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500BHP DRIFT PROJECT

500BHP DRIFT PROJECT

 
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mantahead
Holset

600
02-05-2013, 06:11 PM #1
Hi,
i started doing some work back in october on the new drift project, starting at the back and then i will work my way forward.
looking around the yard i said to myself, what backend will i use? mmm?

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subframe needs stripped, blasted, painted and poly bushed.
some HKS supra front coilovers with bottom bush.
[Image: SU1HMDEyNzYtMjAxMzAxMjktMTIyNS5qcGc_zps62010a0f.jpg]
lets sort these.
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mantahead
02-05-2013, 06:11 PM #1

Hi,
i started doing some work back in october on the new drift project, starting at the back and then i will work my way forward.
looking around the yard i said to myself, what backend will i use? mmm?

[Image: SU1HMDExOTQtMjAxMjEwMjYtMTc0Ny5qcGc.jpg]
[Image: SU1HMDEyMjMtMjAxMjExMjEtMTM0Ni5qcGc_zps217adb72.jpg]
[Image: SU1HMDExNjctMjAxMjEwMTktMTM0OC5qcGc.jpg]
subframe needs stripped, blasted, painted and poly bushed.
some HKS supra front coilovers with bottom bush.
[Image: SU1HMDEyNzYtMjAxMzAxMjktMTIyNS5qcGc_zps62010a0f.jpg]
lets sort these.
[Image: SU1HMDEyNzktMjAxMzAxMjktMTQ1Ny5qcGc_zps11269533.jpg]
[Image: SU1HMDEyODUtMjAxMzAxMjktMTUzOS5qcGc_zpsd52902ca.jpg]
[Image: SU1HMDEyOTUtMjAxMzAxMzEtMDkwOS5qcGc_zps3a26a4fd.jpg]
[Image: SU1HMDEyOTctMjAxMzAxMzEtMDkxOS5qcGc_zpsc68a1bdf.jpg]
[Image: SU1HMDEyODktMjAxMzAxMzAtMTAzMS5qcGc_zps134489df.jpg]

Simpler=Better
PORTED HEAD

2,127
02-05-2013, 08:14 PM #2
I like it!

Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
02-05-2013, 08:14 PM #2

I like it!


Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?

mantahead
Holset

600
02-06-2013, 04:15 PM #3
(02-05-2013, 08:14 PM)Simpler=Better I like it!
thanks, some stripping done today.

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mantahead
02-06-2013, 04:15 PM #3

(02-05-2013, 08:14 PM)Simpler=Better I like it!
thanks, some stripping done today.

[Image: SU1HMDEzMTAtMjAxMzAyMDYtMTY0NS5qcGc_zps53507b6d.jpg]

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w123love
Stockish

354
02-06-2013, 09:13 PM #4
Woooo that looks like fun!

if it don’t blow black...take it back.

1982 300TDT 4 Speed 196K Standard Beige “VEGEWGN”. 300GD FW. Walbro FRC-8 Fuel Pump. ZadaTech LCD Boost, EGT, & Fuel Pressure gauge. Non-EGR Exhaust and Intake Manifold. 3/2 Valves gone. Soon to have Elsbett WVO conversion
1981 300D 314K Midnight Blue “The Blue Car”, Lovecrap system, owned 25 years+
1985 300TD White 198K “Betty White” Pure beauty

The VEGEWGN
w123love
02-06-2013, 09:13 PM #4

Woooo that looks like fun!


if it don’t blow black...take it back.

1982 300TDT 4 Speed 196K Standard Beige “VEGEWGN”. 300GD FW. Walbro FRC-8 Fuel Pump. ZadaTech LCD Boost, EGT, & Fuel Pressure gauge. Non-EGR Exhaust and Intake Manifold. 3/2 Valves gone. Soon to have Elsbett WVO conversion
1981 300D 314K Midnight Blue “The Blue Car”, Lovecrap system, owned 25 years+
1985 300TD White 198K “Betty White” Pure beauty

The VEGEWGN

mantahead
Holset

600
02-07-2013, 06:22 PM #5
big 6 with mr eaton m112.

not much room down the side of engine for pipework, with inner wing.
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don't know about up top,
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any suggestions?
This post was last modified: 02-07-2013, 06:23 PM by mantahead.
mantahead
02-07-2013, 06:22 PM #5

big 6 with mr eaton m112.

not much room down the side of engine for pipework, with inner wing.
[Image: SU1HMDExNDgtMjAxMjEwMTItMTgwNS5qcGc_zps93759b1d.jpg]

don't know about up top,
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any suggestions?

