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Euro Lights Help

Euro Lights Help

 
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smoke026
When the Cat's away the mice will play!

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04-27-2012, 11:13 PM #1
Have decided to install Euro Lights on my 85 wagon so im in need of help.
I have read that there are many different types (high spec, low spec, vacuum controlled etc)

Need to know what all that means.
Also will i need a wiring kit? If so where can i acquire it?

If any one has a set and want to offer them hit me up. I would desire the simplest adaptable set of euro lights.

Thanks.
smoke026
04-27-2012, 11:13 PM #1

Have decided to install Euro Lights on my 85 wagon so im in need of help.
I have read that there are many different types (high spec, low spec, vacuum controlled etc)

Need to know what all that means.
Also will i need a wiring kit? If so where can i acquire it?

If any one has a set and want to offer them hit me up. I would desire the simplest adaptable set of euro lights.

Thanks.

Purplecomputer
Slowness 220D

897
04-28-2012, 03:37 PM #2
The euro headlights off ebay are pretty good, Passed my expectations on quality and are holding up very well. they took about ten minutes to install for each side and look great.

I would go with those as they are pretty cheap and you get them new.
Purplecomputer
04-28-2012, 03:37 PM #2

The euro headlights off ebay are pretty good, Passed my expectations on quality and are holding up very well. they took about ten minutes to install for each side and look great.

I would go with those as they are pretty cheap and you get them new.

DavidLee
K26-2

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05-03-2012, 12:50 AM #3
Plus, as I found out reading an other thread, you can use a U.S. spec Tail light harness plug out of a scrap yard 123 and it is the same plug as the (Euro head light plug) that you buy on E bay for like $10. either way, you can just disassemble your headlight plug and replug your wires in to the donor socket plug, then you dont have to cut any wiring on your car, just splice in a wire off your parking light lead for your "City lights" that come on the Euro headlights, or if you dont want to splice anything, just dont even hook them up.
Thats how I did it on my 300D and my 190E I just didnt know about the U.S. tail light plug being the same as the euro headlight plug.
This post was last modified: 05-03-2012, 12:53 AM by DavidLee.

87 300D Turbo. 16x8 wheels off 92 SL
87 190E 2.3.. Complete OEM F&R Euro lighting and Euro F bumper.
84 230e Euro.. Red w/tan cloth, crank windows, pwr sunroof
82 GMC Jimmy 4X4 6.2 Diesel
92 Talon AWD turbo w/ upgrades
73 Roadrunner 340ci

WTB. Euro rear bumper for early (82-88) W201 "190"
DavidLee
05-03-2012, 12:50 AM #3

Plus, as I found out reading an other thread, you can use a U.S. spec Tail light harness plug out of a scrap yard 123 and it is the same plug as the (Euro head light plug) that you buy on E bay for like $10. either way, you can just disassemble your headlight plug and replug your wires in to the donor socket plug, then you dont have to cut any wiring on your car, just splice in a wire off your parking light lead for your "City lights" that come on the Euro headlights, or if you dont want to splice anything, just dont even hook them up.
Thats how I did it on my 300D and my 190E I just didnt know about the U.S. tail light plug being the same as the euro headlight plug.


87 300D Turbo. 16x8 wheels off 92 SL
87 190E 2.3.. Complete OEM F&R Euro lighting and Euro F bumper.
84 230e Euro.. Red w/tan cloth, crank windows, pwr sunroof
82 GMC Jimmy 4X4 6.2 Diesel
92 Talon AWD turbo w/ upgrades
73 Roadrunner 340ci

WTB. Euro rear bumper for early (82-88) W201 "190"

p71outlaw
Unregistered

 
01-21-2013, 10:58 AM #4
would a 85 300d headlight assembly fit an 84 because i wan euros so bad
p71outlaw
01-21-2013, 10:58 AM #4

would a 85 300d headlight assembly fit an 84 because i wan euros so bad

sassparilla_kid
diesel > all other fuels

1,618
01-21-2013, 11:23 AM #5
As long as they're from the same style body you should be fine

-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
sassparilla_kid
01-21-2013, 11:23 AM #5

As long as they're from the same style body you should be fine


-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!

