STD Tuning Engine BOW

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ravenxm
TA 0301

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04-17-2013, 11:01 AM #1
hi people
i"m came from petrol world of tuning and its hard 4 me not to hear bow on my om605 engine
any ideas how can it work similar as in petrol engines>???
ravenxm
04-17-2013, 11:01 AM #1

hi people
i"m came from petrol world of tuning and its hard 4 me not to hear bow on my om605 engine
any ideas how can it work similar as in petrol engines>???

Mark_M
GT2559V

206
04-17-2013, 11:19 AM #2
dumb question time but what's BOW
Mark_M
04-17-2013, 11:19 AM #2

dumb question time but what's BOW

willbhere4u
Six in a row make her go!

2,507
04-17-2013, 02:08 PM #3
blow off valve?

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
04-17-2013, 02:08 PM #3

blow off valve?


1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

Mark_M
GT2559V

206
04-17-2013, 02:30 PM #4
I had thought of that right enough, best to check though.
Mark_M
04-17-2013, 02:30 PM #4

I had thought of that right enough, best to check though.

MFSuper90
Budget Builder

1,533
04-17-2013, 04:42 PM #5
Yeah, I think he means BOV.
They are necessary in gas engines to blow off boost after you let out on the throttle.
Diesels have no need to blow off boost.

'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         
MFSuper90
04-17-2013, 04:42 PM #5

Yeah, I think he means BOV.
They are necessary in gas engines to blow off boost after you let out on the throttle.
Diesels have no need to blow off boost.


'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         

mantahead
Holset

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04-18-2013, 05:38 AM #6
(04-17-2013, 04:42 PM)MFSuper90 Yeah, I think he means BOV.
They are necessary in gas engines to blow off boost after you let out on the throttle.
Diesels have no need to blow off boost.
yep, no butterfly on these diesels.
mantahead
04-18-2013, 05:38 AM #6

(04-17-2013, 04:42 PM)MFSuper90 Yeah, I think he means BOV.
They are necessary in gas engines to blow off boost after you let out on the throttle.
Diesels have no need to blow off boost.
yep, no butterfly on these diesels.

MFSuper90
Budget Builder

1,533
04-18-2013, 07:29 AM #7
Although some people do put them on diesels to keep their oversized chargers from surgeing when they let out on the throttle

'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         
MFSuper90
04-18-2013, 07:29 AM #7

Although some people do put them on diesels to keep their oversized chargers from surgeing when they let out on the throttle


'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         

Simpler=Better
PORTED HEAD

2,127
04-18-2013, 08:15 AM #8
An open-air wastegate would be just as fun to listen to though Smile

Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
04-18-2013, 08:15 AM #8

An open-air wastegate would be just as fun to listen to though Smile


Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?

willbhere4u
Six in a row make her go!

2,507
04-18-2013, 09:44 AM #9
It probably wouldn't do much performance wise.

But it would sound cool you would just need to find a throttle actuated vacuum switch. My old 1980 300sd had a vacuum switch that controlled vacuum to the transmission. IE full vacuum with no throttle and 0 vacuum at full throttle. On that car it was on top of the injection pump and hooked in to the linkage. It basically made vacuum act like it would on a gas engine with an open or closed throttle plate being that the diesel has a vacuum pump that is constant.
This post was last modified: 04-18-2013, 09:49 AM by willbhere4u.

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
04-18-2013, 09:44 AM #9

It probably wouldn't do much performance wise.

But it would sound cool you would just need to find a throttle actuated vacuum switch. My old 1980 300sd had a vacuum switch that controlled vacuum to the transmission. IE full vacuum with no throttle and 0 vacuum at full throttle. On that car it was on top of the injection pump and hooked in to the linkage. It basically made vacuum act like it would on a gas engine with an open or closed throttle plate being that the diesel has a vacuum pump that is constant.


1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

MFSuper90
Budget Builder

1,533
04-19-2013, 09:13 AM #10
(04-18-2013, 09:44 AM)willbhere4u It probably wouldn't do much performance wise.

But it would sound cool you would just need to find a throttle actuated vacuum switch. My old 1980 300sd had a vacuum switch that controlled vacuum to the transmission. IE full vacuum with no throttle and 0 vacuum at full throttle. On that car it was on top of the injection pump and hooked in to the linkage. It basically made vacuum act like it would on a gas engine with an open or closed throttle plate being that the diesel has a vacuum pump that is constant.

Wouldn't do anything performance wise besides save your turbo if your having severe bark or surge issues when you let out on the throttle.
They do sound cool though Big Grin

'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         
MFSuper90
04-19-2013, 09:13 AM #10

(04-18-2013, 09:44 AM)willbhere4u It probably wouldn't do much performance wise.

But it would sound cool you would just need to find a throttle actuated vacuum switch. My old 1980 300sd had a vacuum switch that controlled vacuum to the transmission. IE full vacuum with no throttle and 0 vacuum at full throttle. On that car it was on top of the injection pump and hooked in to the linkage. It basically made vacuum act like it would on a gas engine with an open or closed throttle plate being that the diesel has a vacuum pump that is constant.

Wouldn't do anything performance wise besides save your turbo if your having severe bark or surge issues when you let out on the throttle.
They do sound cool though Big Grin


'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         

willbhere4u
Six in a row make her go!

2,507
04-19-2013, 10:36 AM #11
It still should not be nearly as bad as a gas car since there is no throttle plate getting slammed closed. unless the engine can loose all of its rpm very very quickly. It should just gently slow down as the rpm lowers as it looses back pressure from the exhaust.

I could see it being very useful if you where using compound turbos or supercharger turbo set up

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
04-19-2013, 10:36 AM #11

It still should not be nearly as bad as a gas car since there is no throttle plate getting slammed closed. unless the engine can loose all of its rpm very very quickly. It should just gently slow down as the rpm lowers as it looses back pressure from the exhaust.

I could see it being very useful if you where using compound turbos or supercharger turbo set up


1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

ravenxm
TA 0301

50
04-20-2013, 12:01 PM #12
(04-19-2013, 10:36 AM)willbhere4u It still should not be nearly as bad as a gas car since there is no throttle plate getting slammed closed. unless the engine can loose all of its rpm very very quickly. It should just gently slow down as the rpm lowers as it looses back pressure from the exhaust.

I could see it being very useful if you where using compound turbos or supercharger turbo set up

IT'S USELESS cause youre loosing boost but the point to build it
on/off
cause i love the sound of BOV )))
ravenxm
04-20-2013, 12:01 PM #12

(04-19-2013, 10:36 AM)willbhere4u It still should not be nearly as bad as a gas car since there is no throttle plate getting slammed closed. unless the engine can loose all of its rpm very very quickly. It should just gently slow down as the rpm lowers as it looses back pressure from the exhaust.

I could see it being very useful if you where using compound turbos or supercharger turbo set up

IT'S USELESS cause youre loosing boost but the point to build it
on/off
cause i love the sound of BOV )))

MFSuper90
Budget Builder

1,533
04-21-2013, 08:53 AM #13
My buddies 5.9 cummins needs a BOV. His 66mm charger surges like CRAZY when he lets off the throttle. Slow or fast.

'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         
MFSuper90
04-21-2013, 08:53 AM #13

My buddies 5.9 cummins needs a BOV. His 66mm charger surges like CRAZY when he lets off the throttle. Slow or fast.


'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         

 
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