Simpler=Better
PORTED HEAD

2,127
02-08-2013, 07:43 AM #6
I would put it on the side and run stiff motor mounts

Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
02-08-2013, 07:43 AM #6

I would put it on the side and run stiff motor mounts


Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?

mantahead
Holset

600
02-08-2013, 05:47 PM #7
(02-08-2013, 07:43 AM)Simpler=Better I would put it on the side and run stiff motor mounts
superchargers are not very common over here and parts etc, do you know if there is a shorter snout for the m112? and where and how much? it would keep it forward and away from the shock mount there on the inner wing you can see in the pic.
mantahead
02-08-2013, 05:47 PM #7

(02-08-2013, 07:43 AM)Simpler=Better I would put it on the side and run stiff motor mounts
superchargers are not very common over here and parts etc, do you know if there is a shorter snout for the m112? and where and how much? it would keep it forward and away from the shock mount there on the inner wing you can see in the pic.

Ksteen2
Holset

304
02-14-2013, 04:22 AM #8
The M112 is deliverd on many cars, for AMG mercs to
Big growly amcar V8's, I would start my search
On Ebay, and why M112 not M90?
They can be ported so you get 1,5 bar att 1500rpm
So it will be a overkill I think with something
Bigger?
That's just my opinon tho Wink
Nice prodject anyhow Wink
This post was last modified: 02-14-2013, 04:22 AM by Ksteen2.
Ksteen2
02-14-2013, 04:22 AM #8

The M112 is deliverd on many cars, for AMG mercs to
Big growly amcar V8's, I would start my search
On Ebay, and why M112 not M90?
They can be ported so you get 1,5 bar att 1500rpm
So it will be a overkill I think with something
Bigger?
That's just my opinon tho Wink
Nice prodject anyhow Wink

mantahead
Holset

600
02-14-2013, 06:51 AM #9
(02-14-2013, 04:22 AM)Ksteen2 The M112 is deliverd on many cars, for AMG mercs to
Big growly amcar V8's, I would start my search
On Ebay, and why M112 not M90?
They can be ported so you get 1,5 bar att 1500rpm
So it will be a overkill I think with something
Bigger?
That's just my opinon tho Wink
Nice prodject anyhow Wink

i have the m112 now so i have to use it. i thought it might be better than m90. It must be a lot longer.
the problem i'm having is the length, if i keep it down low on the block under the steering pump, the engine mount is in the way, by the time i fit the air intake at the back it will be close to the starterSad
its looking like it may have to go on topHuh
mantahead
02-14-2013, 06:51 AM #9

(02-14-2013, 04:22 AM)Ksteen2 The M112 is deliverd on many cars, for AMG mercs to
Big growly amcar V8's, I would start my search
On Ebay, and why M112 not M90?
They can be ported so you get 1,5 bar att 1500rpm
So it will be a overkill I think with something
Bigger?
That's just my opinon tho Wink
Nice prodject anyhow Wink

i have the m112 now so i have to use it. i thought it might be better than m90. It must be a lot longer.
the problem i'm having is the length, if i keep it down low on the block under the steering pump, the engine mount is in the way, by the time i fit the air intake at the back it will be close to the starterSad
its looking like it may have to go on topHuh

raysorenson
Superturbo

1,162
02-14-2013, 07:36 AM #10
The OE equipped M112 motors that I've seen have a separate belt for the SC. It sits in front of the accessory drive belt, requiring the long snout.
Have you thought about using nitrous instead?
raysorenson
02-14-2013, 07:36 AM #10

The OE equipped M112 motors that I've seen have a separate belt for the SC. It sits in front of the accessory drive belt, requiring the long snout.
Have you thought about using nitrous instead?

mantahead
Holset

600
02-14-2013, 09:41 AM #11
(02-14-2013, 07:36 AM)raysorenson The OE equipped M112 motors that I've seen have a separate belt for the SC. It sits in front of the accessory drive belt, requiring the long snout.
Have you thought about using nitrous instead?
maybe some nitrous as wellTongue
mantahead
02-14-2013, 09:41 AM #11

(02-14-2013, 07:36 AM)raysorenson The OE equipped M112 motors that I've seen have a separate belt for the SC. It sits in front of the accessory drive belt, requiring the long snout.
Have you thought about using nitrous instead?
maybe some nitrous as wellTongue

brynton
Naturally-aspirated

17
02-14-2013, 01:49 PM #12
Hi wayne, i have bought the same charger, and my problem is that im using an OM605 which is even shorter :0(

I have found out that the snouts on m90's are inter changable so you can get a real short snout.

The problem is trying to find a snout on its own with out the rest of the charger with out spending another couple of hundred quid.

The other slight issue is the M112 has the mounting points on the snout, and you would have to fab a bracket to hang off from somewhere round the snouts bottom bolt holes.