Druk
Holset

297
01-21-2013, 11:31 AM #6
(04-27-2012, 11:13 PM)smoke026 Have decided to install Euro Lights on my 85 wagon so im in need of help.
I have read that there are many different types (high spec, low spec, vacuum controlled etc)

Need to know what all that means.
Also will i need a wiring kit? If so where can i acquire it?

If any one has a set and want to offer them hit me up. I would desire the simplest adaptable set of euro lights.

Thanks.

Living in a far flung outpost of Euroland if there's anything I can help with give me a shout. The difference between 'high spec' and 'low spec' can only be the wattage of the bulb fitted. The vacuum control (do you not have that in the US?) is to vary the height of the beam if there's a load in the back. Not required to operate the lights and can be ignored if not required over there. Just adjust the beam and leave alone.




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This post was last modified: 01-21-2013, 11:31 AM by Druk.
Druk
01-21-2013, 11:31 AM #6

(04-27-2012, 11:13 PM)smoke026 Have decided to install Euro Lights on my 85 wagon so im in need of help.
I have read that there are many different types (high spec, low spec, vacuum controlled etc)

Need to know what all that means.
Also will i need a wiring kit? If so where can i acquire it?

If any one has a set and want to offer them hit me up. I would desire the simplest adaptable set of euro lights.

Thanks.

Living in a far flung outpost of Euroland if there's anything I can help with give me a shout. The difference between 'high spec' and 'low spec' can only be the wattage of the bulb fitted. The vacuum control (do you not have that in the US?) is to vary the height of the beam if there's a load in the back. Not required to operate the lights and can be ignored if not required over there. Just adjust the beam and leave alone.




.

JustPassinThru
W123 and W124

491
01-21-2013, 09:17 PM #7
My understanding is that the W123 Euro headlamps have a glass face. W123 US headlamps have bare headlamps with a plastic surround. Originally the W123 US headlamps used a sealed-beam main lamp and an H3 inner "fog" lamp, but many people replace the sealed-beam main lamp with an aftermarket H4 headlamp from Cibie, Bosch, Hella, or other manufacturers. Daniel Stern Lighting is an authoritative online source of aftermarket headlamps.

The Euro headlamp with round reflectors is the earlier type and is called the "low spec" headlamp.

The Euro headlamp with square reflectors is the later type and is called the "high spec" headlamp.

Here, "low" or "high" has nothing to do with wattage. Both specs use an H4 bulb.

The original high-specs were manufactured by Bosch. If memory serves, the original low-specs were manufactured by Hella. Someone correct me if I'm mistaken here.

Depo currently makes reproduction high-specs. No one is making reproduction low-specs.

Vacuum control headlamps have a knob on the dashboard which lets you adjust the aim. There is plumbing involved.

Here I must boast a little. Yesterday I bought an immaculate pair of non-vacuum Bosch high-specs, no flaws in the glass faces, reflectors look new, locally for $175.
This post was last modified: 01-21-2013, 09:29 PM by JustPassinThru.

Gone but not forgotten: two W123 sedans and two W124 wagons.
W124 1987 300TD wagon, for sale, $1000 (some assembly required).
JustPassinThru
01-21-2013, 09:17 PM #7

My understanding is that the W123 Euro headlamps have a glass face. W123 US headlamps have bare headlamps with a plastic surround. Originally the W123 US headlamps used a sealed-beam main lamp and an H3 inner "fog" lamp, but many people replace the sealed-beam main lamp with an aftermarket H4 headlamp from Cibie, Bosch, Hella, or other manufacturers. Daniel Stern Lighting is an authoritative online source of aftermarket headlamps.

The Euro headlamp with round reflectors is the earlier type and is called the "low spec" headlamp.

