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617. Engine junk?

617. Engine junk?

 
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jkstehn
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05-30-2009, 03:44 PM #1
So I was taking apart my junkyard 617 while trying to get things a bit cleaner and while I was trying to get the bolts out of the main crank pulley the engine turned. Put a 27 mm socket on it and I can turn it by hand. Glow plugs and injector have not been removed. I expect that this means the engine really is junk, with no compression. Am I right? Huh
jkstehn
05-30-2009, 03:44 PM #1

So I was taking apart my junkyard 617 while trying to get things a bit cleaner and while I was trying to get the bolts out of the main crank pulley the engine turned. Put a 27 mm socket on it and I can turn it by hand. Glow plugs and injector have not been removed. I expect that this means the engine really is junk, with no compression. Am I right? Huh

ForcedInduction
Banned

3,628
05-30-2009, 04:12 PM #2
Only an actual compression test can tell you that.
ForcedInduction
05-30-2009, 04:12 PM #2

Only an actual compression test can tell you that.

Syncro_G
0-60 in 29 sec

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05-31-2009, 04:12 PM #3
(05-30-2009, 03:44 PM)jkstehn Put a 27 mm socket on it and I can turn it by hand.......I expect that this means the engine really is junk, with no compression.

I can turn mine by hand without much trouble - I do have to put a little weight on the wrench every 144 degrees to get past a compression peak.

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'84 G-Wagen turbodiesel
'75 240D 4-Speed

Syncro_G
05-31-2009, 04:12 PM #3

(05-30-2009, 03:44 PM)jkstehn Put a 27 mm socket on it and I can turn it by hand.......I expect that this means the engine really is junk, with no compression.

I can turn mine by hand without much trouble - I do have to put a little weight on the wrench every 144 degrees to get past a compression peak.


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'84 G-Wagen turbodiesel
'75 240D 4-Speed

jkstehn
Unregistered

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05-31-2009, 05:15 PM #4
(05-31-2009, 04:12 PM)Syncro_G
(05-30-2009, 03:44 PM)jkstehn Put a 27 mm socket on it and I can turn it by hand.......I expect that this means the engine really is junk, with no compression.

I can turn mine by hand without much trouble - I do have to put a little weight on the wrench every 144 degrees to get past a compression peak.

Well there is hope then. I am waiting to get hold of a compression tester. Should be next week.

Is it possible to check compression without spinning it by starter?

Anyone ever hooked up the starter and spun one of these on an engine stand. I could hook up the engine crane to the top for extra safety margin but I am still really leery of trying to turn it over while attached to an engine stand.
jkstehn
05-31-2009, 05:15 PM #4

(05-31-2009, 04:12 PM)Syncro_G
(05-30-2009, 03:44 PM)jkstehn Put a 27 mm socket on it and I can turn it by hand.......I expect that this means the engine really is junk, with no compression.

I can turn mine by hand without much trouble - I do have to put a little weight on the wrench every 144 degrees to get past a compression peak.

Well there is hope then. I am waiting to get hold of a compression tester. Should be next week.

Is it possible to check compression without spinning it by starter?

Anyone ever hooked up the starter and spun one of these on an engine stand. I could hook up the engine crane to the top for extra safety margin but I am still really leery of trying to turn it over while attached to an engine stand.

SurfRodder
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06-01-2009, 03:01 AM #5
(05-31-2009, 05:15 PM)jkstehn I am still really leery of trying to turn it over while attached to an engine stand.

i wouldnt worry about it... somehow running it on the stand might be a little hairy, but turning it over shouldnt be a prob as long as everything is clear of the moving components...

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SurfRodder
06-01-2009, 03:01 AM #5

(05-31-2009, 05:15 PM)jkstehn I am still really leery of trying to turn it over while attached to an engine stand.

i wouldnt worry about it... somehow running it on the stand might be a little hairy, but turning it over shouldnt be a prob as long as everything is clear of the moving components...


W123 Mods: 4 speed ** manual climate control ** '85 Kalitucky intake ** manual windows & full tint ** Euro headlights retrofit w/bixenon projectors ** 4 brake light mod ** Vogtland 50mm drop front & Lesjofors S600 drop rear springs ** 16" rims ** late w126 brake spindles, rotors & calipers ** full suspension rehab ** Bilstein HDs ** AL129X alternator & 1/0 starter and charging cables ** 300GD clutch/flywheel ** AFCO 80103N radiator & Earl's 41610 oil cooler ** custom block-off plate, remote oil filter & t-stat ** MW IP w/ tomnik's 6.5mm 'Holly' elements **

S124 Mods: 400E Rear subframe ** SL600 Brakes ** Late 300E 210mm diff ** SLK230 6 speed ** 17" CLK rims ** Vented RF Fender ** Facelift Hood, Headlights, and Lower Cladding **

OBK# 62

tantank79
T3-45

109
06-01-2009, 10:56 AM #6
You can definitely run one on the floor (or the middle of a field, in my case)!

-Brian

1983 300TD
1982 240D
1981 280TE
tantank79
06-01-2009, 10:56 AM #6

You can definitely run one on the floor (or the middle of a field, in my case)!


-Brian

1983 300TD
1982 240D
1981 280TE

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
06-01-2009, 01:37 PM #7
do not let the engine side on the oil pan. running or not.

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
06-01-2009, 01:37 PM #7

do not let the engine side on the oil pan. running or not.


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

GileadGarage
TA 0301

62
07-09-2009, 11:34 PM #8
At first I thought you meant you could spin the socket with your hand, with no ratchet!
GileadGarage
07-09-2009, 11:34 PM #8

At first I thought you meant you could spin the socket with your hand, with no ratchet!

 
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