Swap OM612 head onto OM617?
Swap OM612 head onto OM617?
If you're going to plop a common rail head on there, why not swap in the whole engine?
Unless you mean some other engine. Even if you do find the direct-injected relative of the 617 (om317?), the pistons are different as well, with a chamber in the middle of them instead of the prechamber.
Pretty sure the answer's no.
If you're going to plop a common rail head on there, why not swap in the whole engine?
Unless you mean some other engine. Even if you do find the direct-injected relative of the 617 (om317?), the pistons are different as well, with a chamber in the middle of them instead of the prechamber.
Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
07-24-2012, 11:20 AM #3The easiest way to find out would be buying two headgaskets
Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
07-24-2012, 12:28 PM #5The 617 block is rock solid, that's why!
Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
(07-24-2012, 11:20 AM)Simpler=Better The easiest way to find out would be buying two headgaskets
Brilliant! (Actually, just need the OM612 gasket. I know where to find a 617 gasket.)
Why not a whole new engine The 617 has a reputation as bulletproof. The 617 has 10% more displacement. We already have a working 617. Um, inertia.
Well, why not a whole new engine? Will a 612 bolt up to a 617's transmission and engine mounts?
(07-24-2012, 11:20 AM)Simpler=Better The easiest way to find out would be buying two headgaskets
Brilliant! (Actually, just need the OM612 gasket. I know where to find a 617 gasket.)
Why not a whole new engine The 617 has a reputation as bulletproof. The 617 has 10% more displacement. We already have a working 617. Um, inertia.
Well, why not a whole new engine? Will a 612 bolt up to a 617's transmission and engine mounts?
Plopping an aluminum head on a 617 makes it lose half of its reliability. And the 612 uses the om60x style bellhousing, so you'd have to procure a transmission from that era (they are cheapish).
Are you really talking about a 612? Because you seem unwilling to swap out other far cheaper components (trans, motor mounts).
Plopping an aluminum head on a 617 makes it lose half of its reliability. And the 612 uses the om60x style bellhousing, so you'd have to procure a transmission from that era (they are cheapish).
(07-24-2012, 01:30 PM)aaa Are you really talking about a 612? Because you seem unwilling to swap out other far cheaper components (trans, motor mounts).
Plopping an aluminum head on a 617 makes it lose half of its reliability. And the 612 uses the om60x style bellhousing, so you'd have to procure a transmission from that era (they are cheapish).
Not unwilling so much as ignorant. How 'bout if I phrase the question this way: If I want to put a 612's injectors and ECU into a 1982 car, what's the easiest way to get there?
(07-24-2012, 01:30 PM)aaa Are you really talking about a 612? Because you seem unwilling to swap out other far cheaper components (trans, motor mounts).
Plopping an aluminum head on a 617 makes it lose half of its reliability. And the 612 uses the om60x style bellhousing, so you'd have to procure a transmission from that era (they are cheapish).
Not unwilling so much as ignorant. How 'bout if I phrase the question this way: If I want to put a 612's injectors and ECU into a 1982 car, what's the easiest way to get there?
The easiest way to get there is the entire year 2000+ car as a donor. Then you swap the engine in, then you swap in the ecu and wiring, then you swap in all the little things attached to said wiring like the ignition and the instrument cluster and the transmission, since the ecu won't work without them...
If you want more displacement in a 5 cylinder common rail engine than the 270cdi. Go look for a c30 amg cdi. The stroke in that engine should be 97mm. If choose to go that route, you will need even deeper pockets.
Easiest way to get direct injection and more displacement than 270cdi would be the om602.982 from e290 turbodiesel. It has vp37 injection. Early VAG tdi-s have vp37.
Edit: I must be blind, aaa wrote the same thing about the pistons.
Also if I remember correctly, the om612 has the combustion chambers in the pistons, but if you manage to mate a 617 block to a 612 head, then the pistons are a relativly small obstacle.
If you want more displacement in a 5 cylinder common rail engine than the 270cdi. Go look for a c30 amg cdi. The stroke in that engine should be 97mm. If choose to go that route, you will need even deeper pockets.
Easiest way to get direct injection and more displacement than 270cdi would be the om602.982 from e290 turbodiesel. It has vp37 injection. Early VAG tdi-s have vp37.
Edit: I must be blind, aaa wrote the same thing about the pistons.
1 Guest(s)
1 Guest(s)