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Benjamin's W201 OM602 STD Project Car

Benjamin's W201 OM602 STD Project Car

 
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Benjamin
STD Beginner

23
04-09-2013, 04:43 PM #1
At first hello to all,

I'm happy to be a member on STD.

I'm Benjamin from Croatia, and I'm working about 3 years on my car.
I would like to introduce my project car that I have rebuild completely from ground off.
To hold me short. Last year I completely rebuild the car from ground off. Inside and outside. Inside it got a black leather 16V interior. And outside you can see.

[Image: zee0l6mt6yb7279cfr.jpg]
[Image: mte4ozdsuxvfzrh0c24e.jpg]

Now I working on a new engine. I have buy a donor car with a 2.5 Turbo Diesel engine.

The engine is now fully rebuildet from ground off. I also modified the pump with 6mm elements from a OM 605 pump. Her in Croatia it's difficult to get bigger elements. STD are not known here. Happily I have good connections I work before in a Mercedes-Benz workshop and I have a friend who repairs Pumps. So we modified the pump with help of Dieselmeken AB Thanks a lot on this place.

The set up is following:
-OM 602 Turbo engine fully rebuilded
-Pump modified with OM605 6mm elements at 75ccm of fuel.
-an IC would be installed to cool air down
-Dog leg 16V 5 speed gearbox
-2.65 diff from the 2.5 TD automatic gearbox
-Flywheel and clutch at first my OEM from the 2.0D it should be OK
-Turbo at the moment OEM one with increased boost to 1.5 bar

My targets:
Daily driver car with around 200-220hp max.
With the OEM turbo 150hp still the engine gona get a few kilometer worked.

Open questions:
-What turbo to use - target 200-220hp? Garret turbos would be easier to get her in Croatia. T3 or T4 or something different...? I have find out that the Holset he221w would be a good choice is that true?
-Making a exhaust manifold - No problem
-Maybe increase fuel ?


Yesterday we have start the car for the first time, her is a short video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HJzxWgf218

Thank you all in front.

I hope I will find some useful information's here to go further with my project.
This post was last modified: 04-09-2013, 05:09 PM by Benjamin.
Benjamin
04-09-2013, 04:43 PM #1

At first hello to all,

I'm happy to be a member on STD.

I'm Benjamin from Croatia, and I'm working about 3 years on my car.
I would like to introduce my project car that I have rebuild completely from ground off.
To hold me short. Last year I completely rebuild the car from ground off. Inside and outside. Inside it got a black leather 16V interior. And outside you can see.

[Image: zee0l6mt6yb7279cfr.jpg]
[Image: mte4ozdsuxvfzrh0c24e.jpg]

Now I working on a new engine. I have buy a donor car with a 2.5 Turbo Diesel engine.

The engine is now fully rebuildet from ground off. I also modified the pump with 6mm elements from a OM 605 pump. Her in Croatia it's difficult to get bigger elements. STD are not known here. Happily I have good connections I work before in a Mercedes-Benz workshop and I have a friend who repairs Pumps. So we modified the pump with help of Dieselmeken AB Thanks a lot on this place.

The set up is following:
-OM 602 Turbo engine fully rebuilded
-Pump modified with OM605 6mm elements at 75ccm of fuel.
-an IC would be installed to cool air down
-Dog leg 16V 5 speed gearbox
-2.65 diff from the 2.5 TD automatic gearbox
-Flywheel and clutch at first my OEM from the 2.0D it should be OK
-Turbo at the moment OEM one with increased boost to 1.5 bar

My targets:
Daily driver car with around 200-220hp max.
With the OEM turbo 150hp still the engine gona get a few kilometer worked.

Open questions:
-What turbo to use - target 200-220hp? Garret turbos would be easier to get her in Croatia. T3 or T4 or something different...? I have find out that the Holset he221w would be a good choice is that true?
-Making a exhaust manifold - No problem
-Maybe increase fuel ?


Yesterday we have start the car for the first time, her is a short video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HJzxWgf218

Thank you all in front.

I hope I will find some useful information's here to go further with my project.

George3soccer
Holset

373
04-09-2013, 08:36 PM #2
Love your w201. Great job.

Mb 1984 w201 om603 swap.
Mb 1986 w201 190E 2.3-16v
Mb 2004 w203 C230k
George3soccer
04-09-2013, 08:36 PM #2

Love your w201. Great job.


Mb 1984 w201 om603 swap.
Mb 1986 w201 190E 2.3-16v
Mb 2004 w203 C230k

Benjamin
STD Beginner

23
04-10-2013, 04:27 PM #3
(04-09-2013, 08:36 PM)George3soccer Love your w201. Great job.

Thank you I do my best Big Grin
Benjamin
04-10-2013, 04:27 PM #3

(04-09-2013, 08:36 PM)George3soccer Love your w201. Great job.

Thank you I do my best Big Grin

willbhere4u
Six in a row make her go!

