STD Tuning Drivetrain 5 speed manual om617

5 speed manual om617

5 speed manual om617

 
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SurfRodder
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11-24-2013, 09:49 AM #31
(03-12-2013, 12:11 AM)kmaser Is it possible that G wagen flywheel and clutch would work with this combo, heavier flywheel stringer clutch?

Flywheel and pressure plate from the GD will work similar to his setup. The 5speed has different splines so you need to use a clutch that fits it like he did. There should be something with the correct dimensions from Sachs. I will likely make this swap when I fix my '83 as I'm pretty sure I toasted my GD clutch when I tried to stall it out on the runaway condition that killed the 617.

(03-13-2013, 01:30 PM)kmaser One more question, does the 717.411 bolt to an OM606? if that's the case you could do the same to get a 722.6 onto a 617?

Yes, might even be a bit more straight forward/easier. The only potential issue I see is if the torque converter has different bolt pattern for the flex plate. Since the crankshaft flanges are different between the engines and the torque converters are as well. Im fairly sure the input shafts are different on the autos as well, someone else will likely chime in. Likely only to prevent the use of an incorrect, older converter on newer trans. again though, there is likely a very elegant solution from another make/model that would be a direct or easily modified fit.
Then all you have to do is fork out the cash for the fancy controller for the 722.6. I hope to one day build a w201 with a turbo OM606 and 722.6 for my wife's DD, she's not too keen about daily driving a stick shift.
This post was last modified: 11-24-2013, 10:01 AM by SurfRodder.

W123 Mods: 4 speed ** manual climate control ** '85 Kalitucky intake ** manual windows & full tint ** Euro headlights retrofit w/bixenon projectors ** 4 brake light mod ** Vogtland 50mm drop front & Lesjofors S600 drop rear springs ** 16" rims ** late w126 brake spindles, rotors & calipers ** full suspension rehab ** Bilstein HDs ** AL129X alternator & 1/0 starter and charging cables ** 300GD clutch/flywheel ** AFCO 80103N radiator & Earl's 41610 oil cooler ** custom block-off plate, remote oil filter & t-stat ** MW IP w/ tomnik's 6.5mm 'Holly' elements **

S124 Mods: 400E Rear subframe ** SL600 Brakes ** Late 300E 210mm diff ** SLK230 6 speed ** 17" CLK rims ** Vented RF Fender ** Facelift Hood, Headlights, and Lower Cladding **

OBK# 62
SurfRodder
11-24-2013, 09:49 AM #31

(03-12-2013, 12:11 AM)kmaser Is it possible that G wagen flywheel and clutch would work with this combo, heavier flywheel stringer clutch?

Flywheel and pressure plate from the GD will work similar to his setup. The 5speed has different splines so you need to use a clutch that fits it like he did. There should be something with the correct dimensions from Sachs. I will likely make this swap when I fix my '83 as I'm pretty sure I toasted my GD clutch when I tried to stall it out on the runaway condition that killed the 617.

(03-13-2013, 01:30 PM)kmaser One more question, does the 717.411 bolt to an OM606? if that's the case you could do the same to get a 722.6 onto a 617?

Yes, might even be a bit more straight forward/easier. The only potential issue I see is if the torque converter has different bolt pattern for the flex plate. Since the crankshaft flanges are different between the engines and the torque converters are as well. Im fairly sure the input shafts are different on the autos as well, someone else will likely chime in. Likely only to prevent the use of an incorrect, older converter on newer trans. again though, there is likely a very elegant solution from another make/model that would be a direct or easily modified fit.
Then all you have to do is fork out the cash for the fancy controller for the 722.6. I hope to one day build a w201 with a turbo OM606 and 722.6 for my wife's DD, she's not too keen about daily driving a stick shift.


W123 Mods: 4 speed ** manual climate control ** '85 Kalitucky intake ** manual windows & full tint ** Euro headlights retrofit w/bixenon projectors ** 4 brake light mod ** Vogtland 50mm drop front & Lesjofors S600 drop rear springs ** 16" rims ** late w126 brake spindles, rotors & calipers ** full suspension rehab ** Bilstein HDs ** AL129X alternator & 1/0 starter and charging cables ** 300GD clutch/flywheel ** AFCO 80103N radiator & Earl's 41610 oil cooler ** custom block-off plate, remote oil filter & t-stat ** MW IP w/ tomnik's 6.5mm 'Holly' elements **

S124 Mods: 400E Rear subframe ** SL600 Brakes ** Late 300E 210mm diff ** SLK230 6 speed ** 17" CLK rims ** Vented RF Fender ** Facelift Hood, Headlights, and Lower Cladding **