The Euro headlamp with square reflectors is the later type and is called the "high spec" headlamp.

Here, "low" or "high" has nothing to do with wattage. Both specs use an H4 bulb.

The original high-specs were manufactured by Bosch. If memory serves, the original low-specs were manufactured by Hella. Someone correct me if I'm mistaken here.

Depo currently makes reproduction high-specs. No one is making reproduction low-specs.

Vacuum control headlamps have a knob on the dashboard which lets you adjust the aim. There is plumbing involved.

Here I must boast a little. Yesterday I bought an immaculate pair of non-vacuum Bosch high-specs, no flaws in the glass faces, reflectors look new, locally for $175.


Gone but not forgotten: two W123 sedans and two W124 wagons.
W124 1987 300TD wagon, for sale, $1000 (some assembly required).

sassparilla_kid
diesel > all other fuels

1,618
01-21-2013, 10:22 PM #8
I have a pair of the round H4 sealed beam replacements I got from a place called Delta lighting, something like that. They had crystal lenses, ultra clear and super bright. I ended up putting some Depo euro lamps on the car, the regular glass lens is not as clear, and the beam cutoff isn't as sharp and defined. So if you want improved lighting, just get the round ones and makesure they have lead or maybe titanium crystal lenses, if you just want the car to look cooler then there is a seller on eBay that occasionally has the Depo reproduction euro lamps for like $98, I think the seller is socalvwaudiparts or something along those lines

-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
sassparilla_kid
01-21-2013, 10:22 PM #8

I have a pair of the round H4 sealed beam replacements I got from a place called Delta lighting, something like that. They had crystal lenses, ultra clear and super bright. I ended up putting some Depo euro lamps on the car, the regular glass lens is not as clear, and the beam cutoff isn't as sharp and defined. So if you want improved lighting, just get the round ones and makesure they have lead or maybe titanium crystal lenses, if you just want the car to look cooler then there is a seller on eBay that occasionally has the Depo reproduction euro lamps for like $98, I think the seller is socalvwaudiparts or something along those lines


-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!

poleshady
GTA2056V

78
05-21-2013, 06:35 PM #9
has anyone bought these or know anything about them, they are pretty cheap and the clear blinkers are sweet.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-BENZ-W1...bd&vxp=mtr

also i have one of those vacuum switches in my car that adjusts the lights( my car had euro lights at some point and the previous owner got rid of them), are those switches worth anything to anyone?
poleshady
05-21-2013, 06:35 PM #9

has anyone bought these or know anything about them, they are pretty cheap and the clear blinkers are sweet.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-BENZ-W1...bd&vxp=mtr

also i have one of those vacuum switches in my car that adjusts the lights( my car had euro lights at some point and the previous owner got rid of them), are those switches worth anything to anyone?

willbhere4u
Six in a row make her go!

2,507
05-22-2013, 03:29 PM #10
The depo lights fit and look nice but do not have the vacuum adjustments.

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
05-22-2013, 03:29 PM #10

The depo lights fit and look nice but do not have the vacuum adjustments.


1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

poleshady
GTA2056V

78
05-22-2013, 03:34 PM #11
has anyone put in HID bulbs and the balast and all that junk or just use standard h4 bulb?
poleshady
05-22-2013, 03:34 PM #11

has anyone put in HID bulbs and the balast and all that junk or just use standard h4 bulb?

willbhere4u
Six in a row make her go!

2,507
05-22-2013, 03:39 PM #12
My signature pic are these DEPO light with Hid's 6k in the standard spot and 10k in the fog lights i had to mound the ballast's out side of the light in the engine compartment. But they where the older one that are bigger. i suspect that the newer smaller ones might fit inside the lights.

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
05-22-2013, 03:39 PM #12

My signature pic are these DEPO light with Hid's 6k in the standard spot and 10k in the fog lights i had to mound the ballast's out side of the light in the engine compartment. But they where the older one that are bigger. i suspect that the newer smaller ones might fit inside the lights.


1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

 
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