2,507
04-10-2013, 04:45 PM #4
Nice looking car

With a decent turbo and a that 6mm injection pump
250hp would be reasonably easy

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
04-10-2013, 04:45 PM #4

Nice looking car

With a decent turbo and a that 6mm injection pump
250hp would be reasonably easy


1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

Benjamin
STD Beginner

23
04-11-2013, 08:58 AM #5
(04-10-2013, 04:45 PM)willbhere4u Nice looking car

With a decent turbo and a that 6mm injection pump
250hp would be reasonably easy

The only problem is that i dont now what turbo and what turbohousing size i need.

The pump is also modifyed with the 6mm elements. I maybe just need to increase a little bit fuel for the bigger turbo.

I would be happy with around 200-220hp.

I use the car as a daily driver. So I dont wont to go to high hp.
This post was last modified: 04-11-2013, 08:59 AM by Benjamin.
Benjamin
04-11-2013, 08:58 AM #5

(04-10-2013, 04:45 PM)willbhere4u Nice looking car

With a decent turbo and a that 6mm injection pump
250hp would be reasonably easy

The only problem is that i dont now what turbo and what turbohousing size i need.

The pump is also modifyed with the 6mm elements. I maybe just need to increase a little bit fuel for the bigger turbo.

I would be happy with around 200-220hp.

I use the car as a daily driver. So I dont wont to go to high hp.

Ksteen2
Holset

304
04-11-2013, 04:25 PM #6
I would use a HX35 with 11cm house.
Then You would esaly make 300 hp Wink

1#
Volvo 940 estate 1995
Originaly a d24tic
Changed to OM606.962 From the old 81 Benz
4" dp, 3,5" stainless from DP out.
8mm dieselmeken pump att 180cc
BW kkk K29 turbo, 15cm hot side
home made flywheel with sachs 765PP and original mercedes 240mm organic disc  
6speed cdi box
4,5" humongus cooler
Please wait, loading boost
Ksteen2
04-11-2013, 04:25 PM #6

I would use a HX35 with 11cm house.
Then You would esaly make 300 hp Wink


1#
Volvo 940 estate 1995
Originaly a d24tic
Changed to OM606.962 From the old 81 Benz
4" dp, 3,5" stainless from DP out.
8mm dieselmeken pump att 180cc
BW kkk K29 turbo, 15cm hot side
home made flywheel with sachs 765PP and original mercedes 240mm organic disc  
6speed cdi box
4,5" humongus cooler
Please wait, loading boost

Benjamin
STD Beginner

23
04-12-2013, 03:43 PM #7
(04-11-2013, 04:25 PM)Ksteen2 I would use a HX35 with 11cm house.
Then You would esaly make 300 hp Wink

Thats interesting to hear, but for every day its to much i dont now how the other parts would take so much power. I would be happy and fine with 200-220hp.

Some more info what HX35 you prefer. How much blades? Exhaust housing? Air housing?
Benjamin
04-12-2013, 03:43 PM #7

(04-11-2013, 04:25 PM)Ksteen2 I would use a HX35 with 11cm house.
Then You would esaly make 300 hp Wink

Thats interesting to hear, but for every day its to much i dont now how the other parts would take so much power. I would be happy and fine with 200-220hp.

Some more info what HX35 you prefer. How much blades? Exhaust housing? Air housing?

willbhere4u
Six in a row make her go!

2,507
04-12-2013, 05:09 PM #8
For that kind of power just turn up the boost on the stock turbo It will have better spool characteristics than a bigger one. and should support 18-20psi

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
04-12-2013, 05:09 PM #8

For that kind of power just turn up the boost on the stock turbo It will have better spool characteristics than a bigger one. and should support 18-20psi


1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

Benjamin
STD Beginner

23
04-13-2013, 05:16 PM #9
(04-12-2013, 05:09 PM)willbhere4u For that kind of power just turn up the boost on the stock turbo It will have better spool characteristics than a bigger one. and should support 18-20psi

The stock one doesent go to 200+hp...with the stock one ist safe to go to about 150hp + the stock one has a few years of usage so i dont think its the best way. I would like to buy a new one thats a little bigger that the stock one.

Thats the info that i have get.
This post was last modified: 04-13-2013, 05:25 PM by Benjamin.
Benjamin
04-13-2013, 05:16 PM #9

(04-12-2013, 05:09 PM)willbhere4u For that kind of power just turn up the boost on the stock turbo It will have better spool characteristics than a bigger one. and should support 18-20psi

The stock one doesent go to 200+hp...with the stock one ist safe to go to about 150hp + the stock one has a few years of usage so i dont think its the best way. I would like to buy a new one thats a little bigger that the stock one.

Thats the info that i have get.

Ksteen2
Holset

304
04-15-2013, 01:57 AM #10
the HX35 har a 4" inlet 2,5" outlet on cold side, a T3 flange and 4" exhaust out, the turbo have numerous housings, 9-11-13-15 cm, if you get a 11 cm, you will get a god spool with it, you can search for Holsett HX35 on google, and you get what info you want there Wink
a optimal daliy drive will come from a Dodge RAM 5,9 cummins diesel Wink