Bryn
brynton
02-14-2013, 01:49 PM #12

Hi wayne, i have bought the same charger, and my problem is that im using an OM605 which is even shorter :0(

I have found out that the snouts on m90's are inter changable so you can get a real short snout.

The problem is trying to find a snout on its own with out the rest of the charger with out spending another couple of hundred quid.

The other slight issue is the M112 has the mounting points on the snout, and you would have to fab a bracket to hang off from somewhere round the snouts bottom bolt holes.

Bryn

mantahead
Holset

600
02-14-2013, 03:47 PM #13
thanks Bryn,
are you running turbo as well, what turbo?
yea, you have less room than me, what body of car?
i might have to mount her up top, track car, not so pretty.
if it wasn't for the engine mount i could work it.

just seen your thread w202.
This post was last modified: 02-14-2013, 03:51 PM by mantahead.
mantahead
02-14-2013, 03:47 PM #13

thanks Bryn,
are you running turbo as well, what turbo?
yea, you have less room than me, what body of car?
i might have to mount her up top, track car, not so pretty.
if it wasn't for the engine mount i could work it.

just seen your thread w202.

willbhere4u
Six in a row make her go!

2,507
02-14-2013, 05:07 PM #14
Mount it where the intake manifold goes stick the snout out where the fuel filter goes! and make a custom intake manifold
This post was last modified: 02-14-2013, 05:08 PM by willbhere4u.

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
02-14-2013, 05:07 PM #14

Mount it where the intake manifold goes stick the snout out where the fuel filter goes! and make a custom intake manifold


1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

OM616
10mm MW

572
02-14-2013, 05:44 PM #15
There is enough meat in the snout to cut it down and machine the bearing and seal pocket. I have done this with a M90.

I have a couple of GMC 4-71 and 6-71 blowers available that will surely provide enough air LOL... Plus, they could be under driven.
This post was last modified: 02-14-2013, 05:45 PM by OM616.
OM616
02-14-2013, 05:44 PM #15

There is enough meat in the snout to cut it down and machine the bearing and seal pocket. I have done this with a M90.

I have a couple of GMC 4-71 and 6-71 blowers available that will surely provide enough air LOL... Plus, they could be under driven.

mantahead
Holset

600
02-15-2013, 06:12 PM #16
(02-14-2013, 05:07 PM)willbhere4u Mount it where the intake manifold goes stick the snout out where the fuel filter goes! and make a custom intake manifold
hi, i think you have it. thanks. i was always thinking of the manifold and didn't think of the obvious.

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think that spring will hold it.Big GrinBig Grin


thanks also om616, would rather it fitted without machining, have you any idea how much i could shorten it by by machining?
mantahead
02-15-2013, 06:12 PM #16

(02-14-2013, 05:07 PM)willbhere4u Mount it where the intake manifold goes stick the snout out where the fuel filter goes! and make a custom intake manifold
hi, i think you have it. thanks. i was always thinking of the manifold and didn't think of the obvious.

[Image: SU1HMDEzMzYtMjAxMzAyMTUtMTcxNC5qcGc_zps3477417c.jpg]

[Image: SU1HMDEzMzctMjAxMzAyMTUtMTcxNC5qcGc_zps068f5c70.jpg]

think that spring will hold it.Big GrinBig Grin


thanks also om616, would rather it fitted without machining, have you any idea how much i could shorten it by by machining?

willbhere4u
Six in a row make her go!

2,507
02-15-2013, 06:56 PM #17
looks good!

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
02-15-2013, 06:56 PM #17

looks good!


1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

brynton
Naturally-aspirated

17
02-16-2013, 02:06 PM #18
Hi Wayne, I currently have a kkk from a mercedes lorry but i fear that it will now be too small, once coupled with the M112

I am following black smoke racings delevopment and can get a cheap (less than half the price than the uk) hx52 that requires a rebuild from the states, but the shipping is quite expensive.

they run a modified hx52, along with a custom intake (these pics are from a write up a few months ago)

   

a modified charger belt that is toothed instead of ribbed (better grip i assume)

   

the M90 feeds the turbo directly (via a large plastic valve) and runs approx 50 psi

   

Im not sure if the hx52 is too big, considering the om605 is a full 500 smaller than the om606, so wont have as much flow, so maybe an hx40 should do

It will be in a w202 the same as yours.

as for space, i am doing away with the AC pump, and using the bolt holes on the block to help create the base for a solid mount

(om616, when you shortened your snout, did you shorten the pulley side of the shaft, or the end that the coupler attatches too??)

