Do you use heet?
Do you use heet?
01-20-2013, 06:52 AM
#1
'87 300TDT Silver 150K
87Bielenberg
01-20-2013, 06:52 AM #1Does anybody use Iso-Heet in their tanks? I have heard that its not good to put any alcohol in diesels. What can you use for water and condensation in the tank? What about acetone?
'87 300TDT Silver 150K
01-20-2013, 01:24 PM
#2
I also add 25 ml of acetone per every 20 gallons of fuel. But at 75 ml per 20, the engine runs noticeably rougher.
StarTron enzymatic diesel fuel treatment, is excellent for dealing with the algae which water lets grow, and I add it to my fuel as well. It only takes about 75 ml of StarTron per 20 gallons of fuel. Around here, StarTron is sold at boating supply stores, every diesel boat owner on Puget Sound uses it.
Power Service Diesel Kleen, sold at every truck stop and WalMart, is said to have ingredients which help remove water. I use about 1-1/4 quarts (1125 ml) of Diesel Kleen per every 20 gallons of fuel, but that's probably overkill, 500 ml would probably suffice. In Butte in January you will want to use the winter formula of Diesel Kleen, in the white jug (the silver jug is the summer formula). Check around for price discounts on larger jugs and drums than what you find on the shelf at the local Flying J or Town Pump or whatever they call themselves nowadays. I buy mine at a local oil filter and hydraulic lines shop, cheeeeeep.
This post was last modified: 01-20-2013, 01:26 PM by JustPassinThru.
Gone but not forgotten: two W123 sedans and two W124 wagons.
W124 1987 300TD wagon, for sale, $1000 (some assembly required).
JustPassinThru
01-20-2013, 01:24 PM #2Regular unleaded gasoline nowadays is 10% ethanol, and in my '83 300D I routinely run a WVO mixture which is 5% RUG, so that means I'm using 0.5% ethanol in my fuel --about 13 ounces of pure ethanol per every 20 gallons of fuel. Doesn't seem to harm the engine or the rubber fuel lines.
I also add 25 ml of acetone per every 20 gallons of fuel. But at 75 ml per 20, the engine runs noticeably rougher.
StarTron enzymatic diesel fuel treatment, is excellent for dealing with the algae which water lets grow, and I add it to my fuel as well. It only takes about 75 ml of StarTron per 20 gallons of fuel. Around here, StarTron is sold at boating supply stores, every diesel boat owner on Puget Sound uses it.
Power Service Diesel Kleen, sold at every truck stop and WalMart, is said to have ingredients which help remove water. I use about 1-1/4 quarts (1125 ml) of Diesel Kleen per every 20 gallons of fuel, but that's probably overkill, 500 ml would probably suffice. In Butte in January you will want to use the winter formula of Diesel Kleen, in the white jug (the silver jug is the summer formula). Check around for price discounts on larger jugs and drums than what you find on the shelf at the local Flying J or Town Pump or whatever they call themselves nowadays. I buy mine at a local oil filter and hydraulic lines shop, cheeeeeep.
Gone but not forgotten: two W123 sedans and two W124 wagons.
W124 1987 300TD wagon, for sale, $1000 (some assembly required).
01-20-2013, 11:15 PM
#3
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
sassparilla_kid
01-20-2013, 11:15 PM #325ml per 20 gallons is a drop in the bucket
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
01-20-2013, 11:53 PM
#4
(01-20-2013, 11:15 PM)sassparilla_kid 25ml per 20 gallons is a drop in the bucket
I know it's a tiny amount, but that *is* what I have found.
I mix my fuel in 4-gallon batches.
5 ml acetone (along with 100 ml turpentine) = dissolves polymerized canola oil really well, no loss in performance (actually, slight improvement, due to the cetane raising power of the turpentine).
15 ml acetone ( + 100 ml turpentine) = roughened idle.
Gone but not forgotten: two W123 sedans and two W124 wagons.
W124 1987 300TD wagon, for sale, $1000 (some assembly required).
JustPassinThru
01-20-2013, 11:53 PM #4(01-20-2013, 11:15 PM)sassparilla_kid 25ml per 20 gallons is a drop in the bucket
I know it's a tiny amount, but that *is* what I have found.
I mix my fuel in 4-gallon batches.
5 ml acetone (along with 100 ml turpentine) = dissolves polymerized canola oil really well, no loss in performance (actually, slight improvement, due to the cetane raising power of the turpentine).
15 ml acetone ( + 100 ml turpentine) = roughened idle.
Gone but not forgotten: two W123 sedans and two W124 wagons.
W124 1987 300TD wagon, for sale, $1000 (some assembly required).
01-21-2013, 10:47 AM
#5
Running a tank of straight ATF every once in a while should keep a small amount of water in check, but it's probably not best to try in a Montana winter since it's got a low cetane rating.
raysorenson
01-21-2013, 10:47 AM #5It suspect that ATF will absorb some water. I know it does when agitated. I've seen milkshake ATF sit in a container for weeks without the water ever separating.