1#
Volvo 940 estate 1995
Originaly a d24tic
Changed to OM606.962 From the old 81 Benz
4" dp, 3,5" stainless from DP out.
8mm dieselmeken pump att 180cc
BW kkk K29 turbo, 15cm hot side
home made flywheel with sachs 765PP and original mercedes 240mm organic disc  
6speed cdi box
4,5" humongus cooler
Please wait, loading boost
Ksteen2
04-15-2013, 01:57 AM #10

the HX35 har a 4" inlet 2,5" outlet on cold side, a T3 flange and 4" exhaust out, the turbo have numerous housings, 9-11-13-15 cm, if you get a 11 cm, you will get a god spool with it, you can search for Holsett HX35 on google, and you get what info you want there Wink
a optimal daliy drive will come from a Dodge RAM 5,9 cummins diesel Wink


1#
Volvo 940 estate 1995
Originaly a d24tic
Changed to OM606.962 From the old 81 Benz
4" dp, 3,5" stainless from DP out.
8mm dieselmeken pump att 180cc
BW kkk K29 turbo, 15cm hot side
home made flywheel with sachs 765PP and original mercedes 240mm organic disc  
6speed cdi box
4,5" humongus cooler
Please wait, loading boost

upsie
ooh my 606

5
04-15-2013, 03:19 AM #11
i just want say i love your car !
upsie
04-15-2013, 03:19 AM #11

i just want say i love your car !

Benjamin
STD Beginner

23
04-15-2013, 04:28 AM #12
(04-15-2013, 01:57 AM)Ksteen2 the HX35 har a 4" inlet 2,5" outlet on cold side, a T3 flange and 4" exhaust out, the turbo have numerous housings, 9-11-13-15 cm, if you get a 11 cm, you will get a god spool with it, you can search for Holsett HX35 on google, and you get what info you want there Wink
a optimal daliy drive will come from a Dodge RAM 5,9 cummins diesel Wink

If i go with the HX35 an 11cm housing, is it a problem if i preinstal my new exhaust that was planed to be betwen 2,5 and 3 inch? Is it necessery to go bigger than 3 inch for a 200hp car?

(04-15-2013, 03:19 AM)upsie i just want say i love your car !

Thank you... I do my best Smile
This post was last modified: 04-15-2013, 04:30 AM by Benjamin.
Benjamin
04-15-2013, 04:28 AM #12

(04-15-2013, 01:57 AM)Ksteen2 the HX35 har a 4" inlet 2,5" outlet on cold side, a T3 flange and 4" exhaust out, the turbo have numerous housings, 9-11-13-15 cm, if you get a 11 cm, you will get a god spool with it, you can search for Holsett HX35 on google, and you get what info you want there Wink
a optimal daliy drive will come from a Dodge RAM 5,9 cummins diesel Wink

If i go with the HX35 an 11cm housing, is it a problem if i preinstal my new exhaust that was planed to be betwen 2,5 and 3 inch? Is it necessery to go bigger than 3 inch for a 200hp car?

(04-15-2013, 03:19 AM)upsie i just want say i love your car !

Thank you... I do my best Smile

majesty78
GT2559V

226
04-15-2013, 04:44 AM #13
2.5" is more than enough for 200-220hp ;-)

Mercedes Benz W210 E-Class 320CDI, lowered 2.5", 18" AMG wheels, Decat, EGR removed, Tumble flaps removed, C30 AMG injectors, 400kpa MAP, Custom GT2566XTV turbo, SW tweaked to 300+hp/750NmBig Grin
majesty78
04-15-2013, 04:44 AM #13

2.5" is more than enough for 200-220hp ;-)


Mercedes Benz W210 E-Class 320CDI, lowered 2.5", 18" AMG wheels, Decat, EGR removed, Tumble flaps removed, C30 AMG injectors, 400kpa MAP, Custom GT2566XTV turbo, SW tweaked to 300+hp/750NmBig Grin

Ksteen2
Holset

304
04-15-2013, 06:29 AM #14
use 3", you can get problems with back pressure with smaller Wink
spesialy if you get a bigger pump Wink

1#
Volvo 940 estate 1995
Originaly a d24tic
Changed to OM606.962 From the old 81 Benz
4" dp, 3,5" stainless from DP out.
8mm dieselmeken pump att 180cc
BW kkk K29 turbo, 15cm hot side
home made flywheel with sachs 765PP and original mercedes 240mm organic disc  
6speed cdi box
4,5" humongus cooler
Please wait, loading boost
Ksteen2
04-15-2013, 06:29 AM #14

use 3", you can get problems with back pressure with smaller Wink
spesialy if you get a bigger pump Wink


1#
Volvo 940 estate 1995
Originaly a d24tic
Changed to OM606.962 From the old 81 Benz
4" dp, 3,5" stainless from DP out.
8mm dieselmeken pump att 180cc
BW kkk K29 turbo, 15cm hot side
home made flywheel with sachs 765PP and original mercedes 240mm organic disc  
6speed cdi box
4,5" humongus cooler
Please wait, loading boost

willbhere4u
Six in a row make her go!

2,507
04-15-2013, 04:38 PM #15
a t3/t4 hybrid would suit it nicely.

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
04-15-2013, 04:38 PM #15

a t3/t4 hybrid would suit it nicely.


1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

Benjamin
STD Beginner

23
04-15-2013, 04:49 PM #16
You say 3".

A bigger pump that this one with 6mm elements I dont plan to use. This is absolutly enough for me.

The only plan is to upgrade a turbo. But still doesent now what model?