I would like to keep it a daily driver, and also TRY to keep the electronic pump, too, with some software changes.
Jemmu has a friend who has a 605 running Karala software, so maybe that is an option
This post was last modified: 02-16-2013, 02:07 PM by brynton.
brynton
02-16-2013, 02:06 PM #18

Hi Wayne, I currently have a kkk from a mercedes lorry but i fear that it will now be too small, once coupled with the M112

I am following black smoke racings delevopment and can get a cheap (less than half the price than the uk) hx52 that requires a rebuild from the states, but the shipping is quite expensive.

they run a modified hx52, along with a custom intake (these pics are from a write up a few months ago)

   

a modified charger belt that is toothed instead of ribbed (better grip i assume)

   

the M90 feeds the turbo directly (via a large plastic valve) and runs approx 50 psi

   

Im not sure if the hx52 is too big, considering the om605 is a full 500 smaller than the om606, so wont have as much flow, so maybe an hx40 should do

It will be in a w202 the same as yours.

as for space, i am doing away with the AC pump, and using the bolt holes on the block to help create the base for a solid mount

(om616, when you shortened your snout, did you shorten the pulley side of the shaft, or the end that the coupler attatches too??)

I would like to keep it a daily driver, and also TRY to keep the electronic pump, too, with some software changes.
Jemmu has a friend who has a 605 running Karala software, so maybe that is an option

Ksteen2
Holset

304
02-16-2013, 08:56 PM #19
If you look at EDH_performance's thread,
You ser how he mounted the SC.
I think that's the way for you to go
Also Wink
I'll be mounting his Old SC in my W123 Wink
And I'll be using a BW KKK 31 in my car,
From a MAN TGX 540 Wink
Ksteen2
02-16-2013, 08:56 PM #19

If you look at EDH_performance's thread,
You ser how he mounted the SC.
I think that's the way for you to go
Also Wink
I'll be mounting his Old SC in my W123 Wink
And I'll be using a BW KKK 31 in my car,
From a MAN TGX 540 Wink

mantahead
Holset

600
03-12-2013, 05:37 AM #20
my new clutch and pressure plate.
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mantahead
03-12-2013, 05:37 AM #20

my new clutch and pressure plate.
[Image: SU1HMDEzNzItMjAxMzAzMTItMTAzMy5qcGc_zpsad32dcd8.jpg]


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Ksteen2
Holset

304
03-12-2013, 06:52 AM #21
clutch disk and pressure plate from BMW?

1#
Volvo 940 estate 1995
Originaly a d24tic
Changed to OM606.962 From the old 81 Benz
4" dp, 3,5" stainless from DP out.
8mm dieselmeken pump att 180cc
BW kkk K29 turbo, 15cm hot side
home made flywheel with sachs 765PP and original mercedes 240mm organic disc  
6speed cdi box
4,5" humongus cooler
Please wait, loading boost
Ksteen2
03-12-2013, 06:52 AM #21

clutch disk and pressure plate from BMW?


1#
Volvo 940 estate 1995
Originaly a d24tic
Changed to OM606.962 From the old 81 Benz
4" dp, 3,5" stainless from DP out.
8mm dieselmeken pump att 180cc
BW kkk K29 turbo, 15cm hot side
home made flywheel with sachs 765PP and original mercedes 240mm organic disc  
6speed cdi box
4,5" humongus cooler
Please wait, loading boost

mantahead
Holset

600
03-12-2013, 07:08 AM #22
yea, its from kl racing, e34 m5 with 765 sachs race pressure plate.

need to sort out my flywheel, (EDH PERFORMANCE) styleBig Grin
mantahead
03-12-2013, 07:08 AM #22

yea, its from kl racing, e34 m5 with 765 sachs race pressure plate.

need to sort out my flywheel, (EDH PERFORMANCE) styleBig Grin

Ksteen2
Holset

304
03-12-2013, 05:16 PM #23
Aha, I'll going to do mine EDH style my self to ;p

1#
Volvo 940 estate 1995
Originaly a d24tic
Changed to OM606.962 From the old 81 Benz
4" dp, 3,5" stainless from DP out.
8mm dieselmeken pump att 180cc
BW kkk K29 turbo, 15cm hot side
home made flywheel with sachs 765PP and original mercedes 240mm organic disc  
6speed cdi box
4,5" humongus cooler
Please wait, loading boost
Ksteen2
03-12-2013, 05:16 PM #23

Aha, I'll going to do mine EDH style my self to ;p


1#
Volvo 940 estate 1995
Originaly a d24tic
Changed to OM606.962 From the old 81 Benz
4" dp, 3,5" stainless from DP out.
8mm dieselmeken pump att 180cc
BW kkk K29 turbo, 15cm hot side
home made flywheel with sachs 765PP and original mercedes 240mm organic disc  
6speed cdi box
4,5" humongus cooler
Please wait, loading boost

mantahead
Holset

600
03-12-2013, 06:03 PM #24
nice one.

removed front bottom arm and did some extending.
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mantahead
03-12-2013, 06:03 PM #24

nice one.

removed front bottom arm and did some extending.
[Image: SU1HMDEzNzgtMjAxMzAzMTItMTg0Mi5qcGc_zps439dc209.jpg]
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Ksteen2
Holset

304
03-13-2013, 02:58 AM #25
Is that just for more camber and looks, or actually for more lock to lock steering?

