STD Tuning Drivetrain 722.118 high stall convertor ?

722.118 high stall convertor ?

722.118 high stall convertor ?

 
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RonB
TA 0301

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09-20-2012, 04:47 AM #1
In the projects section i mentioned buy a W123 300TD with a STT turbo fitted. The wagons trans was flaring pretty badly into third.A sniff of the fluid was enough to both turn my guts and tell me the trans was cooked.
The extra cooler mounted under the left front fender tells me that the car set up to be abused..Smile .I dropped the pan and found the K2 snap ring lying in the bottom...
Confused

I find that the convertor is also an odd one
The normal convertor is a #123 25001 02 (10.2 stamped next to this, i am not too sure what this means.Slip ratio?)
But this one is a #116 250 01 02 (35.0) . The nearest I can find to this in the EPC is a M116 3.5 liter V8 convertor which is #1162501102 .
After I pulled the trans so I could look further into the 'issue' and found that the K2 clutch outer plate was installed back to front( the disc lining was gone completely and some are warped) and the next clutch drums release springs were a few short. you can't buy them anymore apparently..
So after buying a few parts including a second trans to get some more parts i have built one trans from two.

I was wondering if anyone else has used one of these to raise the stall speed?
I am going to reuse this convertor and i have fitted 20 clutch release springs. The car,apart from the lack of third , pulled quite smoothly and was easy to drive around at lower speeds compared with a regular 300 D (NA) .
The convertor that was in the wagon
   
   

The B2 band is from the donor trans and was typically burnt after the previous owner kept driving with a leaky vacuum circuit.
The discs are stripped of the linings and warped out of shape.
   
This post was last modified: 09-20-2012, 04:51 AM by RonB.
RonB
09-20-2012, 04:47 AM #1

In the projects section i mentioned buy a W123 300TD with a STT turbo fitted. The wagons trans was flaring pretty badly into third.A sniff of the fluid was enough to both turn my guts and tell me the trans was cooked.
The extra cooler mounted under the left front fender tells me that the car set up to be abused..Smile .I dropped the pan and found the K2 snap ring lying in the bottom...
Confused

I find that the convertor is also an odd one
The normal convertor is a #123 25001 02 (10.2 stamped next to this, i am not too sure what this means.Slip ratio?)
But this one is a #116 250 01 02 (35.0) . The nearest I can find to this in the EPC is a M116 3.5 liter V8 convertor which is #1162501102 .
After I pulled the trans so I could look further into the 'issue' and found that the K2 clutch outer plate was installed back to front( the disc lining was gone completely and some are warped) and the next clutch drums release springs were a few short. you can't buy them anymore apparently..
So after buying a few parts including a second trans to get some more parts i have built one trans from two.

I was wondering if anyone else has used one of these to raise the stall speed?
I am going to reuse this convertor and i have fitted 20 clutch release springs. The car,apart from the lack of third , pulled quite smoothly and was easy to drive around at lower speeds compared with a regular 300 D (NA) .
The convertor that was in the wagon
   
   

The B2 band is from the donor trans and was typically burnt after the previous owner kept driving with a leaky vacuum circuit.
The discs are stripped of the linings and warped out of shape.
   

w123love
Stockish

354
09-20-2012, 09:02 AM #2
High Stall Conveter thread

Maybe this will help? [/align]

if it don’t blow black...take it back.

1982 300TDT 4 Speed 196K Standard Beige “VEGEWGN”. 300GD FW. Walbro FRC-8 Fuel Pump. ZadaTech LCD Boost, EGT, & Fuel Pressure gauge. Non-EGR Exhaust and Intake Manifold. 3/2 Valves gone. Soon to have Elsbett WVO conversion
1981 300D 314K Midnight Blue “The Blue Car”, Lovecrap system, owned 25 years+
1985 300TD White 198K “Betty White” Pure beauty

The VEGEWGN
w123love
09-20-2012, 09:02 AM #2

High Stall Conveter thread

Maybe this will help? [/align]


if it don’t blow black...take it back.

1982 300TDT 4 Speed 196K Standard Beige “VEGEWGN”. 300GD FW. Walbro FRC-8 Fuel Pump. ZadaTech LCD Boost, EGT, & Fuel Pressure gauge. Non-EGR Exhaust and Intake Manifold. 3/2 Valves gone. Soon to have Elsbett WVO conversion
1981 300D 314K Midnight Blue “The Blue Car”, Lovecrap system, owned 25 years+
1985 300TD White 198K “Betty White” Pure beauty

The VEGEWGN

aaa
GT2256V

913
09-20-2012, 09:21 AM #3
I doubt a gasser torque converter would be high stall. It reduces mpg, for little benefit on a nonturbocharged car.
aaa
09-20-2012, 09:21 AM #3

I doubt a gasser torque converter would be high stall. It reduces mpg, for little benefit on a nonturbocharged car.

RonB
TA 0301

69
09-20-2012, 04:52 PM #4
thanks for the link to that thread , I did find this with plenty of info from page 100.
http://www.kingomatic.com/documents/08_TC_Cat_lo.pdf

I can see now that the convertor is a 300 series V8 (3.5 ,4.5 ) so I will reuse it anyway. The WSM will have stall speeds listed so I'll have a look there just for curiosities sake. Cheers!Cool
RonB
09-20-2012, 04:52 PM #4

thanks for the link to that thread , I did find this with plenty of info from page 100.
http://www.kingomatic.com/documents/08_TC_Cat_lo.pdf

I can see now that the convertor is a 300 series V8 (3.5 ,4.5 ) so I will reuse it anyway. The WSM will have stall speeds listed so I'll have a look there just for curiosities sake. Cheers!Cool

 
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