STD Tuning Engine EGT's on stock fueled OM617?

EGT's on stock fueled OM617?

EGT's on stock fueled OM617?

 
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Captain America
Boostin' & Roostin'

2,221
01-17-2013, 10:04 AM #1
Anyone have numbers? I'm only hitting 750° on a LONG pull.


1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Captain America
01-17-2013, 10:04 AM #1

Anyone have numbers? I'm only hitting 750° on a LONG pull.



1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Simpler=Better
PORTED HEAD

2,127
01-17-2013, 11:35 AM #2
That's really low. With stock fueling (no ALDA), straight pipe and a VNT I could hit 1100*F on steep hills with the trailer.

Idle was around 280*F, cruising was around 500ish IIRC.
This post was last modified: 01-17-2013, 11:36 AM by Simpler=Better.

Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
01-17-2013, 11:35 AM #2

That's really low. With stock fueling (no ALDA), straight pipe and a VNT I could hit 1100*F on steep hills with the trailer.

Idle was around 280*F, cruising was around 500ish IIRC.


Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?

MFSuper90
Budget Builder

1,533
01-17-2013, 01:08 PM #3
Mine isn't stock fueling, so take it for what its worth to you. But If I am on a long long hill I can hit 1000, POST turbo. I dont ever push it farther than that, cause thats gettin pretty toasty.
This post was last modified: 01-17-2013, 01:10 PM by MFSuper90.

'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         
MFSuper90
01-17-2013, 01:08 PM #3

Mine isn't stock fueling, so take it for what its worth to you. But If I am on a long long hill I can hit 1000, POST turbo. I dont ever push it farther than that, cause thats gettin pretty toasty.


'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         

w123love
Stockish

354
01-17-2013, 01:39 PM #4
Where are you collecting your #’s from captain?

if it don’t blow black...take it back.

1982 300TDT 4 Speed 196K Standard Beige “VEGEWGN”. 300GD FW. Walbro FRC-8 Fuel Pump. ZadaTech LCD Boost, EGT, & Fuel Pressure gauge. Non-EGR Exhaust and Intake Manifold. 3/2 Valves gone. Soon to have Elsbett WVO conversion
1981 300D 314K Midnight Blue “The Blue Car”, Lovecrap system, owned 25 years+
1985 300TD White 198K “Betty White” Pure beauty

The VEGEWGN
w123love
01-17-2013, 01:39 PM #4

Where are you collecting your #’s from captain?


if it don’t blow black...take it back.

1982 300TDT 4 Speed 196K Standard Beige “VEGEWGN”. 300GD FW. Walbro FRC-8 Fuel Pump. ZadaTech LCD Boost, EGT, & Fuel Pressure gauge. Non-EGR Exhaust and Intake Manifold. 3/2 Valves gone. Soon to have Elsbett WVO conversion
1981 300D 314K Midnight Blue “The Blue Car”, Lovecrap system, owned 25 years+
1985 300TD White 198K “Betty White” Pure beauty

The VEGEWGN

sassparilla_kid
diesel > all other fuels

1,618
01-17-2013, 03:43 PM #5
Usually I can get it up to about 800*F on the freeway, I think the max I've seen it get was about 1000*F on a long uphill pull with the pedal floored. This ia with alda maxxed and boost turned up a bit, and straight pipe of course. Other than that its stock pump and non-egr manifolds. I haven't been using the water injection so no idea how that will affect things. My thermocouple thing is in the bottom of the flat spot pre-turbo, and I'm using a Sunpro gauge I got from Pep Boys

Hope that helps

-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
sassparilla_kid
01-17-2013, 03:43 PM #5

Usually I can get it up to about 800*F on the freeway, I think the max I've seen it get was about 1000*F on a long uphill pull with the pedal floored. This ia with alda maxxed and boost turned up a bit, and straight pipe of course. Other than that its stock pump and non-egr manifolds. I haven't been using the water injection so no idea how that will affect things. My thermocouple thing is in the bottom of the flat spot pre-turbo, and I'm using a Sunpro gauge I got from Pep Boys

Hope that helps


-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!

Captain America
Boostin' & Roostin'

2,221
01-17-2013, 04:21 PM #6
(01-17-2013, 01:39 PM)w123love Where are you collecting your #’s from captain?

Same spot as sassparilla kid. I idle about 250 and cruise around 450. Seems low to me too, that's why I ask. I'm using the VDO gauge I got from Rudolph and his thermo couple that he extended. T.his pump has no ADLA and no rack limiter. Other than that its stock


1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Captain America
01-17-2013, 04:21 PM #6

(01-17-2013, 01:39 PM)w123love Where are you collecting your #’s from captain?

Same spot as sassparilla kid. I idle about 250 and cruise around 450. Seems low to me too, that's why I ask. I'm using the VDO gauge I got from Rudolph and his thermo couple that he extended. T.his pump has no ADLA and no rack limiter. Other than that its stock



1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

sassparilla_kid
diesel > all other fuels

1,618
01-17-2013, 06:27 PM #7
I thought there were supposed to be crazy egt's with no rack limiter?

-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
sassparilla_kid
01-17-2013, 06:27 PM #7

I thought there were supposed to be crazy egt's with no rack limiter?


-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!

ronnie
GT2559V

179
01-17-2013, 07:44 PM #8
Just removing the rack limiter does not mean the rack will go to full travel. The governor is still holding it back some.Torque control adjustments will cause the rack to go further and then egt's can go too high.
ronnie
01-17-2013, 07:44 PM #8

Just removing the rack limiter does not mean the rack will go to full travel. The governor is still holding it back some.Torque control adjustments will cause the rack to go further and then egt's can go too high.

Simpler=Better
PORTED HEAD

2,127
01-17-2013, 08:05 PM #9
No, that's cut DV's or when you turn the screws up inside too much. No rack, but no other changes just gives you a little boost of fuel(2psi?)

Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
01-17-2013, 08:05 PM #9

No, that's cut DV's or when you turn the screws up inside too much. No rack, but no other changes just gives you a little boost of fuel(2psi?)


Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?

Captain America
Boostin' & Roostin'

2,221
01-21-2013, 03:10 AM #10
850 - 900 is all im getting out of it. Guess I have a lot of room for fuel haha


1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Captain America
01-21-2013, 03:10 AM #10

850 - 900 is all im getting out of it. Guess I have a lot of room for fuel haha



1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

led-panzer
Holset

541
01-21-2013, 08:26 AM #11
I'm in the exact same boat. Never get over 950.

1984 300D 4-speed ~200,000 miles
7.5mm M-pump, GT3582 turbo, F-Tune Performance intake/exhaust manifolds, A/A intercooler, 315 nozzles, Enlarged prechambers, Bosch 044 feed pump, Custom lightweight flywheel with 240mm clutch, Lowered, 17" AMG rims - 300 hp OM617 project
1985 300D 280,000 miles RIP
2001 F350 7.3 DP tuner, 4"exhaust, S&B intake
led-panzer
01-21-2013, 08:26 AM #11

I'm in the exact same boat. Never get over 950.


1984 300D 4-speed ~200,000 miles
7.5mm M-pump, GT3582 turbo, F-Tune Performance intake/exhaust manifolds, A/A intercooler, 315 nozzles, Enlarged prechambers, Bosch 044 feed pump, Custom lightweight flywheel with 240mm clutch, Lowered, 17" AMG rims - 300 hp OM617 project
1985 300D 280,000 miles RIP
2001 F350 7.3 DP tuner, 4"exhaust, S&B intake

 
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