4 speed auto manual swap problems
4 speed auto manual swap problems
300D auto crossmember
240D autocrossmember(supposedly)
I will have a full conversion build thread later on when Im closer to completion.
Alohas and thanks for your help
Gill P
P.S. hopefully the pics load.
So to make a long story short. I have a 79 300D that im stuffing a turbo 617 with a manual 4 speed ( full aluminum housing) in. I read around that I would need a 240D auto crossmember which I got from flebay. Today I go to mount the trans and I discover that all crossmembers (300D auto, 240D auto, 240D manual) dont fit and sit way to far back.
300D auto crossmember
240D autocrossmember(supposedly)
I will have a full conversion build thread later on when Im closer to completion.
Alohas and thanks for your help
Gill P
P.S. hopefully the pics load.
Alohas
Gill P
Also as you can see that the tunnel gets wider the closer I get to the front of the car. The crossmembers are to short to reach the holes if I go any farther forward. Moving the anchor clips wont solve the problem but I know I will have to if I find the right crossmember.
Alohas
Gill P
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617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
11-07-2012, 12:37 PM #4Can you chop things up and reweld?
Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
I was under the impression from reading numerous 4 speed swap threads that I would need a 240D auto crossmember but that didnt work out so well as you can see in the pics. Unless someone sold me the wrong mount.
Alohas
Gill P
If I where to do that I would make a custom mount and not chop up any mounts. I will have to find the proper offset of the mount and then weld up something.
I was under the impression from reading numerous 4 speed swap threads that I would need a 240D auto crossmember but that didnt work out so well as you can see in the pics. Unless someone sold me the wrong mount.
Alohas
Gill P
I found this picture comparing the mounts. The 300 auto mount has a bar attached to it for use on the 4 speed manual.
Btw- I can grab an 240d auto mount at my local yard if your interested. Pm me.
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Gota love Mercedes Diesels!
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DeliveryValve
11-07-2012, 10:45 PM #12That mount you stated that's a 240d auto mount in the second picture doesn't look like a 240d auto mount. The first pic kind of looks like it.
I found this picture comparing the mounts. The 300 auto mount has a bar attached to it for use on the 4 speed manual.
Btw- I can grab an 240d auto mount at my local yard if your interested. Pm me.
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Gota love Mercedes Diesels!
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. Thanks again for your effort DeliveryValve!!! Much appreciated.Also Im still in need of a 4 speed shifter as well anybody know how to source one or know anybody with one
Alohas
Gill P
Anybody know where I can get a Auto 240D crossmember. Delivery valve was the man and agreed to hook me up then he found out that the cars he had in mind were crushed . Thanks again for your effort DeliveryValve!!! Much appreciated.
Also Im still in need of a 4 speed shifter as well anybody know how to source one or know anybody with one
Alohas
Gill P
(11-15-2012, 02:12 PM)gill4321 Anybody know where I can get a Auto 240D crossmember. Delivery valve was the man and agreed to hook me up then he found out that the cars he had in mind were crushed
Also Im still in need of a 4 speed shifter as well anybody know how to source one or know anybody with one
Alohas
Gill P
I will prolly go to my local yards either tomorrow or friday. Ill let you know if I see any there. I'd doubt the cross member is very much, the shifter may be a little pricey tho. PM me your phone # and Ill call you if they have either.
W123 Mods: 4 speed ** manual climate control ** '85 Kalitucky intake ** manual windows & full tint ** Euro headlights retrofit w/bixenon projectors ** 4 brake light mod ** Vogtland 50mm drop front & Lesjofors S600 drop rear springs ** 16" rims ** late w126 brake spindles, rotors & calipers ** full suspension rehab ** Bilstein HDs ** AL129X alternator & 1/0 starter and charging cables ** 300GD clutch/flywheel ** AFCO 80103N radiator & Earl's 41610 oil cooler ** custom block-off plate, remote oil filter & t-stat ** MW IP w/ tomnik's 6.5mm 'Holly' elements **
S124 Mods: 400E Rear subframe ** SL600 Brakes ** Late 300E 210mm diff ** SLK230 6 speed ** 17" CLK rims ** Vented RF Fender ** Facelift Hood, Headlights, and Lower Cladding **
OBK# 62
SurfRodder
11-20-2012, 10:04 PM #14(11-15-2012, 02:12 PM)gill4321 Anybody know where I can get a Auto 240D crossmember. Delivery valve was the man and agreed to hook me up then he found out that the cars he had in mind were crushed
Also Im still in need of a 4 speed shifter as well anybody know how to source one or know anybody with one
Alohas
Gill P
I will prolly go to my local yards either tomorrow or friday. Ill let you know if I see any there. I'd doubt the cross member is very much, the shifter may be a little pricey tho. PM me your phone # and Ill call you if they have either.
W123 Mods: 4 speed ** manual climate control ** '85 Kalitucky intake ** manual windows & full tint ** Euro headlights retrofit w/bixenon projectors ** 4 brake light mod ** Vogtland 50mm drop front & Lesjofors S600 drop rear springs ** 16" rims ** late w126 brake spindles, rotors & calipers ** full suspension rehab ** Bilstein HDs ** AL129X alternator & 1/0 starter and charging cables ** 300GD clutch/flywheel ** AFCO 80103N radiator & Earl's 41610 oil cooler ** custom block-off plate, remote oil filter & t-stat ** MW IP w/ tomnik's 6.5mm 'Holly' elements **
S124 Mods: 400E Rear subframe ** SL600 Brakes ** Late 300E 210mm diff ** SLK230 6 speed ** 17" CLK rims ** Vented RF Fender ** Facelift Hood, Headlights, and Lower Cladding **
OBK# 62
So today I got my mount from Germany from the Manufacturer. Cost me only $109 wish shipping. I know its a little steep but you cant beat brand new.
Part number is 123 242 07 01 just in case the picture is crap.
Alohas everyone and I will make a new thread with the whole swap once its done. SOOOON i Hope
Alohas
Gill P
Well I ordered a mount from www.mercedespartscenter.com and they where really helpful. You usually need a VIN number for your orders but they let me slide.
So today I got my mount from Germany from the Manufacturer. Cost me only $109 wish shipping. I know its a little steep but you cant beat brand new.
Part number is 123 242 07 01 just in case the picture is crap.
Alohas everyone and I will make a new thread with the whole swap once its done. SOOOON i Hope
Alohas
Gill P
if it don’t blow black...take it back.
1982 300TDT 4 Speed 196K Standard Beige “VEGEWGN”. 300GD FW. Walbro FRC-8 Fuel Pump. ZadaTech LCD Boost, EGT, & Fuel Pressure gauge. Non-EGR Exhaust and Intake Manifold. 3/2 Valves gone. Soon to have Elsbett WVO conversion
1981 300D 314K Midnight Blue “The Blue Car”, Lovecrap system, owned 25 years+
1985 300TD White 198K “Betty White” Pure beauty
The VEGEWGN
Hey that is great. Good to know you can still order it new. Thanks for posting the part #
if it don’t blow black...take it back.
1982 300TDT 4 Speed 196K Standard Beige “VEGEWGN”. 300GD FW. Walbro FRC-8 Fuel Pump. ZadaTech LCD Boost, EGT, & Fuel Pressure gauge. Non-EGR Exhaust and Intake Manifold. 3/2 Valves gone. Soon to have Elsbett WVO conversion
1981 300D 314K Midnight Blue “The Blue Car”, Lovecrap system, owned 25 years+
1985 300TD White 198K “Betty White” Pure beauty
The VEGEWGN
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