Running a tank of straight ATF every once in a while should keep a small amount of water in check, but it's probably not best to try in a Montana winter since it's got a low cetane rating.
01-21-2013, 02:03 PM
#6
(01-21-2013, 10:47 AM)raysorenson Running a tank of straight ATF every once in a while should keep a small amount of water in check, but it's probably not best to try in a Montana winter since it's got a low cetane rating.
Straight ATF? Who does that? wouldn't that be ridiculously expensive?
I think I will put some acetone in. Just a little. What about that Sea-Foam stuff, anybody use it?
'87 300TDT Silver 150K
87Bielenberg
01-21-2013, 02:03 PM #6(01-21-2013, 10:47 AM)raysorenson Running a tank of straight ATF every once in a while should keep a small amount of water in check, but it's probably not best to try in a Montana winter since it's got a low cetane rating.
Straight ATF? Who does that? wouldn't that be ridiculously expensive?
I think I will put some acetone in. Just a little. What about that Sea-Foam stuff, anybody use it?
'87 300TDT Silver 150K
01-21-2013, 02:40 PM
#7
Most all folks running ATF use filtered waste ATF. I'm sure somebody out there only uses the new stuff though
raysorenson
01-21-2013, 02:40 PM #7Nah man, it's not too cheap if you get the crap from wal-mart.
Most all folks running ATF use filtered waste ATF. I'm sure somebody out there only uses the new stuff though
01-21-2013, 03:20 PM
#8
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
sassparilla_kid
01-21-2013, 03:20 PM #8Seafoam FTW!!!! I love that stuff
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
01-24-2013, 12:15 PM
#10
(01-21-2013, 07:00 PM)Tmadia I have had good luck with Sea Foam on gas engines. I have yet to use it on a diesel.
+1 for gas engines, esp. on older carbon caked ones...SeaFoam is pretty awesome for gas.
I have also used Star Brite (StarTron) in my boat and it seems to work well. That thing has 500+ gallons of fuel and still fires right up when I warm her up once a month. I bought it with the same fuel it has in it right now and have only used about 50 gal or so in the 8+ years Ive owned it (only made a few trips to the shipyard and back aside from the monthly maintenance). I am curently in the process of pumping the tanks out into some drums so I can replace the black iron with some poly ones and the fuel is really clean looking. That fuel is likely 20 years old and still no signs of algae, etc.
W123 Mods: 4 speed ** manual climate control ** '85 Kalitucky intake ** manual windows & full tint ** Euro headlights retrofit w/bixenon projectors ** 4 brake light mod ** Vogtland 50mm drop front & Lesjofors S600 drop rear springs ** 16" rims ** late w126 brake spindles, rotors & calipers ** full suspension rehab ** Bilstein HDs ** AL129X alternator & 1/0 starter and charging cables ** 300GD clutch/flywheel ** AFCO 80103N radiator & Earl's 41610 oil cooler ** custom block-off plate, remote oil filter & t-stat ** MW IP w/ tomnik's 6.5mm 'Holly' elements **
S124 Mods: 400E Rear subframe ** SL600 Brakes ** Late 300E 210mm diff ** SLK230 6 speed ** 17" CLK rims ** Vented RF Fender ** Facelift Hood, Headlights, and Lower Cladding **
OBK# 62
SurfRodder
01-24-2013, 12:15 PM #10(01-21-2013, 07:00 PM)Tmadia I have had good luck with Sea Foam on gas engines. I have yet to use it on a diesel.
+1 for gas engines, esp. on older carbon caked ones...SeaFoam is pretty awesome for gas.
I have also used Star Brite (StarTron) in my boat and it seems to work well. That thing has 500+ gallons of fuel and still fires right up when I warm her up once a month. I bought it with the same fuel it has in it right now and have only used about 50 gal or so in the 8+ years Ive owned it (only made a few trips to the shipyard and back aside from the monthly maintenance). I am curently in the process of pumping the tanks out into some drums so I can replace the black iron with some poly ones and the fuel is really clean looking. That fuel is likely 20 years old and still no signs of algae, etc.
W123 Mods: 4 speed ** manual climate control ** '85 Kalitucky intake ** manual windows & full tint ** Euro headlights retrofit w/bixenon projectors ** 4 brake light mod ** Vogtland 50mm drop front & Lesjofors S600 drop rear springs ** 16" rims ** late w126 brake spindles, rotors & calipers ** full suspension rehab ** Bilstein HDs ** AL129X alternator & 1/0 starter and charging cables ** 300GD clutch/flywheel ** AFCO 80103N radiator & Earl's 41610 oil cooler ** custom block-off plate, remote oil filter & t-stat ** MW IP w/ tomnik's 6.5mm 'Holly' elements **
S124 Mods: 400E Rear subframe ** SL600 Brakes ** Late 300E 210mm diff ** SLK230 6 speed ** 17" CLK rims ** Vented RF Fender ** Facelift Hood, Headlights, and Lower Cladding **
OBK# 62
01-25-2013, 10:33 AM
#11
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
01-25-2013, 10:33 AM #11You could also add a fuel water separator in line to the injection pump and drain off any water every once in a while.
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
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