STD Tuning Engine Getting an OM605 to fit into a 190d (w201)

Getting an OM605 to fit into a 190d (w201)

Getting an OM605 to fit into a 190d (w201)

 
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Eric78
GT2559V

196
03-08-2013, 01:25 PM #1
In a couple of months my OM605 should be arriving, anything I need to know about making this fit in a 190d 2.5?

There is one other person I know of in Australia who has fitted one of these into a W201 & he seemed to have an unusual amount of trouble making it fit, the sump fouled the cross member so he had to cut & weld that (I'd have modded the sump instead) & the engine sat too high in the engine bay, the bonnet(hood) wouldn't shut, he ended up having custom engine mounts made which lowered the engine & moved it forward, but he put his into a 180e (Australian market w201 with 1.8 litre petrol engine).

Should there be any real trouble making this fit into a 190d 2.5?
This post was last modified: 03-08-2013, 01:26 PM by Eric78.
Eric78
03-08-2013, 01:25 PM #1

In a couple of months my OM605 should be arriving, anything I need to know about making this fit in a 190d 2.5?

There is one other person I know of in Australia who has fitted one of these into a W201 & he seemed to have an unusual amount of trouble making it fit, the sump fouled the cross member so he had to cut & weld that (I'd have modded the sump instead) & the engine sat too high in the engine bay, the bonnet(hood) wouldn't shut, he ended up having custom engine mounts made which lowered the engine & moved it forward, but he put his into a 180e (Australian market w201 with 1.8 litre petrol engine).

Should there be any real trouble making this fit into a 190d 2.5?

anjay
1998 E300 Turbodiesel

57
03-08-2013, 09:51 PM #2
I have 190 D with 2.2 in it. I don't see while would be any problem. The 2.5 is one cylinder longer
but it should fit just fine. After all are some production 190 with it installed.
After saying that, it depends on transmission you are using. You might have to modify/alter driveshafts length..
This post was last modified: 03-08-2013, 09:54 PM by anjay.

1977 300D for parts? Just a pile of rust but still runs!
1984 190D 2.2 - gone to better home
1987 Dodge Maxivan with OM603 and Goran’s 7.5 backroads terror
1987 300TD - tinker toy
1989 300TE - parts
1991 300TE - backyards decor
1991 300TD - Barrote’s 7.5
1992 300TD - semi-STD(Goran modified 7.5 ip but still with factory turbo+at)
1998 E300TD - dd with DSL1 now
1998 ML320 - snow ride
2014 Sprinter 2500 - Malone’s tune + pedal box
anjay
03-08-2013, 09:51 PM #2

I have 190 D with 2.2 in it. I don't see while would be any problem. The 2.5 is one cylinder longer
but it should fit just fine. After all are some production 190 with it installed.
After saying that, it depends on transmission you are using. You might have to modify/alter driveshafts length..


1977 300D for parts? Just a pile of rust but still runs!
1984 190D 2.2 - gone to better home
1987 Dodge Maxivan with OM603 and Goran’s 7.5 backroads terror
1987 300TD - tinker toy
1989 300TE - parts
1991 300TE - backyards decor
1991 300TD - Barrote’s 7.5
1992 300TD - semi-STD(Goran modified 7.5 ip but still with factory turbo+at)
1998 E300TD - dd with DSL1 now
1998 ML320 - snow ride
2014 Sprinter 2500 - Malone’s tune + pedal box

aaa
GT2256V

913
03-09-2013, 02:38 AM #3
W201 is W201, the 180e and 190e are mostly the same. I would wonder about the first set of motor mount arms he used, since the turbo 602 fits fine with its crossover pipe. Same with the oil sump, the 602 does not have much of a notch in the pan for clearing the swaybar, although it is there.
aaa
03-09-2013, 02:38 AM #3

W201 is W201, the 180e and 190e are mostly the same. I would wonder about the first set of motor mount arms he used, since the turbo 602 fits fine with its crossover pipe. Same with the oil sump, the 602 does not have much of a notch in the pan for clearing the swaybar, although it is there.