So 2,5 or 3? I need to check with the workshop do they have tools for a such big pipe in diameter to make angels. This kinde of pipe isnt standart here in Croatia.

Most used are 2.25". All whats bigger then that is a special order. I have meet in the last few days many problems with my build. Hard to find parts what Im looking for.

For exmp. Aluminium 90 degree pipe...doesent exist in Croatia. No one can make it. The only way order over ebay.


Anyone have precise part number of turbos that I should search for?
This post was last modified: 04-15-2013, 04:52 PM by Benjamin.
Benjamin
04-15-2013, 04:49 PM #16

You say 3".

A bigger pump that this one with 6mm elements I dont plan to use. This is absolutly enough for me.

The only plan is to upgrade a turbo. But still doesent now what model?

So 2,5 or 3? I need to check with the workshop do they have tools for a such big pipe in diameter to make angels. This kinde of pipe isnt standart here in Croatia.

Most used are 2.25". All whats bigger then that is a special order. I have meet in the last few days many problems with my build. Hard to find parts what Im looking for.

For exmp. Aluminium 90 degree pipe...doesent exist in Croatia. No one can make it. The only way order over ebay.


Anyone have precise part number of turbos that I should search for?

willbhere4u
Six in a row make her go!

2,507
04-15-2013, 05:35 PM #17
look up Garrett t3's they are the most copied turbo out there they came stock on old Mercedes 300d like w123 old Volvo 240's I had one made in to a t3/t4 a few years ago should support 20psi easily

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
04-15-2013, 05:35 PM #17

look up Garrett t3's they are the most copied turbo out there they came stock on old Mercedes 300d like w123 old Volvo 240's I had one made in to a t3/t4 a few years ago should support 20psi easily


1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

Benjamin
STD Beginner

23
04-15-2013, 05:52 PM #18
(04-15-2013, 05:35 PM)willbhere4u look up Garrett t3's they are the most copied turbo out there they came stock on old Mercedes 300d like w123 old Volvo 240's I had one made in to a t3/t4 a few years ago should support 20psi easily

In this direction I have thik.

Garrett T3 T4 are the most common here. I would be gratefull if i can get a little bit more info... in what direction should i look. Part number.

Im not a turbo guru. I have read articles but the housing of turbos i still complicated to me.. I dont now what size to search for.

Turbine size,Housing size etc...

A little update:

some IC piping

[Image: 0fefdoxp6bsh1ppvp8k.jpg]
[Image: x1g5osbf257m47rr6cp4.jpg]


Hope you like it Smile
This post was last modified: 04-15-2013, 06:06 PM by Benjamin.
Benjamin
04-15-2013, 05:52 PM #18

(04-15-2013, 05:35 PM)willbhere4u look up Garrett t3's they are the most copied turbo out there they came stock on old Mercedes 300d like w123 old Volvo 240's I had one made in to a t3/t4 a few years ago should support 20psi easily

In this direction I have thik.

Garrett T3 T4 are the most common here. I would be gratefull if i can get a little bit more info... in what direction should i look. Part number.

Im not a turbo guru. I have read articles but the housing of turbos i still complicated to me.. I dont now what size to search for.

Turbine size,Housing size etc...

A little update:

some IC piping

[Image: 0fefdoxp6bsh1ppvp8k.jpg]
[Image: x1g5osbf257m47rr6cp4.jpg]


Hope you like it Smile

Ksteen2
Holset

304
04-16-2013, 02:54 AM #19
just find a T3\T4 with an AR.63 exhaust housing, and it will be just perfect Wink
the deal for more power is diesel Wink
u can get 350 Bhp with 6mm elements and HX35 in a OM606, if u get 6mm and a T3/T4 u should be able to gett 250 Wink

1#
Volvo 940 estate 1995
Originaly a d24tic
Changed to OM606.962 From the old 81 Benz
4" dp, 3,5" stainless from DP out.
8mm dieselmeken pump att 180cc
BW kkk K29 turbo, 15cm hot side
home made flywheel with sachs 765PP and original mercedes 240mm organic disc  
6speed cdi box
4,5" humongus cooler
Please wait, loading boost
Ksteen2
04-16-2013, 02:54 AM #19

just find a T3\T4 with an AR.63 exhaust housing, and it will be just perfect Wink
the deal for more power is diesel Wink
u can get 350 Bhp with 6mm elements and HX35 in a OM606, if u get 6mm and a T3/T4 u should be able to gett 250 Wink


1#
Volvo 940 estate 1995
Originaly a d24tic
Changed to OM606.962 From the old 81 Benz
4" dp, 3,5" stainless from DP out.
8mm dieselmeken pump att 180cc
BW kkk K29 turbo, 15cm hot side
home made flywheel with sachs 765PP and original mercedes 240mm organic disc  
6speed cdi box
4,5" humongus cooler
Please wait, loading boost

Benjamin
STD Beginner

23
04-16-2013, 04:55 PM #20
Good day today Smile

IC piping finished.
[Image: cv9ygnppwe2pxupax7p.jpg]
[Image: z1r2plnzmadwbudtyxk.jpg]

Rear Big brake upgrade complete.
[Image: f25cx8mmtjc60wldzjns.jpg]

Front Big brake I have upgradet a few weeks ago.
[Image: tv9vcg3jwmkpn6mjc7t.jpg]

@Ksteen2 - Thanks I take a look what can I finde.
Benjamin
04-16-2013, 04:55 PM #20

Good day today Smile

IC piping finished.
[Image: cv9ygnppwe2pxupax7p.jpg]
[Image: z1r2plnzmadwbudtyxk.jpg]

Rear Big brake upgrade complete.
[Image: f25cx8mmtjc60wldzjns.jpg]

Front Big brake I have upgradet a few weeks ago.
[Image: tv9vcg3jwmkpn6mjc7t.jpg]

@Ksteen2 - Thanks I take a look what can I finde.

