bmw 530d 5speed gearbox to om606
bmw 530d 5speed gearbox to om606
04-25-2013, 05:01 PM
#1
Cheers Dave
diesel dave
04-25-2013, 05:01 PM #1Hi I'm trying to get my BMW box mated up to the 606, have my clutch setup almost sorted,. Using a sprung type (not diaphrag) clutch from thwaites dump truck with uprated springs and custom twin plate setup. I've the box stripped and plan is to lengthen the spiggot shaft then make adaptor plate to mate gearbox to engine has anyone tryed this setup??
Cheers Dave
04-26-2013, 11:31 AM
#2
(04-25-2013, 05:01 PM)diesel dave Hi I'm trying to get my BMW box mated up to the 606, have my clutch setup almost sorted,. Using a sprung type (not diaphrag) clutch from thwaites dump truck with uprated springs and custom twin plate setup. I've the box stripped and plan is to lengthen the spiggot shaft then make adaptor plate to mate gearbox to engine has anyone tryed this setup??
Cheers Dave
this is how i made:
http://www.per4m.lt/forum/download/file.php?id=3370
http://www.per4m.lt/forum/download/file.php?id=3369
(04-25-2013, 05:01 PM)diesel dave Hi I'm trying to get my BMW box mated up to the 606, have my clutch setup almost sorted,. Using a sprung type (not diaphrag) clutch from thwaites dump truck with uprated springs and custom twin plate setup. I've the box stripped and plan is to lengthen the spiggot shaft then make adaptor plate to mate gearbox to engine has anyone tryed this setup??
Cheers Dave
this is how i made:
http://www.per4m.lt/forum/download/file.php?id=3370
http://www.per4m.lt/forum/download/file.php?id=3369
04-30-2013, 04:33 AM
#3
(04-26-2013, 11:31 AM)swecias(04-25-2013, 05:01 PM)diesel dave Hi I'm trying to get my BMW box mated up to the 606, have my clutch setup almost sorted,. Using a sprung type (not diaphrag) clutch from thwaites dump truck with uprated springs and custom twin plate setup. I've the box stripped and plan is to lengthen the spiggot shaft then make adaptor plate to mate gearbox to engine has anyone tryed this setup??
Cheers Dave
this is how i made:
http://www.per4m.lt/forum/download/file.php?id=3370
http://www.per4m.lt/forum/download/file.php?id=3369
Hi Dave,
Assuming it is a GS5 you have bought (I've just bought the later 6 speed GS6-53DZ to do the same). What flywheel are you using?
I didn't think the 606 solid flywheel and starter ring would fit inside of the bellhousing on the GS5?
Now that I have bought it, I have discovered that the GS6 actually has the same belhousing ID (around 325mm) as the OM606 (see pics) and I have been wondering about a custom flywheel and adapter plate for that.. I have do do some measuring.
Otherwise, my approach is to be the same as swecias I think - I will design and cut an intermediary plate to weld.
One thing you might be able to help me with - I am missing the pilot bearing shaft (the short shaft that goes into the end of the spline'd input shaft and pilot bearing in flywheel).
I can't seem to get one from MB (they supply no gearbox spares at all unbelievably) and I guess I will have to fabricate; I wondered if you could measure the one you have (length/ diameter) and take a photo for me if its anything other than a straight shaft?
Photos from my project are here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/benstoneham...11/detail/
"Moderation is a fatal thing. Nothing succeeds like excess." Oscar Wilde
(04-26-2013, 11:31 AM)swecias(04-25-2013, 05:01 PM)diesel dave Hi I'm trying to get my BMW box mated up to the 606, have my clutch setup almost sorted,. Using a sprung type (not diaphrag) clutch from thwaites dump truck with uprated springs and custom twin plate setup. I've the box stripped and plan is to lengthen the spiggot shaft then make adaptor plate to mate gearbox to engine has anyone tryed this setup??
Cheers Dave
this is how i made:
http://www.per4m.lt/forum/download/file.php?id=3370
http://www.per4m.lt/forum/download/file.php?id=3369
Hi Dave,
Assuming it is a GS5 you have bought (I've just bought the later 6 speed GS6-53DZ to do the same). What flywheel are you using?
I didn't think the 606 solid flywheel and starter ring would fit inside of the bellhousing on the GS5?
Now that I have bought it, I have discovered that the GS6 actually has the same belhousing ID (around 325mm) as the OM606 (see pics) and I have been wondering about a custom flywheel and adapter plate for that.. I have do do some measuring.