EDH_Performance
Holset

537
03-09-2013, 05:24 AM #4
The 605 and the 602 block is almost identical, so it will fitt perfect! Use your 602 motormounts and use your 602 flywheel...Then you can bolt your stock transmission to itWink Swapping this engine is a 1 hour job, easiest you can doBig Grin
EDH_Performance
03-09-2013, 05:24 AM #4

The 605 and the 602 block is almost identical, so it will fitt perfect! Use your 602 motormounts and use your 602 flywheel...Then you can bolt your stock transmission to itWink Swapping this engine is a 1 hour job, easiest you can doBig Grin

Eric78
GT2559V

196
03-10-2013, 04:59 AM #5
(03-09-2013, 05:24 AM)EDH_Performance The 605 and the 602 block is almost identical, so it will fitt perfect! Use your 602 motormounts and use your 602 flywheel...Then you can bolt your stock transmission to itWink Swapping this engine is a 1 hour job, easiest you can doBig Grin

Yeah, that's what I thought, I figured it should nearly be a straight swap, I'm not sure why he had so much trouble unless the smaller petrol 4cyls use a different crossmember? In which case he could have saved himself an enormous amount of trouble by just getting the cross member from a 190d.
Eric78
03-10-2013, 04:59 AM #5

(03-09-2013, 05:24 AM)EDH_Performance The 605 and the 602 block is almost identical, so it will fitt perfect! Use your 602 motormounts and use your 602 flywheel...Then you can bolt your stock transmission to itWink Swapping this engine is a 1 hour job, easiest you can doBig Grin

Yeah, that's what I thought, I figured it should nearly be a straight swap, I'm not sure why he had so much trouble unless the smaller petrol 4cyls use a different crossmember? In which case he could have saved himself an enormous amount of trouble by just getting the cross member from a 190d.

W201TD
Naturally-aspirated

6
10-01-2014, 03:43 PM #6
(03-09-2013, 05:24 AM)EDH_Performance The 605 and the 602 block is almost identical, so it will fitt perfect! Use your 602 motormounts and use your 602 flywheel...Then you can bolt your stock transmission to itWink Swapping this engine is a 1 hour job, easiest you can doBig Grin


I did today the job, putting an om605 into a w201 1.8 1990. I used the om605 mounting arms and the 1.8 190 mountings. But the problem is that one side of the mountingarm will not fit the mounting ?!?!? And I saw that my engine is too high.

I tried to fix the 1.8 190 mounting arms but they don't fit to the om605 engine. Because the is a different between 3bolts (w201) and 4 bolts (w202)

Who can help me out, I can't finish the job now.

Gr Jm
W201TD
10-01-2014, 03:43 PM #6

(03-09-2013, 05:24 AM)EDH_Performance The 605 and the 602 block is almost identical, so it will fitt perfect! Use your 602 motormounts and use your 602 flywheel...Then you can bolt your stock transmission to itWink Swapping this engine is a 1 hour job, easiest you can doBig Grin


I did today the job, putting an om605 into a w201 1.8 1990. I used the om605 mounting arms and the 1.8 190 mountings. But the problem is that one side of the mountingarm will not fit the mounting ?!?!? And I saw that my engine is too high.

I tried to fix the 1.8 190 mounting arms but they don't fit to the om605 engine. Because the is a different between 3bolts (w201) and 4 bolts (w202)

Who can help me out, I can't finish the job now.

Gr Jm

ecFSE
K26-2

25
10-01-2014, 04:16 PM #7
You need the enginemounts from a OM602.
ecFSE
10-01-2014, 04:16 PM #7

You need the enginemounts from a OM602.

hooblah
Holset

401
10-01-2014, 04:36 PM #8
As it happens, I have a pair of 602 arms lying around. Make me an offer Tongue
hooblah
10-01-2014, 04:36 PM #8

As it happens, I have a pair of 602 arms lying around. Make me an offer Tongue

Jetmugg
GT2256V

125
10-02-2014, 09:10 AM #9
I believe that the OM602 arms and OM602 oil pan should work perfectly for this swap. (My daily driver is a 190D with a turbo OM602 and 5-speed gearbox).

Steve.
Jetmugg
10-02-2014, 09:10 AM #9

I believe that the OM602 arms and OM602 oil pan should work perfectly for this swap. (My daily driver is a 190D with a turbo OM602 and 5-speed gearbox).

Steve.

 
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