 'em like this:
http://www.theturboforums.com/threads/31...mph!/page4
Ugh those pics make me want a 4.6 in my DD! Would need a gutted front end to fit that tall thing under the hood though.
Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
(06-23-2013, 05:59 PM)Mark_M its already fitted and tested, yes its a corsa column and a standalone controller so I can vary the amount of assist it gives.
yea, they are good enough job, i've been running one in the manta for years.
Are you going to start the manifold soon?
Will be starting the manifold in the next couple of weeks but its nothing to get excited about this time round. All I am doing at the moment is linking the original manifold round to the front to hook up to the new turbo location. I know this isn't the best solution but its easy and I just want to use the original turbo at the moment. See how the car handles that lot and if it can take it then I will go full on with a custom manifold and big turbo. There is history here of going all in with a V8, spending weeks making 4-2-1 manifolds only to change direction. So its keep it simple, get it going and take it from there.
Below is what was supposed to be in the engine bay
![[Image: P1000355.JPG]](https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-s6p720FzyhQ/T_s0qlBCjyI/AAAAAAAABtQ/vhaAZ6Or26o/w521-h695-no/P1000355.JPG)
At the price of fuel these days it was either change direction or scrap everything!
Cheers simply=better, its the second pic that I was planning on going with. As luck would have it running like that makes it much easier for me to run the twin exhausts that the car should have.
Will be starting the manifold in the next couple of weeks but its nothing to get excited about this time round. All I am doing at the moment is linking the original manifold round to the front to hook up to the new turbo location. I know this isn't the best solution but its easy and I just want to use the original turbo at the moment. See how the car handles that lot and if it can take it then I will go full on with a custom manifold and big turbo. There is history here of going all in with a V8, spending weeks making 4-2-1 manifolds only to change direction. So its keep it simple, get it going and take it from there.
Below is what was supposed to be in the engine bay
At the price of fuel these days it was either change direction or scrap everything!
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