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'84 300D Project.

 
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ilovemybike
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10-05-2012, 11:14 AM #1
Just picked up a sweet gold German thingy. Drove it from North Carolina back home to New Hampshire. Lowered it a bit, stuffed some wheels I had lying around on it, deleted the EGR, jammed a cone filter on it and now it needs some more power.

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On the road!

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On the ground!
ilovemybike
10-05-2012, 11:14 AM #1

Just picked up a sweet gold German thingy. Drove it from North Carolina back home to New Hampshire. Lowered it a bit, stuffed some wheels I had lying around on it, deleted the EGR, jammed a cone filter on it and now it needs some more power.

[Image: 554384_566598820751_1324981007_n.jpg]
On the road!

[Image: 577350_566598840711_8109075_n.jpg]

On the ground!

aaa
GT2256V

913
10-05-2012, 12:57 PM #2
Have you messed with the alda yet?
aaa
10-05-2012, 12:57 PM #2

Have you messed with the alda yet?

ilovemybike
Naturally-aspirated

11
10-05-2012, 05:37 PM #3
(10-05-2012, 12:57 PM)aaa Have you messed with the alda yet?

I have not! I'm running home heating oil, and I don't mind some black smoke, without high EGT's of course. I didn't see very clear directions in the sticky, I have the MW pump.
ilovemybike
10-05-2012, 05:37 PM #3

(10-05-2012, 12:57 PM)aaa Have you messed with the alda yet?

I have not! I'm running home heating oil, and I don't mind some black smoke, without high EGT's of course. I didn't see very clear directions in the sticky, I have the MW pump.

aaa
GT2256V

913
10-05-2012, 08:09 PM #4
Remove it and compare the smoke and performance.
aaa
10-05-2012, 08:09 PM #4

Remove it and compare the smoke and performance.

ilovemybike
Naturally-aspirated

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10-06-2012, 07:09 AM #5
Is there a thread on removing it? I'd really like to get poooowwwwwaaahhh
ilovemybike
10-06-2012, 07:09 AM #5

Is there a thread on removing it? I'd really like to get poooowwwwwaaahhh

Purplecomputer
Slowness 220D

897
10-06-2012, 08:12 AM #6
(10-06-2012, 07:09 AM)ilovemybike Is there a thread on removing it? I'd really like to get poooowwwwwaaahhh

i thought removing the ALDA was only part of the solution for more power. The injection pump should be properly tuned, no?

Also would bigger PC help him as well? now too sure about 617 compared to what i had to do with my 616
This post was last modified: 10-06-2012, 08:13 AM by Purplecomputer.
Purplecomputer
10-06-2012, 08:12 AM #6

(10-06-2012, 07:09 AM)ilovemybike Is there a thread on removing it? I'd really like to get poooowwwwwaaahhh

i thought removing the ALDA was only part of the solution for more power. The injection pump should be properly tuned, no?

Also would bigger PC help him as well? now too sure about 617 compared to what i had to do with my 616

aaa
GT2256V

913
10-06-2012, 08:41 AM #7
You remove it with a 24mm wrench and a channel locks on the square body. Removing it brings you back to stock power.
aaa
10-06-2012, 08:41 AM #7

You remove it with a 24mm wrench and a channel locks on the square body. Removing it brings you back to stock power.

larsalan
Superturbo

1,272
10-06-2012, 06:32 PM #8
(10-06-2012, 07:09 AM)ilovemybike Is there a thread on removing it? I'd really like to get poooowwwwwaaahhh

After the alda is off and the exhaust is nice and clear then there's a thread on turning up the internal stuff of the IP Wink

Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
larsalan
10-06-2012, 06:32 PM #8

(10-06-2012, 07:09 AM)ilovemybike Is there a thread on removing it? I'd really like to get poooowwwwwaaahhh

After the alda is off and the exhaust is nice and clear then there's a thread on turning up the internal stuff of the IP Wink


Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'

ilovemybike
Naturally-aspirated

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10-09-2012, 08:33 PM #9
(10-06-2012, 06:32 PM)larsalan
(10-06-2012, 07:09 AM)ilovemybike Is there a thread on removing it? I'd really like to get poooowwwwwaaahhh

After the alda is off and the exhaust is nice and clear then there's a thread on turning up the internal stuff of the IP Wink


Took the Alda off, what a lovely surprise, throttle response!! Very excited about this, it actually moves from a dead stop, albeit slowly. I'll get rid of at least one muffling device, maybe both. How loud are these hogs with a straight pipe?
ilovemybike
10-09-2012, 08:33 PM #9

(10-06-2012, 06:32 PM)larsalan
(10-06-2012, 07:09 AM)ilovemybike Is there a thread on removing it? I'd really like to get poooowwwwwaaahhh