OBK# 62

 
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5 speed manual om617 - by 5spd617 - 01-20-2013, 04:24 PM
RE: 5 speed manual om617 - by 83300d - 01-21-2013, 01:15 AM
RE: 5 speed manual om617 - by raysorenson - 01-21-2013, 10:39 AM
RE: 5 speed manual om617 - by Tmadia - 01-21-2013, 12:00 PM
RE: 5 speed manual om617 - by willbhere4u - 01-21-2013, 12:03 PM
RE: 5 speed manual om617 - by 5spd617 - 01-21-2013, 12:19 PM
RE: 5 speed manual om617 - by raysorenson - 01-21-2013, 02:30 PM
RE: 5 speed manual om617 - by 5spd617 - 01-21-2013, 03:09 PM
RE: 5 speed manual om617 - by 5spd617 - 01-22-2013, 04:06 PM
RE: 5 speed manual om617 - by sassparilla_kid - 01-22-2013, 10:02 PM
RE: 5 speed manual om617 - by Simpler=Better - 01-22-2013, 10:49 PM
RE: 5 speed manual om617 - by willbhere4u - 01-23-2013, 05:00 PM
RE: 5 speed manual om617 - by 5spd617 - 01-24-2013, 12:56 AM
RE: 5 speed manual om617 - by SurfRodder - 01-24-2013, 12:31 PM
RE: 5 speed manual om617 - by 5spd617 - 01-24-2013, 12:39 PM
RE: 5 speed manual om617 - by SurfRodder - 01-24-2013, 01:04 PM
RE: 5 speed manual om617 - by willbhere4u - 01-24-2013, 01:25 PM
RE: 5 speed manual om617 - by charmalu - 01-24-2013, 09:56 PM
RE: 5 speed manual om617 - by raysorenson - 01-24-2013, 10:39 PM
RE: 5 speed manual om617 - by JB3 - 03-13-2013, 02:14 PM
RE: 5 speed manual om617 - by lpumb3 - 01-28-2013, 08:33 AM
RE: 5 speed manual om617 - by 5spd617 - 03-04-2013, 08:26 PM
RE: 5 speed manual om617 - by kmaser - 03-12-2013, 12:11 AM
RE: 5 speed manual om617 - by SurfRodder - 11-24-2013, 09:49 AM
RE: 5 speed manual om617 - by kmaser - 03-13-2013, 01:30 PM
RE: 5 speed manual om617 - by sassparilla_kid - 03-18-2013, 10:00 PM
RE: 5 speed manual om617 - by 5spd617 - 08-27-2013, 03:28 PM
RE: 5 speed manual om617 - by Jooseppi Luna - 11-01-2013, 11:24 AM
RE: 5 speed manual om617 - by 5spd617 - 01-22-2014, 05:39 PM
RE: 5 speed manual om617 - by Simpler=Better - 11-01-2013, 12:03 PM
RE: 5 speed manual om617 - by Jooseppi Luna - 11-01-2013, 12:51 PM
RE: 5 speed manual om617 - by sassparilla_kid - 11-01-2013, 02:13 PM
RE: 5 speed manual om617 - by sassparilla_kid - 01-23-2014, 11:38 PM
RE: 5 speed manual om617 - by mike-81-240d - 01-25-2014, 02:32 AM
RE: 5 speed manual om617 - by Jooseppi Luna - 01-26-2014, 12:12 AM
RE: 5 speed manual om617 - by CRD4x4 - 01-26-2014, 01:24 PM
RE: 5 speed manual om617 - by sassparilla_kid - 01-26-2014, 01:38 PM
RE: 5 speed manual om617 - by MFSuper90 - 01-28-2014, 09:41 PM
RE: 5 speed manual om617 - by sassparilla_kid - 01-29-2014, 05:28 AM
RE: 5 speed manual om617 - by MFSuper90 - 02-03-2014, 09:26 AM
RE: 5 speed manual om617 - by JB3 - 02-03-2014, 11:55 AM
RE: 5 speed manual om617 - by MFSuper90 - 02-03-2014, 12:46 PM
RE: 5 speed manual om617 - by 5spd617 - 03-26-2014, 12:49 PM
RE: 5 speed manual om617 - by Jooseppi Luna - 03-27-2014, 09:29 PM
RE: 5 speed manual om617 - by Austincarnut - 03-28-2014, 11:10 PM
RE: 5 speed manual om617 - by sassparilla_kid - 03-28-2014, 08:52 PM
RE: 5 speed manual om617 - by charmalu - 04-04-2014, 03:08 AM
RE: 5 speed manual om617 - by mike-81-240d - 04-06-2014, 10:17 PM
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