1#
Volvo 940 estate 1995
Originaly a d24tic
Changed to OM606.962 From the old 81 Benz
4" dp, 3,5" stainless from DP out.
8mm dieselmeken pump att 180cc
BW kkk K29 turbo, 15cm hot side
home made flywheel with sachs 765PP and original mercedes 240mm organic disc  
6speed cdi box
4,5" humongus cooler
Please wait, loading boost
Ksteen2
03-13-2013, 02:58 AM #25

Is that just for more camber and looks, or actually for more lock to lock steering?


1#
Volvo 940 estate 1995
Originaly a d24tic
Changed to OM606.962 From the old 81 Benz
4" dp, 3,5" stainless from DP out.
8mm dieselmeken pump att 180cc
BW kkk K29 turbo, 15cm hot side
home made flywheel with sachs 765PP and original mercedes 240mm organic disc  
6speed cdi box
4,5" humongus cooler
Please wait, loading boost

mantahead
Holset

600
03-13-2013, 04:50 AM #26
more camber and more lock, it leaves the track rod end somewhere to go when on full lock, so it doesnt hit the arm.
mantahead
03-13-2013, 04:50 AM #26

more camber and more lock, it leaves the track rod end somewhere to go when on full lock, so it doesnt hit the arm.

OM616
10mm MW

572
03-13-2013, 11:10 AM #27
(02-16-2013, 02:06 PM)brynton (om616, when you shortened your snout, did you shorten the pulley side of the shaft, or the end that the coupler attatches too??)

Here is a pic of the nose. I do not remember which end of the shaft I cut. I did that about 5 years ago. It will be obvious which end you have to cut down though.

   
OM616
03-13-2013, 11:10 AM #27

(02-16-2013, 02:06 PM)brynton (om616, when you shortened your snout, did you shorten the pulley side of the shaft, or the end that the coupler attatches too??)

Here is a pic of the nose. I do not remember which end of the shaft I cut. I did that about 5 years ago. It will be obvious which end you have to cut down though.

   

Ksteen2
Holset

304
03-14-2013, 04:19 AM #28
aha, cool, keep up the good work Wink

1#
Volvo 940 estate 1995
Originaly a d24tic
Changed to OM606.962 From the old 81 Benz
4" dp, 3,5" stainless from DP out.
8mm dieselmeken pump att 180cc
BW kkk K29 turbo, 15cm hot side
home made flywheel with sachs 765PP and original mercedes 240mm organic disc  
6speed cdi box
4,5" humongus cooler
Please wait, loading boost
Ksteen2
03-14-2013, 04:19 AM #28

aha, cool, keep up the good work Wink


1#
Volvo 940 estate 1995
Originaly a d24tic
Changed to OM606.962 From the old 81 Benz
4" dp, 3,5" stainless from DP out.
8mm dieselmeken pump att 180cc
BW kkk K29 turbo, 15cm hot side
home made flywheel with sachs 765PP and original mercedes 240mm organic disc  
6speed cdi box
4,5" humongus cooler
Please wait, loading boost

mantahead
Holset

600
03-14-2013, 06:50 PM #29
more lock is not so easy, hub hitting my arm extension, so i cut the side of the tubing to see what i can achieve.
[Image: SU1HMDE0MDAtMjAxMzAzMTQtMTgzMC5qcGc_zps2775a5a7.jpg]

also trimmed away the lip on the side of the arm to leave more room for track rod end and tyre.
[Image: SU1HMDE0MDAtMjAxMzAzMTQtMTgzMC5qcGc_zps2775a5a7.jpg]
mantahead
03-14-2013, 06:50 PM #29

more lock is not so easy, hub hitting my arm extension, so i cut the side of the tubing to see what i can achieve.
[Image: SU1HMDE0MDAtMjAxMzAzMTQtMTgzMC5qcGc_zps2775a5a7.jpg]

also trimmed away the lip on the side of the arm to leave more room for track rod end and tyre.
[Image: SU1HMDE0MDAtMjAxMzAzMTQtMTgzMC5qcGc_zps2775a5a7.jpg]

Simpler=Better
PORTED HEAD

2,127
03-15-2013, 06:20 AM #30
Lookin' good Smile

Will the shock bolt get in your way?

Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
03-15-2013, 06:20 AM #30

Lookin' good Smile

Will the shock bolt get in your way?


Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?

mantahead
Holset

600
03-15-2013, 06:01 PM #31
(03-15-2013, 06:20 AM)Simpler=Better Lookin' good Smile

Will the shock bolt get in your way?
no, shock bolt is ok, hub just hits arm.
think i'm gonna have to rethink the whole thing, its not working the way i want it to.
after all this grief i'm only gaining about 1 inch more lock at the hub.Angry
mantahead
03-15-2013, 06:01 PM #31

(03-15-2013, 06:20 AM)Simpler=Better Lookin' good Smile

Will the shock bolt get in your way?
no, shock bolt is ok, hub just hits arm.
think i'm gonna have to rethink the whole thing, its not working the way i want it to.
after all this grief i'm only gaining about 1 inch more lock at the hub.Angry

mantahead
Holset

600
03-19-2013, 07:40 AM #32
steering lock sorted.
[Image: SU1HMDE0MDctMjAxMzAzMTktMTIzNi5qcGc_zpsb58c017b.jpg]
[Image: SU1HMDE0MDYtMjAxMzAzMTktMTIzNS5qcGc_zpsc9e4928c.jpg]
[Image: SU1HMDE0MDgtMjAxMzAzMTktMTIzNi5qcGc_zpsc7b5039c.jpg]
mantahead
03-19-2013, 07:40 AM #32

steering lock sorted.
[Image: SU1HMDE0MDctMjAxMzAzMTktMTIzNi5qcGc_zpsb58c017b.jpg]
[Image: SU1HMDE0MDYtMjAxMzAzMTktMTIzNS5qcGc_zpsc9e4928c.jpg]
[Image: SU1HMDE0MDgtMjAxMzAzMTktMTIzNi5qcGc_zpsc7b5039c.jpg]

Ksteen2
Holset

304
03-19-2013, 07:48 AM #33
shit :o
you can drive backwards, your a ambisous man :p

1#
Volvo 940 estate 1995
Originaly a d24tic
Changed to OM606.962 From the old 81 Benz
4" dp, 3,5" stainless from DP out.
8mm dieselmeken pump att 180cc
BW kkk K29 turbo, 15cm hot side
home made flywheel with sachs 765PP and original mercedes 240mm organic disc  
6speed cdi box
4,5" humongus cooler
Please wait, loading boost
Ksteen2
03-19-2013, 07:48 AM #33

shit :o
you can drive backwards, your a ambisous man :p


1#
Volvo 940 estate 1995
Originaly a d24tic
Changed to OM606.962 From the old 81 Benz
4" dp, 3,5" stainless from DP out.
8mm dieselmeken pump att 180cc
BW kkk K29 turbo, 15cm hot side
home made flywheel with sachs 765PP and original mercedes 240mm organic disc  
6speed cdi box
4,5" humongus cooler
Please wait, loading boost

HaavardPYA
GT2559V

189
03-19-2013, 10:57 AM #34
Nice! Now some pics of how you sorted it Big Grin
HaavardPYA
03-19-2013, 10:57 AM #34

Nice! Now some pics of how you sorted it Big Grin

mantahead
Holset

600
03-19-2013, 11:04 AM #35
ok, no problem.
i have some temporary welds done at the minute, i will post up some pics soon, when i take all back out to weld them up.
mantahead
03-19-2013, 11:04 AM #35

ok, no problem.
i have some temporary welds done at the minute, i will post up some pics soon, when i take all back out to weld them up.

raysorenson
Superturbo

1,162
03-19-2013, 08:44 PM #36
Wow. I can see how that could come in handy with a large slip angle.
raysorenson
03-19-2013, 08:44 PM #36

Wow. I can see how that could come in handy with a large slip angle.

mantahead
Holset

600
03-22-2013, 09:30 AM #37
(03-19-2013, 10:57 AM)HaavardPYA Nice! Now some pics of how you sorted it Big Grin

couldn't get no information on this on the web at all about steering box setups so, i worked this out(after a while)Big Grin

[Image: SU1HMDE0MTAtMjAxMzAzMjItMTIxOS5qcGc_zpsada04da9.jpg]

made it a little longerTongue

[Image: SU1HMDE0MTItMjAxMzAzMjItMTQyMi5qcGc_zps8b041c4d.jpg]
mantahead
03-22-2013, 09:30 AM #37

(03-19-2013, 10:57 AM)HaavardPYA Nice! Now some pics of how you sorted it Big Grin

couldn't get no information on this on the web at all about steering box setups so, i worked this out(after a while)Big Grin

[Image: SU1HMDE0MTAtMjAxMzAzMjItMTIxOS5qcGc_zpsada04da9.jpg]

made it a little longerTongue

[Image: SU1HMDE0MTItMjAxMzAzMjItMTQyMi5qcGc_zps8b041c4d.jpg]