Ksteen2
Holset

304
04-17-2013, 01:44 AM #21
how big are the disc's?
what are they from?

1#
Volvo 940 estate 1995
Originaly a d24tic
Changed to OM606.962 From the old 81 Benz
4" dp, 3,5" stainless from DP out.
8mm dieselmeken pump att 180cc
BW kkk K29 turbo, 15cm hot side
home made flywheel with sachs 765PP and original mercedes 240mm organic disc  
6speed cdi box
4,5" humongus cooler
Please wait, loading boost
Ksteen2
04-17-2013, 01:44 AM #21

how big are the disc's?
what are they from?


1#
Volvo 940 estate 1995
Originaly a d24tic
Changed to OM606.962 From the old 81 Benz
4" dp, 3,5" stainless from DP out.
8mm dieselmeken pump att 180cc
BW kkk K29 turbo, 15cm hot side
home made flywheel with sachs 765PP and original mercedes 240mm organic disc  
6speed cdi box
4,5" humongus cooler
Please wait, loading boost

Benjamin
STD Beginner

23
04-17-2013, 03:00 AM #22
(04-17-2013, 01:44 AM)Ksteen2 how big are the disc's?
what are they from?

W124 E420
but i think ona 300 24V are the same size breakes.

Front are 294mm with 4 Pot calipers.
Rear are 278mm with 2 Pot calipers.
This post was last modified: 04-18-2013, 07:00 AM by Benjamin.
Benjamin
04-17-2013, 03:00 AM #22

(04-17-2013, 01:44 AM)Ksteen2 how big are the disc's?
what are they from?

W124 E420
but i think ona 300 24V are the same size breakes.

Front are 294mm with 4 Pot calipers.
Rear are 278mm with 2 Pot calipers.

Ksteen2
Holset

304
04-18-2013, 02:04 AM #23
is it bigger brakes om a 300TDT? ;o
those are little over 300mm Smile
This post was last modified: 04-18-2013, 02:05 AM by Ksteen2.

1#
Volvo 940 estate 1995
Originaly a d24tic
Changed to OM606.962 From the old 81 Benz
4" dp, 3,5" stainless from DP out.
8mm dieselmeken pump att 180cc
BW kkk K29 turbo, 15cm hot side
home made flywheel with sachs 765PP and original mercedes 240mm organic disc  
6speed cdi box
4,5" humongus cooler
Please wait, loading boost
Ksteen2
04-18-2013, 02:04 AM #23

is it bigger brakes om a 300TDT? ;o
those are little over 300mm Smile


1#
Volvo 940 estate 1995
Originaly a d24tic
Changed to OM606.962 From the old 81 Benz
4" dp, 3,5" stainless from DP out.
8mm dieselmeken pump att 180cc
BW kkk K29 turbo, 15cm hot side
home made flywheel with sachs 765PP and original mercedes 240mm organic disc  
6speed cdi box
4,5" humongus cooler
Please wait, loading boost

Benjamin
STD Beginner

23
04-18-2013, 05:46 AM #24
(04-18-2013, 02:04 AM)Ksteen2 is it bigger brakes om a 300TDT? ;o
those are little over 300mm Smile

tdt-s are not common here so i dont now. I now that are existing a older version discs that are a few mm bigger I think 300mm butt they are thinner around 22mm and my 298mm are around 25 or 27 mm.

someone says that the thinner ones had problems with deformation and vibrations. Somewhere I have read this.
This post was last modified: 04-18-2013, 05:47 AM by Benjamin.
Benjamin
04-18-2013, 05:46 AM #24

(04-18-2013, 02:04 AM)Ksteen2 is it bigger brakes om a 300TDT? ;o
those are little over 300mm Smile

tdt-s are not common here so i dont now. I now that are existing a older version discs that are a few mm bigger I think 300mm butt they are thinner around 22mm and my 298mm are around 25 or 27 mm.

someone says that the thinner ones had problems with deformation and vibrations. Somewhere I have read this.

raysorenson
Superturbo

1,162
04-18-2013, 06:32 AM #25
I understand the E420's came with 295x22mm or or 294x25mm front discs.

http://www.w124performance.com/docs/mb/W...brakes.pdf
raysorenson
04-18-2013, 06:32 AM #25

I understand the E420's came with 295x22mm or or 294x25mm front discs.

http://www.w124performance.com/docs/mb/W...brakes.pdf

Benjamin
STD Beginner

23
04-18-2013, 06:58 AM #26
(04-18-2013, 06:32 AM)raysorenson I understand the E420's came with 295x22mm or or 294x25mm front discs.

http://www.w124performance.com/docs/mb/W...brakes.pdf

yes thats correct.I Write the wrong dimensions. 294x25 and 295x22.
Benjamin
04-18-2013, 06:58 AM #26

(04-18-2013, 06:32 AM)raysorenson I understand the E420's came with 295x22mm or or 294x25mm front discs.

http://www.w124performance.com/docs/mb/W...brakes.pdf

yes thats correct.I Write the wrong dimensions. 294x25 and 295x22.