After the alda is off and the exhaust is nice and clear then there's a thread on turning up the internal stuff of the IP Wink


Took the Alda off, what a lovely surprise, throttle response!! Very excited about this, it actually moves from a dead stop, albeit slowly. I'll get rid of at least one muffling device, maybe both. How loud are these hogs with a straight pipe?

larsalan
Superturbo

1,272
10-09-2012, 09:32 PM #10
They sound great Wink

Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
larsalan
10-09-2012, 09:32 PM #10

They sound great Wink


Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'

ilovemybike
Naturally-aspirated

11
10-11-2012, 09:09 PM #11
(10-09-2012, 09:32 PM)larsalan They sound great Wink

And you're right. Straight pipes the old girl, much better. Now about this lack of dozer dust, can I turn up the pump without pulling the injection pump? How difficult is it to remove the oil filter housing? I ordered the gaskets in case that is the hot setup.

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This post was last modified: 10-11-2012, 09:34 PM by ilovemybike.
ilovemybike
10-11-2012, 09:09 PM #11

(10-09-2012, 09:32 PM)larsalan They sound great Wink

And you're right. Straight pipes the old girl, much better. Now about this lack of dozer dust, can I turn up the pump without pulling the injection pump? How difficult is it to remove the oil filter housing? I ordered the gaskets in case that is the hot setup.

[Image: 230905_567057591371_1927268843_n.jpg]

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larsalan
Superturbo

1,272
10-11-2012, 09:48 PM #12
You are best to take the IP off. You can do that without taking off the oil filter. There are 3 bolts/stud thingies for the IP by the block and 1 bolt/nut by the filter housing. If you're lucky the one by the filter will be gone cause it's a bitch to reach. All are 13mm I think. My need to cut a wrench in half, ymmv
myb you are needing more professional advice. But here is my 2 cents.
Set the crank to that 24atdc.
And look to be sure the lobes for th cam of the front cylinder are pointing upwards.
I guess the cam shaft is turning 2 times per 1 turn of the crank? So they could be pointing downwards?
There are marks inside the IP
http://media.photobucket.com/image/recen...iptime.jpg
I spent a while ago putting my IP in and out of the block about 10-12 times in a 48hr period.

There is a whole thread on turning up the power
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/thread-189.html

you need some sockets and cut them a bit to make specialty tools Wink

Ok, so ask/wait for more experienced advice cause I admit I am a hack.
Cutting off that 70lb muffler is a step in the right direction. Glad you like the sound Wink
This post was last modified: 10-11-2012, 09:50 PM by larsalan.

Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
larsalan
10-11-2012, 09:48 PM #12

You are best to take the IP off. You can do that without taking off the oil filter. There are 3 bolts/stud thingies for the IP by the block and 1 bolt/nut by the filter housing. If you're lucky the one by the filter will be gone cause it's a bitch to reach. All are 13mm I think. My need to cut a wrench in half, ymmv
myb you are needing more professional advice. But here is my 2 cents.
Set the crank to that 24atdc.
And look to be sure the lobes for th cam of the front cylinder are pointing upwards.
I guess the cam shaft is turning 2 times per 1 turn of the crank? So they could be pointing downwards?
There are marks inside the IP
http://media.photobucket.com/image/recen...iptime.jpg
I spent a while ago putting my IP in and out of the block about 10-12 times in a 48hr period.

There is a whole thread on turning up the power
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/thread-189.html

you need some sockets and cut them a bit to make specialty tools Wink

Ok, so ask/wait for more experienced advice cause I admit I am a hack.
Cutting off that 70lb muffler is a step in the right direction. Glad you like the sound Wink


Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'

Simpler=Better
PORTED HEAD

2,127
10-12-2012, 08:28 AM #13
you're going to want a pyrometer and boost gauge before you turn the pump up. If you go too hot you can literally melt the pistons.

Install your gauges, get your boost up to 12ish psi (ymmv) and then start tweaking the pump.

If you pull the manifolds to install the pyrometer, there is not better time to give them a quick port match...also add a smooth lip to the stubby connection pipe between the turbo and manifold.

You should be able to advance your timing to 26* without knocking, and it if knocks-retard it a degree and try again.

Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
10-12-2012, 08:28 AM #13

you're going to want a pyrometer and boost gauge before you turn the pump up. If you go too hot you can literally melt the pistons.

Install your gauges, get your boost up to 12ish psi (ymmv) and then start tweaking the pump.

If you pull the manifolds to install the pyrometer, there is not better time to give them a quick port match...also add a smooth lip to the stubby connection pipe between the turbo and manifold.

You should be able to advance your timing to 26* without knocking, and it if knocks-retard it a degree and try again.


Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?

ilovemybike
Naturally-aspirated

11
11-23-2016, 07:50 AM #14
So a lot has happened since I started this thread.  I cut three coils and drove around low for awhile, which became annoying even with a plated oil pan.

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[Image: MGalleryItem.php?id=8686]

 I decided to lift the car back to at least stock height and got some used circle track coilovers.  With a little ingenuity they are in and it drives very  nicely with them.  I put the cut front springs in the rear which worked remarkably well.  The front springs are currently 500#, which is a touch firm for bumpier roads but quite nice on smooth ones.  I cut the DV's, deleted EGR, ALDA, made an intake and turned the boost up to 15PSI.  The transmission slips occasionally in second gear now, although I did a fluid change last night, we shall see how it goes now.  The original exhaust was rotted so I made a 3" aluminum system from things I had lying around.  It sounds pretty awesome.

[Image: MGalleryItem.php?id=8680][Image: MGalleryItem.php?id=8683]

I bought some Corbeau seats cheap and stuck them in.  Made a removable harness bar and added some proper seatbelts.

[Image: MGalleryItem.php?id=8685][Image: MGalleryItem.php?id=8684]Because of the trans issues I am considering a manual swap.  I have done a few Scandinavian style cut and welds before.

[Image: MGalleryItem.php?id=8682]

[Image: MGalleryItem.php?id=8681]
Here is a BMW ZF that I mated to an Audi AAN engine for a Volvo 242.  Are the bolt on transmissions worth swapping or should I make a different trans fit?

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84 300D Oil Burner
ilovemybike
11-23-2016, 07:50 AM #14

So a lot has happened since I started this thread.  I cut three coils and drove around low for awhile, which became annoying even with a plated oil pan.

[Image: MGalleryItem.php?id=8677]

[Image: MGalleryItem.php?id=8679]


[Image: MGalleryItem.php?id=8686]

 I decided to lift the car back to at least stock height and got some used circle track coilovers.  With a little ingenuity they are in and it drives very  nicely with them.  I put the cut front springs in the rear which worked remarkably well.  The front springs are currently 500#, which is a touch firm for bumpier roads but quite nice on smooth ones.  I cut the DV's, deleted EGR, ALDA, made an intake and turned the boost up to 15PSI.  The transmission slips occasionally in second gear now, although I did a fluid change last night, we shall see how it goes now.  The original exhaust was rotted so I made a 3" aluminum system from things I had lying around.  It sounds pretty awesome.

[Image: MGalleryItem.php?id=8680][Image: MGalleryItem.php?id=8683]

I bought some Corbeau seats cheap and stuck them in.  Made a removable harness bar and added some proper seatbelts.

[Image: MGalleryItem.php?id=8685][Image: MGalleryItem.php?id=8684]Because of the trans issues I am considering a manual swap.  I have done a few Scandinavian style cut and welds before.

[Image: MGalleryItem.php?id=8682]

[Image: MGalleryItem.php?id=8681]
Here is a BMW ZF that I mated to an Audi AAN engine for a Volvo 242.  Are the bolt on transmissions worth swapping or should I make a different trans fit?


88 RX7 5.3L T56 Burnouts
86 Comanche 5.3L AX15 231 D44's Jumps
86 Volvo 245 slammed People carrier
84 300D Oil Burner

MFSuper90
Budget Builder

1,533
11-24-2016, 10:32 AM #15
Good to see you are still around!
that coil setup on the front is pretty good idea! never would have though of that myself.
And before you go to haywire on the trans ideas, have you tried turning up the line pressure?

'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         
MFSuper90
11-24-2016, 10:32 AM #15

Good to see you are still around!
that coil setup on the front is pretty good idea! never would have though of that myself.
And before you go to haywire on the trans ideas, have you tried turning up the line pressure?


'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         

ilovemybike
Naturally-aspirated

11
11-24-2016, 01:11 PM #16
I have not, how can I do that?!

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84 300D Oil Burner
ilovemybike
11-24-2016, 01:11 PM #16

I have not, how can I do that?!


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86 Volvo 245 slammed People carrier
84 300D Oil Burner

ilovemybike
Naturally-aspirated

11
11-25-2016, 09:02 PM #17
Turned the old modulator five turns and it's holding second gear with much firmer shifts.

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86 Volvo 245 slammed People carrier
84 300D Oil Burner
ilovemybike
11-25-2016, 09:02 PM #17

Turned the old modulator five turns and it's holding second gear with much firmer shifts.


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86 Volvo 245 slammed People carrier
84 300D Oil Burner

MFSuper90
Budget Builder

1,533
11-27-2016, 11:05 AM #18
Great to hear! Mine shifts hard, but doesn't slip. Definitely harder than any other auto I've have rode in. But it's been truckin along for 5 years or so and hasn't even hiccuped yet so I'd say it's okay.