Simpler=Better
PORTED HEAD

2,127
03-22-2013, 10:13 AM #38
(03-22-2013, 09:30 AM)mantahead
(03-19-2013, 10:57 AM)HaavardPYA Nice! Now some pics of how you sorted it Big Grin

couldn't get no information on this on the web at all about steering box setups so, i worked this out(after a while)Big Grin

made it a little longerTongue

[Image: SU1HMDE0MTItMjAxMzAzMjItMTQyMi5qcGc_zps8b041c4d.jpg]

I love your cut and reweld approach. I see lots of people spending hours looking for rare stock parts that don't exist. Needs to be longer? Cut that shit and weld some steel on it.

Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
03-22-2013, 10:13 AM #38

(03-22-2013, 09:30 AM)mantahead
(03-19-2013, 10:57 AM)HaavardPYA Nice! Now some pics of how you sorted it Big Grin

couldn't get no information on this on the web at all about steering box setups so, i worked this out(after a while)Big Grin

made it a little longerTongue

[Image: SU1HMDE0MTItMjAxMzAzMjItMTQyMi5qcGc_zps8b041c4d.jpg]

I love your cut and reweld approach. I see lots of people spending hours looking for rare stock parts that don't exist. Needs to be longer? Cut that shit and weld some steel on it.


Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?

mantahead
Holset

600
03-22-2013, 11:47 AM #39
cut the other one also.
[Image: SU1HMDE0MTQtMjAxMzAzMjItMTQ0Ny5qcGc_zpsc604dbbb.jpg]

[Image: SU1HMDE0MjEtMjAxMzAzMjItMTY0My5qcGc_zps0d786dfb.jpg]

[Image: SU1HMDE0MjAtMjAxMzAzMjItMTYwOS5qcGc_zps6ad4c44a.jpg]
This post was last modified: 03-22-2013, 11:50 AM by mantahead.
mantahead
03-22-2013, 11:47 AM #39

cut the other one also.
[Image: SU1HMDE0MTQtMjAxMzAzMjItMTQ0Ny5qcGc_zpsc604dbbb.jpg]

[Image: SU1HMDE0MjEtMjAxMzAzMjItMTY0My5qcGc_zps0d786dfb.jpg]


[Image: SU1HMDE0MjAtMjAxMzAzMjItMTYwOS5qcGc_zps6ad4c44a.jpg]

raysorenson
Superturbo

1,162
03-22-2013, 01:09 PM #40
I'm planning on welding a pitman arm to fit an aluminum fast ratio 16v steering gear to my w124. Did you preheat the arms and slow cool them?
raysorenson
03-22-2013, 01:09 PM #40

I'm planning on welding a pitman arm to fit an aluminum fast ratio 16v steering gear to my w124. Did you preheat the arms and slow cool them?

mantahead
Holset

600
03-22-2013, 04:13 PM #41
yep, i left it in front of the space heater for about 45mins after welding and kept moving it back graduallyBig Grin
mantahead
03-22-2013, 04:13 PM #41

yep, i left it in front of the space heater for about 45mins after welding and kept moving it back graduallyBig Grin

MFSuper90
Budget Builder

1,533
03-22-2013, 10:55 PM #42
You could turn sharp enough to cut doughnuts without spinning! Big Grin

'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         
MFSuper90
03-22-2013, 10:55 PM #42

You could turn sharp enough to cut doughnuts without spinning! Big Grin


'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         

Ksteen2
Holset

304
03-25-2013, 03:47 AM #43
awesome Wink
how much did you extend it?

1#
Volvo 940 estate 1995
Originaly a d24tic
Changed to OM606.962 From the old 81 Benz
4" dp, 3,5" stainless from DP out.
8mm dieselmeken pump att 180cc
BW kkk K29 turbo, 15cm hot side
home made flywheel with sachs 765PP and original mercedes 240mm organic disc  
6speed cdi box
4,5" humongus cooler
Please wait, loading boost
Ksteen2
03-25-2013, 03:47 AM #43

awesome Wink
how much did you extend it?