Benjamin
STD Beginner

23
04-22-2013, 06:41 PM #27
I stuck with the project a little bit.. problems with the cooling system..i wil post pictures an the results after i finish the cooling system...

Another question

What size air filter should I use with the car? I dont use the stock air filter housing. Im thinkig of using something like K&N.

I have found a information that a 500cfm filter should do the thing?

Has someone a good info?
Benjamin
04-22-2013, 06:41 PM #27

I stuck with the project a little bit.. problems with the cooling system..i wil post pictures an the results after i finish the cooling system...

Another question

What size air filter should I use with the car? I dont use the stock air filter housing. Im thinkig of using something like K&N.

I have found a information that a 500cfm filter should do the thing?

Has someone a good info?

Benjamin
STD Beginner

23
05-03-2013, 03:41 AM #28
Good news. Car is running. Cooling system is fixed. The original visco system is throve away and electric fans are installed, also a new oil cooler in the front fender.

a 70mm stainless steel exhaust is installed, and a new K&N filter is installed.

New pictures this weekend.

I'm happy with the performance. The dog leg gearbox out of a 16V works perfectly with the differential
Benjamin
05-03-2013, 03:41 AM #28

Good news. Car is running. Cooling system is fixed. The original visco system is throve away and electric fans are installed, also a new oil cooler in the front fender.

a 70mm stainless steel exhaust is installed, and a new K&N filter is installed.

New pictures this weekend.

I'm happy with the performance. The dog leg gearbox out of a 16V works perfectly with the differential

Benjamin
STD Beginner

23
05-05-2013, 06:45 PM #29
Some pictures from yesterday...

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[Image: x6vzpe2gshwk6v6s2.jpg]
Benjamin
05-05-2013, 06:45 PM #29

Some pictures from yesterday...

[Image: 0d0hvpgh5q0taduilbb.jpg]

[Image: nkwsvphgey0to0cs2snz.jpg]

[Image: x6vzpe2gshwk6v6s2.jpg]

MFSuper90
Budget Builder

1,533
05-05-2013, 08:21 PM #30
Sexyyy Big Grin
I think your current air filter setup should be fine.
Is that a air to water intercooler or air to air?

'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         
MFSuper90
05-05-2013, 08:21 PM #30

Sexyyy Big Grin
I think your current air filter setup should be fine.
Is that a air to water intercooler or air to air?


'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         

Benjamin
STD Beginner

23
05-06-2013, 03:40 AM #31
(05-05-2013, 08:21 PM)MFSuper90 Sexyyy Big Grin
I think your current air filter setup should be fine.
Is that a air to water intercooler or air to air?

Its a air to air IC.
Benjamin
05-06-2013, 03:40 AM #31

(05-05-2013, 08:21 PM)MFSuper90 Sexyyy Big Grin
I think your current air filter setup should be fine.
Is that a air to water intercooler or air to air?

Its a air to air IC.

TurboWalt
K26-2

33
05-06-2013, 05:19 AM #32
Benjamin,

Great 190 project that you have there! I have a 87 190D Turbo that I'm working on. So far I've installed a 16V body kit, 93 w124 400e front and rear disc brakes, and 7.5 EVOII wheels. I have 16V front and rear seats that will go in it, I will keep the interior color palomino. I plan to install a bigger pump, turbo & intercooler like you are in the process of. Right now I'm undecided on what to do for a transmission. I know the 722.4 probably wont last. Good to hear that 16V dogleg is working for you! Keep up the good work. Your car is inspiration for me to finish mine.

Walt
TurboWalt
05-06-2013, 05:19 AM #32

Benjamin,

Great 190 project that you have there! I have a 87 190D Turbo that I'm working on. So far I've installed a 16V body kit, 93 w124 400e front and rear disc brakes, and 7.5 EVOII wheels. I have 16V front and rear seats that will go in it, I will keep the interior color palomino. I plan to install a bigger pump, turbo & intercooler like you are in the process of. Right now I'm undecided on what to do for a transmission. I know the 722.4 probably wont last. Good to hear that 16V dogleg is working for you! Keep up the good work. Your car is inspiration for me to finish mine.

Walt

Benjamin
STD Beginner

23
05-06-2013, 06:09 AM #33
(05-06-2013, 05:19 AM)TurboWalt Benjamin,

Great 190 project that you have there! I have a 87 190D Turbo that I'm working on. So far I've installed a 16V body kit, 93 w124 400e front and rear disc brakes, and 7.5 EVOII wheels. I have 16V front and rear seats that will go in it, I will keep the interior color palomino. I plan to install a bigger pump, turbo & intercooler like you are in the process of. Right now I'm undecided on what to do for a transmission. I know the 722.4 probably wont last. Good to hear that 16V dogleg is working for you! Keep up the good work. Your car is inspiration for me to finish mine.

