are there any OM616/617 heads with larger valves?
are there any OM616/617 heads with larger valves?
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larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
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02-10-2013, 10:19 PM #2You can always get a machine shop to build it bigger. See what LS engine valves are available maybe?
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617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
hmm.You can have any competent machine shop make custom valve guides, they're just a bronze tube.
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617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
02-11-2013, 11:31 PM #5Look in my build thread there are high res photos of the head.
You can have any competent machine shop make custom valve guides, they're just a bronze tube.
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617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
(02-11-2013, 11:31 PM)Simpler=Better Look in my build thread there are high res photos of the head.
You can have any competent machine shop make custom valve guides, they're just a bronze tube.
At least a few times I've seen you mention "competent machine shop" lol where are you at? Someday I'll have something machined by you, don't know what!
PS sorry for the hijack
" straighten up that star on the grill, assholes."
lgreeley83
02-13-2013, 04:13 PM #7(02-11-2013, 11:31 PM)Simpler=Better Look in my build thread there are high res photos of the head.
You can have any competent machine shop make custom valve guides, they're just a bronze tube.
At least a few times I've seen you mention "competent machine shop" lol where are you at? Someday I'll have something machined by you, don't know what!
PS sorry for the hijack
" straighten up that star on the grill, assholes."
I can hold a .0005" tolerance, blah blah, you just have to take your time and have everything setup properly. OM616 knows what's up.
Bring that head over to Baltimore and I'll make what you need. I don't have a 606 head and glowplugs to measure so I can't tell you what's what. I do have chad's cracked 617a head in my back seat for traction, so I can get you any info on that ho.
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617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
02-13-2013, 04:30 PM #8Shit son, let me lay it down for you. Any fabrication shop with an old guy and a manual machine. Or an engine rebuilding shop that's an absolute mess with 10 spare blocks just laying around....those kind of places. The ones where the machinist wants to hear about your project. Also the baja shop at RIT, hard to find kids these days that will make crap from scratch though.
I can hold a .0005" tolerance, blah blah, you just have to take your time and have everything setup properly. OM616 knows what's up.
Bring that head over to Baltimore and I'll make what you need. I don't have a 606 head and glowplugs to measure so I can't tell you what's what. I do have chad's cracked 617a head in my back seat for traction, so I can get you any info on that ho.
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617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
i have to find the parts best suited/valves drop it off and he will make it happen . if there is room for another mm. if i was down in baltimore id bring it your way but im in MA . id buy that motor you put allt that work into
simpler As far as a machine shop , im working on a Alda cap egr plate/blank , waste gate flange . a good friend of mine is helping me there . so as far as machining , i could only see having to cut/thread/dowel , longer valve stems (LS) fit new guides. as well as make new spring retainers and lock nuts . so competent there too , i can hand him anything and he could recreate it
thats re-engineering the valve train . benefits of lighter materials etc but lets be real for now , i was just hoping that some older merc had slightly larger valves with the same stems.
i try not to overload him with stuff as im not paying for machine time , just his when he has it.
As far as competent, his dad opened the shop like 80 years ago. not really a "race shop" though . so ill have to balance/line hone/etc else where . i think ill just have a nice cut done . your pics were great , the one where you could actually see the pre-chamber ports was nice . it looked like theirs not very much room to open the seats up for a bigger valve is all i meant.
i have to find the parts best suited/valves drop it off and he will make it happen . if there is room for another mm. if i was down in baltimore id bring it your way but im in MA . id buy that motor you put allt that work into simpler
As far as a machine shop , im working on a Alda cap egr plate/blank , waste gate flange . a good friend of mine is helping me there . so as far as machining , i could only see having to cut/thread/dowel , longer valve stems (LS) fit new guides. as well as make new spring retainers and lock nuts . so competent there too , i can hand him anything and he could recreate it
thats re-engineering the valve train . benefits of lighter materials etc but lets be real for now , i was just hoping that some older merc had slightly larger valves with the same stems.
i try not to overload him with stuff as im not paying for machine time , just his when he has it.
(02-13-2013, 04:30 PM)Simpler=Better Shit son, let me lay it down for you.
Aww snap! Theres got to be a secret society of you guys out there somewhere. Region quarterly meetings in a dark room, a lathe, and a slow chant. I don't have the means to be a member but I'd hang out form the night.
only thing I've ever cut is a rotor or drum working at the gas station in high school.
" straighten up that star on the grill, assholes."
lgreeley83
02-13-2013, 06:03 PM #10(02-13-2013, 04:30 PM)Simpler=Better Shit son, let me lay it down for you.
Aww snap! Theres got to be a secret society of you guys out there somewhere. Region quarterly meetings in a dark room, a lathe, and a slow chant. I don't have the means to be a member but I'd hang out form the night.
only thing I've ever cut is a rotor or drum working at the gas station in high school.
" straighten up that star on the grill, assholes."
(02-13-2013, 06:03 PM)lgreeley83(02-13-2013, 04:30 PM)Simpler=Better Shit son, let me lay it down for you.
Aww snap! Theres got to be a secret society of you guys out there somewhere. Region quarterly meetings in a dark room, a lathe, and a slow chant. I don't have the means to be a member but I'd hang out form the night.
Right !, My friend is amazing , i wanna get a job sweeping floors to learn the machines,metals
(02-13-2013, 06:03 PM)lgreeley83(02-13-2013, 04:30 PM)Simpler=Better Shit son, let me lay it down for you.
Aww snap! Theres got to be a secret society of you guys out there somewhere. Region quarterly meetings in a dark room, a lathe, and a slow chant. I don't have the means to be a member but I'd hang out form the night.
Right !, My friend is amazing , i wanna get a job sweeping floors to learn the machines,metals
Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
02-13-2013, 09:45 PM #12Practice practice. Little jobs help you learn, make some aluminum spacers, turbo adapters, etc.
Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
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