1#
Volvo 940 estate 1995
Originaly a d24tic
Changed to OM606.962 From the old 81 Benz
4" dp, 3,5" stainless from DP out.
8mm dieselmeken pump att 180cc
BW kkk K29 turbo, 15cm hot side
home made flywheel with sachs 765PP and original mercedes 240mm organic disc  
6speed cdi box
4,5" humongus cooler
Please wait, loading boost

mantahead
Holset

600
03-25-2013, 04:54 AM #44
(03-25-2013, 03:47 AM)Ksteen2 awesome Wink
how much did you extend it?
not muchBig Grin
15mm
mantahead
03-25-2013, 04:54 AM #44

(03-25-2013, 03:47 AM)Ksteen2 awesome Wink
how much did you extend it?
not muchBig Grin
15mm

HaavardPYA
GT2559V

189
03-25-2013, 02:44 PM #45
But when you extended the arm ther you are running standard hubs and spindles?Smile
HaavardPYA
03-25-2013, 02:44 PM #45

But when you extended the arm ther you are running standard hubs and spindles?Smile

Ksteen2
Holset

304
03-26-2013, 03:22 AM #46
heah, and original merch has holy crap of turn angle, what would it be now??
like WTF?!?! steereng angle? :p

1#
Volvo 940 estate 1995
Originaly a d24tic
Changed to OM606.962 From the old 81 Benz
4" dp, 3,5" stainless from DP out.
8mm dieselmeken pump att 180cc
BW kkk K29 turbo, 15cm hot side
home made flywheel with sachs 765PP and original mercedes 240mm organic disc  
6speed cdi box
4,5" humongus cooler
Please wait, loading boost
Ksteen2
03-26-2013, 03:22 AM #46

heah, and original merch has holy crap of turn angle, what would it be now??
like WTF?!?! steereng angle? :p


1#
Volvo 940 estate 1995
Originaly a d24tic
Changed to OM606.962 From the old 81 Benz
4" dp, 3,5" stainless from DP out.
8mm dieselmeken pump att 180cc
BW kkk K29 turbo, 15cm hot side
home made flywheel with sachs 765PP and original mercedes 240mm organic disc  
6speed cdi box
4,5" humongus cooler
Please wait, loading boost

Simpler=Better
PORTED HEAD

2,127
03-26-2013, 09:29 AM #47
Hey run it until it breaks, and then rebuild it stronger Smile

Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
03-26-2013, 09:29 AM #47

Hey run it until it breaks, and then rebuild it stronger Smile


Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?

mantahead
Holset

600
03-26-2013, 05:32 PM #48
(03-25-2013, 02:44 PM)HaavardPYA But when you extended the arm ther you are running standard hubs and spindles?Smile
hi,
hubs are modified, knuckles that track rod end goes into moved closer to centre on hub. welded them on at the right angle to keep ackerman angle.
had to grind some material away to stop hub hitting bottom wishbone.
haven't got them finished yet.

(03-26-2013, 03:22 AM)Ksteen2 heah, and original merch has holy crap of turn angle, what would it be now??
like WTF?!?! steereng angle? :p
hi,
i put it on angle gauges and i have 55 degrees at the minute.
maybe i will get some more.Big Grin

I need some help guys,
does anyone know what vehicle has longer track rod ends than the w202 but the same thread. i need some longer ones for my car, about 2inches longer, thread is m12x1.5 female thread.
or is there an adapter i can buy, male and female
This post was last modified: 03-27-2013, 07:31 AM by mantahead.
mantahead
03-26-2013, 05:32 PM #48

(03-25-2013, 02:44 PM)HaavardPYA But when you extended the arm ther you are running standard hubs and spindles?Smile
hi,
hubs are modified, knuckles that track rod end goes into moved closer to centre on hub. welded them on at the right angle to keep ackerman angle.
had to grind some material away to stop hub hitting bottom wishbone.
haven't got them finished yet.

(03-26-2013, 03:22 AM)Ksteen2 heah, and original merch has holy crap of turn angle, what would it be now??
like WTF?!?! steereng angle? :p
hi,
i put it on angle gauges and i have 55 degrees at the minute.
maybe i will get some more.Big Grin

I need some help guys,
does anyone know what vehicle has longer track rod ends than the w202 but the same thread. i need some longer ones for my car, about 2inches longer, thread is m12x1.5 female thread.
or is there an adapter i can buy, male and female

HaavardPYA
GT2559V

189
03-27-2013, 09:24 AM #49
Aha, i see! Love to see pics of those to when you are finishedSmile This way to improve steering angle is so much better in my head than the way many driftcars use to do it!!(wisefab etc) Cool when the cars look almost as original but with many mod under the shellBig Grin
HaavardPYA
03-27-2013, 09:24 AM #49

Aha, i see! Love to see pics of those to when you are finishedSmile This way to improve steering angle is so much better in my head than the way many driftcars use to do it!!(wisefab etc) Cool when the cars look almost as original but with many mod under the shellBig Grin

mantahead
Holset

600
03-28-2013, 05:31 PM #50
[Image: w202dtmweb.jpg]
any ideas on wide arches?
how about this?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v421/A...dtmweb.jpg
mantahead
03-28-2013, 05:31 PM #50

[Image: w202dtmweb.jpg]
any ideas on wide arches?
how about this?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v421/A...dtmweb.jpg

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