Walt

Thanks, I. Appreciate that.

I have use a Dog Leg gearbox out of a 2.5 16V with driveshaft, flywheel and clutch out of my old 2.0D and the differential is out of a 2.5 TD automatic transmission I think it was 2.65.

Works fine for me. Acceleration is great and max speed is around 220km/h. For my use perfectly. Maybe I try another differential to get a comparison.
Benjamin
05-06-2013, 06:09 AM #33

(05-06-2013, 05:19 AM)TurboWalt Benjamin,

Great 190 project that you have there! I have a 87 190D Turbo that I'm working on. So far I've installed a 16V body kit, 93 w124 400e front and rear disc brakes, and 7.5 EVOII wheels. I have 16V front and rear seats that will go in it, I will keep the interior color palomino. I plan to install a bigger pump, turbo & intercooler like you are in the process of. Right now I'm undecided on what to do for a transmission. I know the 722.4 probably wont last. Good to hear that 16V dogleg is working for you! Keep up the good work. Your car is inspiration for me to finish mine.

Walt

Thanks, I. Appreciate that.

I have use a Dog Leg gearbox out of a 2.5 16V with driveshaft, flywheel and clutch out of my old 2.0D and the differential is out of a 2.5 TD automatic transmission I think it was 2.65.

Works fine for me. Acceleration is great and max speed is around 220km/h. For my use perfectly. Maybe I try another differential to get a comparison.

Benjamin
STD Beginner

23
07-02-2013, 03:47 PM #34
Hello,

I'm back after a while. I took a little vacation to relax from the last project.

It's time to go on.

The Benz has got a new flywheel and cluch ugrpade. The old one didn't hold any more. It was too weak. I have make a upgrade to a 228mm cluch.

[Image: dz7r3qpiupgyr1x0f5.jpg]
This post was last modified: 07-02-2013, 03:48 PM by Benjamin.
Benjamin
07-02-2013, 03:47 PM #34

Hello,

I'm back after a while. I took a little vacation to relax from the last project.

It's time to go on.

The Benz has got a new flywheel and cluch ugrpade. The old one didn't hold any more. It was too weak. I have make a upgrade to a 228mm cluch.

[Image: dz7r3qpiupgyr1x0f5.jpg]

Simpler=Better
PORTED HEAD

2,127
07-02-2013, 04:04 PM #35
It's beautiful! Your engine bay is immaculate

Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
07-02-2013, 04:04 PM #35

It's beautiful! Your engine bay is immaculate


Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?

Benjamin
STD Beginner

23
07-02-2013, 04:33 PM #36
Thank you. I do my best. Smile
Benjamin
07-02-2013, 04:33 PM #36

Thank you. I do my best. Smile

Benjamin
STD Beginner

23
01-20-2014, 02:55 PM #37
Hello to all,

after I was long time not present on the forum I make a quick post what happens in the meantime.

After installing a new couch the biggest one for a short time it was OK, but not for long after 3000km the cluch starts to slip again. I search for the problem and found it. The problem was the secondary cluch cylinder. The pushing pin was to long I shortened it and now its fine.

After this I got another problem. On Friday evening I was driving (hard style) Smile and unluckily the U-join on the drive shaft broke down.
So now the drive shaft broken we need to re-welding it.

[Image: dt4t24jb20pyqn7kqbc.jpg]

[Image: hj86qu58a4w70prflk6.jpg]S

Stay tuned.
Benjamin
01-20-2014, 02:55 PM #37

Hello to all,

after I was long time not present on the forum I make a quick post what happens in the meantime.

After installing a new couch the biggest one for a short time it was OK, but not for long after 3000km the cluch starts to slip again. I search for the problem and found it. The problem was the secondary cluch cylinder. The pushing pin was to long I shortened it and now its fine.

After this I got another problem. On Friday evening I was driving (hard style) Smile and unluckily the U-join on the drive shaft broke down.
So now the drive shaft broken we need to re-welding it.

[Image: dt4t24jb20pyqn7kqbc.jpg]

[Image: hj86qu58a4w70prflk6.jpg]S

Stay tuned.

swampmonkey
hx40 super

280
01-20-2014, 03:06 PM #38
(04-13-2013, 05:16 PM)Benjamin
(04-12-2013, 05:09 PM)willbhere4u For that kind of power just turn up the boost on the stock turbo It will have better spool characteristics than a bigger one. and should support 18-20psi

The stock one doesent go to 200+hp...with the stock one ist safe to go to about 150hp + the stock one has a few years of usage so i dont think its the best way. I would like to buy a new one thats a little bigger that the stock one.

Thats the info that i have get.

i have perhaps 220whp on my om602 with stock turbo, 1.6bar boost at inlet after IC.
beats a 300CE 12valve and 2.3 16v.