'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         
MFSuper90
11-27-2016, 11:05 AM #18

Great to hear! Mine shifts hard, but doesn't slip. Definitely harder than any other auto I've have rode in. But it's been truckin along for 5 years or so and hasn't even hiccuped yet so I'd say it's okay.


'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         

Hario'
C300TD Wagon (W202)

894
11-28-2016, 02:48 PM #19
Cool man. Aluminium exhaust??




Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]
Hario'
11-28-2016, 02:48 PM #19

Cool man. Aluminium exhaust??





Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]

ilovemybike
Naturally-aspirated

11
11-28-2016, 06:29 PM #20
(11-28-2016, 02:48 PM)Hario Cool man. Aluminium exhaust??

Yes sir, I had it all lying around so I figured I would try it. I had to machine the V band adapter for the flex pipe off the turbo, that probably took the most time.

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84 300D Oil Burner
ilovemybike
11-28-2016, 06:29 PM #20

(11-28-2016, 02:48 PM)Hario Cool man. Aluminium exhaust??

Yes sir, I had it all lying around so I figured I would try it. I had to machine the V band adapter for the flex pipe off the turbo, that probably took the most time.


88 RX7 5.3L T56 Burnouts
86 Comanche 5.3L AX15 231 D44's Jumps
86 Volvo 245 slammed People carrier
84 300D Oil Burner

ilovemybike
Naturally-aspirated

11
12-08-2018, 08:43 PM #21
So I melted the poor automatic after giving it all the line pressure that I could adjust.  So faced with finding another auto with 300K on it or swapping in a manual I decided to try the three pedal route.  I didn't really want to use a Benz four speed, they aren't that common and they aren't overdrive, so I decided to use an AX15 with a mercedesdiesel4x4 adapter.  I bought a 95 Dakota 2WD AX15 and swapped a 4.0L Jeep bellhousing onto it.  I bought a set of manual pedals off of eBay and started putting things together.  I marked the flywheel before removing it and had a friend who works at Spintech in MA match the off balance of the stock flywheel to the new Jeep flywheel. The shifter pokes through a bit forward, but for now I made a Mustang style shifter and it's working out well.  I made an adapter to use a Ford bolt driveshaft flange instead of the giubo.  I ran a hard line from the clutch master to a bulkhead fitting that I welded to the floor, from that I ran a -3 AN line to an Advance Adapters -3 conversion fitting for the Jeep slave cylinder.  A custom driveshaft, Jeep starter and a trans crossmember and I have been driving it for a month now. 

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ilovemybike
12-08-2018, 08:43 PM #21

So I melted the poor automatic after giving it all the line pressure that I could adjust.  So faced with finding another auto with 300K on it or swapping in a manual I decided to try the three pedal route.  I didn't really want to use a Benz four speed, they aren't that common and they aren't overdrive, so I decided to use an AX15 with a mercedesdiesel4x4 adapter.  I bought a 95 Dakota 2WD AX15 and swapped a 4.0L Jeep bellhousing onto it.  I bought a set of manual pedals off of eBay and started putting things together.  I marked the flywheel before removing it and had a friend who works at Spintech in MA match the off balance of the stock flywheel to the new Jeep flywheel. The shifter pokes through a bit forward, but for now I made a Mustang style shifter and it's working out well.  I made an adapter to use a Ford bolt driveshaft flange instead of the giubo.  I ran a hard line from the clutch master to a bulkhead fitting that I welded to the floor, from that I ran a -3 AN line to an Advance Adapters -3 conversion fitting for the Jeep slave cylinder.  A custom driveshaft, Jeep starter and a trans crossmember and I have been driving it for a month now. 

[Image: 48203697_835420974001_469371260522148659...e=5C6535AF][Image: 47685390_835420983981_350098545967942860...e=5C992BD1][Image: 48366601_835420969011_111770481718407987...e=5CA99359][Image: 48371808_835421158631_281272650679766220...e=5CA53217]


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sassparilla_kid
diesel > all other fuels

1,618
12-08-2018, 10:30 PM #22
Looks sweet, as for the shifter have you considered relocating it with something like this?

   

-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
sassparilla_kid
12-08-2018, 10:30 PM #22

Looks sweet, as for the shifter have you considered relocating it with something like this?

   


-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!

ilovemybike
Naturally-aspirated

11
12-09-2018, 08:06 PM #23
I played with that idea, but it shifts pretty good as it is.

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84 300D Oil Burner
ilovemybike
12-09-2018, 08:06 PM #23

I played with that idea, but it shifts pretty good as it is.


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