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Gasifying plastic?

Gasifying plastic?

 
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sassparilla_kid
diesel > all other fuels

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12-09-2012, 08:15 PM #1
I'm just wondering if anybody has tried gasifying plastic at all? My friend just discovered it and is thinking about trying it, since he says you can buy plastic from recycling centers for just a little more than they pay for it?

Thanks

-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
sassparilla_kid
12-09-2012, 08:15 PM #1

I'm just wondering if anybody has tried gasifying plastic at all? My friend just discovered it and is thinking about trying it, since he says you can buy plastic from recycling centers for just a little more than they pay for it?

Thanks


-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!

Purplecomputer
Slowness 220D

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12-10-2012, 07:37 AM #2
(12-09-2012, 08:15 PM)sassparilla_kid I'm just wondering if anybody has tried gasifying plastic at all? My friend just discovered it and is thinking about trying it, since he says you can buy plastic from recycling centers for just a little more than they pay for it?

Thanks

whats the purpose of this?

you would probably need a lot of heat
This post was last modified: 12-10-2012, 07:38 AM by Purplecomputer.
Purplecomputer
12-10-2012, 07:37 AM #2

(12-09-2012, 08:15 PM)sassparilla_kid I'm just wondering if anybody has tried gasifying plastic at all? My friend just discovered it and is thinking about trying it, since he says you can buy plastic from recycling centers for just a little more than they pay for it?

Thanks

whats the purpose of this?

you would probably need a lot of heat

larsalan
Superturbo

1,272
12-10-2012, 02:12 PM #3
I saw large scale versions of using plastic as fuel for generators or something. I posted some stuff about 'plastic to fuel' in the alt fuel forum.
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/thread-2566.html
Is that what you're talking about?
I wouldnt mess with it at all. There were some utube videos of this backwoods guy using the sun to turn the plastic into 'diesel'
Seems kinda ridiculous.
This post was last modified: 12-10-2012, 02:13 PM by larsalan.

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Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
larsalan
12-10-2012, 02:12 PM #3

I saw large scale versions of using plastic as fuel for generators or something. I posted some stuff about 'plastic to fuel' in the alt fuel forum.
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/thread-2566.html
Is that what you're talking about?
I wouldnt mess with it at all. There were some utube videos of this backwoods guy using the sun to turn the plastic into 'diesel'
Seems kinda ridiculous.


Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'

CRD4x4
CompoundSuperTurboDiesel4x4!

399
12-10-2012, 09:05 PM #4
The science behind it is solid. A practical application of it is going to be a challenge though.
My understanding of the gasification process is that the fuel (plastic in this case) needs to be heated beyond its flash point in a pressure vessel and in the absence of oxygen. The resulting "smoke" is plumbed to a carburetor to be mixed with air and burned.
There are examples of this being done by the Germans towards the end of WWII. They converted some vehicles to run on "wood gas" using this gasification process.
Alternately, this "smoke" can be further processed by distilling the compounds to make a liquid "diesel" fuel.
I'd be very interested to hear more about it if you begin experimenting!    

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'81 MB 300TD - 195k (parting out)
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CRD4x4
12-10-2012, 09:05 PM #4

The science behind it is solid. A practical application of it is going to be a challenge though.
My understanding of the gasification process is that the fuel (plastic in this case) needs to be heated beyond its flash point in a pressure vessel and in the absence of oxygen. The resulting "smoke" is plumbed to a carburetor to be mixed with air and burned.
There are examples of this being done by the Germans towards the end of WWII. They converted some vehicles to run on "wood gas" using this gasification process.
Alternately, this "smoke" can be further processed by distilling the compounds to make a liquid "diesel" fuel.
I'd be very interested to hear more about it if you begin experimenting!    


'05 Jeep Liberty CRD - 160k
'06.5 VW Jetta TDI - 230k
'82 MB 300TD - 116k (motor going to raysorenson)
'81 MB 300TD - 195k (parting out)
'71 Jeep DJ5 - diesel conversion project

sassparilla_kid
diesel > all other fuels

1,618
12-10-2012, 09:43 PM #5
Yeah I know wood gasification is pretty easy for use in gas engines, my friend and I are looking for other alternative fuels for another project. I think the best contender right now is going to be making an anaerobic digester to turn organic waste (food scraps, cow poop, whatever) into natural gas, either to supplement home gas usage or maybe to compress into cylinders to run in cars. I know diesel engines can run on about 70/30 natural gas/diesel mix without any ill effects

-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
sassparilla_kid
12-10-2012, 09:43 PM #5

Yeah I know wood gasification is pretty easy for use in gas engines, my friend and I are looking for other alternative fuels for another project. I think the best contender right now is going to be making an anaerobic digester to turn organic waste (food scraps, cow poop, whatever) into natural gas, either to supplement home gas usage or maybe to compress into cylinders to run in cars. I know diesel engines can run on about 70/30 natural gas/diesel mix without any ill effects


-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!

 
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