7.5mm 180cc pump that i dont fully use. need a better gearbox Tongue

---------------------------------
daily driver
w115 240d 72hp 3.07 rearend
w123 om602 turbo 200whp 7.5mm pump fivespeed 3.07 rearend
+ a few more.
mbturbo.com
swampmonkey
01-20-2014, 03:06 PM #38

(04-13-2013, 05:16 PM)Benjamin
(04-12-2013, 05:09 PM)willbhere4u For that kind of power just turn up the boost on the stock turbo It will have better spool characteristics than a bigger one. and should support 18-20psi

The stock one doesent go to 200+hp...with the stock one ist safe to go to about 150hp + the stock one has a few years of usage so i dont think its the best way. I would like to buy a new one thats a little bigger that the stock one.

Thats the info that i have get.

i have perhaps 220whp on my om602 with stock turbo, 1.6bar boost at inlet after IC.
beats a 300CE 12valve and 2.3 16v.

7.5mm 180cc pump that i dont fully use. need a better gearbox Tongue


---------------------------------
daily driver
w115 240d 72hp 3.07 rearend
w123 om602 turbo 200whp 7.5mm pump fivespeed 3.07 rearend
+ a few more.
mbturbo.com

Benjamin
STD Beginner

23
01-20-2014, 05:04 PM #39
(01-20-2014, 03:06 PM)swampmonkey
(04-13-2013, 05:16 PM)Benjamin
(04-12-2013, 05:09 PM)willbhere4u For that kind of power just turn up the boost on the stock turbo It will have better spool characteristics than a bigger one. and should support 18-20psi

The stock one doesent go to 200+hp...with the stock one ist safe to go to about 150hp + the stock one has a few years of usage so i dont think its the best way. I would like to buy a new one thats a little bigger that the stock one.

Thats the info that i have get.

i have perhaps 220whp on my om602 with stock turbo, 1.6bar boost at inlet after IC.
beats a 300CE 12valve and 2.3 16v.

7.5mm 180cc pump that i dont fully use. need a better gearbox Tongue

Interesting.

You have got my atention =)

We have set my pump with 6mm elements to around 75-80ccm an the stock turbo boosts around 0.9 bar.

I wait for the boost controller to set the boost a little higer and see if we need to add more fuel. I target something around 1.2 bar with stock turbo.

The turbo has some milage so Im a little bit skeptical. Later I maybe get a lightly bigger one.

The only problem are the elements for the fuel pump. Its a bit hard to find bigger here in Croatia.
This post was last modified: 01-20-2014, 05:05 PM by Benjamin.
Benjamin
01-20-2014, 05:04 PM #39

(01-20-2014, 03:06 PM)swampmonkey
(04-13-2013, 05:16 PM)Benjamin
(04-12-2013, 05:09 PM)willbhere4u For that kind of power just turn up the boost on the stock turbo It will have better spool characteristics than a bigger one. and should support 18-20psi

The stock one doesent go to 200+hp...with the stock one ist safe to go to about 150hp + the stock one has a few years of usage so i dont think its the best way. I would like to buy a new one thats a little bigger that the stock one.

Thats the info that i have get.

i have perhaps 220whp on my om602 with stock turbo, 1.6bar boost at inlet after IC.
beats a 300CE 12valve and 2.3 16v.

7.5mm 180cc pump that i dont fully use. need a better gearbox Tongue

Interesting.

You have got my atention =)

We have set my pump with 6mm elements to around 75-80ccm an the stock turbo boosts around 0.9 bar.

I wait for the boost controller to set the boost a little higer and see if we need to add more fuel. I target something around 1.2 bar with stock turbo.

The turbo has some milage so Im a little bit skeptical. Later I maybe get a lightly bigger one.

The only problem are the elements for the fuel pump. Its a bit hard to find bigger here in Croatia.

Ksteen2
Holset

304
01-26-2014, 02:17 PM #40
Looks Like a verry good resault Wink

1#
Volvo 940 estate 1995
Originaly a d24tic
Changed to OM606.962 From the old 81 Benz
4" dp, 3,5" stainless from DP out.
8mm dieselmeken pump att 180cc
BW kkk K29 turbo, 15cm hot side
home made flywheel with sachs 765PP and original mercedes 240mm organic disc  
6speed cdi box
4,5" humongus cooler
Please wait, loading boost
Ksteen2
01-26-2014, 02:17 PM #40

Looks Like a verry good resault Wink


1#
Volvo 940 estate 1995
Originaly a d24tic
Changed to OM606.962 From the old 81 Benz
4" dp, 3,5" stainless from DP out.
8mm dieselmeken pump att 180cc
BW kkk K29 turbo, 15cm hot side
home made flywheel with sachs 765PP and original mercedes 240mm organic disc  
6speed cdi box
4,5" humongus cooler
Please wait, loading boost

bmartins
GTA2056V

75
01-10-2016, 06:13 PM #41
Hello.
When you installed a 2.0d clutch/flywheel single mass, did you changed the 215mm to 228mm?
And after that when it cannot hold the power which set did you installed?
thanks
bmartins
01-10-2016, 06:13 PM #41

Hello.
When you installed a 2.0d clutch/flywheel single mass, did you changed the 215mm to 228mm?
And after that when it cannot hold the power which set did you installed?
thanks

Repetitio
GT2256V

137
01-14-2016, 02:48 PM #42
Very nice project Wink
Repetitio
01-14-2016, 02:48 PM #42

Very nice project Wink

 
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