Otherwise, my approach is to be the same as swecias I think - I will design and cut an intermediary plate to weld.
One thing you might be able to help me with - I am missing the pilot bearing shaft (the short shaft that goes into the end of the spline'd input shaft and pilot bearing in flywheel).
I can't seem to get one from MB (they supply no gearbox spares at all unbelievably) and I guess I will have to fabricate; I wondered if you could measure the one you have (length/ diameter) and take a photo for me if its anything other than a straight shaft?
Photos from my project are here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/benstoneham...11/detail/
"Moderation is a fatal thing. Nothing succeeds like excess." Oscar Wilde
05-01-2013, 02:52 AM
#4
http://www.per4m.lt/forum/download/file.php?id=3329
http://www.per4m.lt/forum/download/file.php?id=3328
http://www.per4m.lt/forum/download/file.php?id=3327
http://www.per4m.lt/forum/download/file.php?id=3332
http://www.per4m.lt/forum/download/file.php?id=3330
http://www.per4m.lt/forum/download/file.php?id=3337
I Used mb om604 flywheel, duoble plate bmw presure spring, and bmw ceramic disk
http://www.per4m.lt/forum/download/file.php?id=3329
http://www.per4m.lt/forum/download/file.php?id=3328
http://www.per4m.lt/forum/download/file.php?id=3327
http://www.per4m.lt/forum/download/file.php?id=3332
http://www.per4m.lt/forum/download/file.php?id=3330
http://www.per4m.lt/forum/download/file.php?id=3337
05-01-2013, 04:48 PM
#7
I have been measuring again tonight though.. ID of both 606 and GS6-52DZ gearbox are 32.5mm so MB flywheel and starter ring fit comfortably inside.. I am thinking that a adapter plate is a real possibility, however I am unsure what the effect of say +25mm depth of plate will be on distances for clutch plate to flywheel and pilot bearing shaft. I guess possibly flywheel can be set further out on crankshaft to compensate.. I must investigate this.
"Moderation is a fatal thing. Nothing succeeds like excess." Oscar Wilde
ah OK.. thinking about it my flywheel is from SM conversion from a Sprinter.. I had forgotten there was none for 606.
I have been measuring again tonight though.. ID of both 606 and GS6-52DZ gearbox are 32.5mm so MB flywheel and starter ring fit comfortably inside.. I am thinking that a adapter plate is a real possibility, however I am unsure what the effect of say +25mm depth of plate will be on distances for clutch plate to flywheel and pilot bearing shaft. I guess possibly flywheel can be set further out on crankshaft to compensate.. I must investigate this.
"Moderation is a fatal thing. Nothing succeeds like excess." Oscar Wilde
10-06-2013, 05:49 AM
#8
(04-30-2013, 04:33 AM)fcp One thing you might be able to help me with - I am missing the pilot bearing shaft (the short shaft that goes into the end of the spline'd input shaft and pilot bearing in flywheel).
I can't seem to get one from MB (they supply no gearbox spares at all unbelievably) and I guess I will have to fabricate; I wondered if you could measure the one you have (length/ diameter) and take a photo for me if its anything other than a straight shaft?
you are talking about the axle that goes from gearbox in throu pressure plate clutch and centers in the flywheel
have that part loose from a scraped 717430, single-mass flywheel gearbox, if anyone need measurments i can get those.
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daily driver
w115 240d 72hp 3.07 rearend
w123 om602 turbo 200whp 7.5mm pump fivespeed 3.07 rearend
+ a few more.
mbturbo.com
swampmonkey
10-06-2013, 05:49 AM #8(04-30-2013, 04:33 AM)fcp One thing you might be able to help me with - I am missing the pilot bearing shaft (the short shaft that goes into the end of the spline'd input shaft and pilot bearing in flywheel).
I can't seem to get one from MB (they supply no gearbox spares at all unbelievably) and I guess I will have to fabricate; I wondered if you could measure the one you have (length/ diameter) and take a photo for me if its anything other than a straight shaft?
you are talking about the axle that goes from gearbox in throu pressure plate clutch and centers in the flywheel
have that part loose from a scraped 717430, single-mass flywheel gearbox, if anyone need measurments i can get those.
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daily driver
w115 240d 72hp 3.07 rearend
w123 om602 turbo 200whp 7.5mm pump fivespeed 3.07 rearend
+ a few more.
mbturbo.com
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