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7,5 mm Element design for high performance engine
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7,5 mm Element design for high performance engine
As some of you here on the STD forum knows, I have been struggling with making my own pumpelement for the M-seriepump. I want to reveal some facts what I have done the last year.

Previously I have done pumps with the "old" 7 mm Ford Transit element, Also with the 6 mm original OM606 element. My opinion was that the 7 mm didnt work out well at all, High knock at low idle, high fuelconsumption max 120cc was some of the disadvantages with those.

6 mm was running perfect, good balance nice idle and so on.

After those pumps my customers wanted moore fuel, Myna was running 170cc with there own 7 mm element, However I could not buy those, Myna dont sell element only, they just put them in there own pumps. The explanation I got was that
-It is some difference in quality.

At this moment I have around 10-15 pumps waiting for nice, big element whit a lot of fuel.
Something had to bee doneDodgy

I started do design the first serie of 7,5 mm element, It took around 3 months for the factory to make them for me.
At this moment I have payed around 8000 euro.
After 4 months the goods arriwed, I was glad for about 4,5 minute, then everything went to ****.
Barrel was too big, didnt even fit in the pumphousing, plunger was 0,15mm to long, The plunger could not go to top in the pump, it was stuck.
This however I could fix, my friend, who has a mechanical workshop helped me.
Barrels was grinded down to right dimensions so that they fitted in the housing, plunger was modified so that I could mount them in the pump.

First pump was 2,5 degrees wrong in phasing, That was no big deal, but it gave me a lot of extra work, changing rollers in the tappet lifter so the balance was OK.

Next thing was fuelquantity, I was expecting a bit over 170cc but no.
140-150 cc was max at 21mm of rack BUT, It had capacity for OVER 200ccBig GrinBig Grin
The "only" thing was that the helixangel on the element was to flat, I would need around 25-26 mm of rack to get 100% out of the element.

80 elements where adjusted, 10pc of 140cc pumps was built with good result. I bougt a 250TD with OM605 just for testing the pumpelements properly.
Rest of the elements where shipped back to the factory for modification.

Serie 2 was up on drawingtable, wise from the first serie I know now how it should bee designed, Serie 2 has som benefits that serie 1 dont have.
Here is a small teaserRolleyes

.jpg   Skärmklipp barrel.JPG (Size: 14.45 KB / Downloads: 9,239)

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50 days from today and serie 2 will arriwe for testing. After that gentlemen, I think that I can offer you some nice pumps.
140cc & a bit moore.





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RE: 7,5 mm Element design for high performance engine
(02-27-2012, 02:43 PM)dieselmeken Wrote: As some of you here on the STD forum knows, I have been struggling with making my own pumpelement for the M-seriepump. I want to reveal some facts what I have done the last year.

Previously I have done pumps with the "old" 7 mm Ford Transit element, Also with the 6 mm original OM606 element. My opinion was that the 7 mm didnt work out well at all, High knock at low idle, high fuelconsumption max 120cc was some of the disadvantages with those.

6 mm was running perfect, good balance nice idle and so on.

After those pumps my customers wanted moore fuel, Myna was running 170cc with there own 7 mm element, However I could not buy those, Myna dont sell element only, they just put them in there own pumps. The explanation I got was that
-It is some difference in quality.

At this moment I have around 10-15 pumps waiting for nice, big element whit a lot of fuel.
Something had to bee doneDodgy

I started do design the first serie of 7,5 mm element, It took around 3 months for the factory to make them for me.
At this moment I have payed around 8000 euro.
After 4 months the goods arriwed, I was glad for about 4,5 minute, then everything went to ****.
Barrel was too big, didnt even fit in the pumphousing, plunger was 0,15mm to long, The plunger could not go to top in the pump, it was stuck.
This however I could fix, my friend, who has a mechanical workshop helped me.
Barrels was grinded down to right dimensions so that they fitted in the housing, plunger was modified so that I could mount them in the pump.

First pump was 2,5 degrees wrong in phasing, That was no big deal, but it gave me a lot of extra work, changing rollers in the tappet lifter so the balance was OK.

Next thing was fuelquantity, I was expecting a bit over 170cc but no.
140-150 cc was max at 21mm of rack BUT, It had capacity for OVER 200ccBig GrinBig Grin
The "only" thing was that the helixangel on the element was to flat, I would need around 25-26 mm of rack to get 100% out of the element.

80 elements where adjusted, 10pc of 140cc pumps was built with good result. I bougt a 250TD with OM605 just for testing the pumpelements properly.
Rest of the elements where shipped back to the factory for modification.

Serie 2 was up on drawingtable, wise from the first serie I know now how it should bee designed, Serie 2 has som benefits that serie 1 dont have.
Here is a small teaserRolleyes




50 days from today and serie 2 will arriwe for testing. After that gentlemen, I think that I can offer you some nice pumps.
140cc & a bit moore.

Nice one mate.

Ill be looking for a power pump soon for my C250 OM605 Wink
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Thanks for all of your hard work! And for posting on this forum. I'm excited to see how this works out I'll have to start saving up for a custom pump!Big Grin
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I can't wait for these to be offered properly!
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Schttttoked!
if it don’t blow black...take it back.

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What did the factory say?

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Well... I made a pump with 150 cc delivery for Tom, sent it about a week ago.
No need such thing as 20-21 mm track travel Dodgy
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(02-28-2012, 01:39 AM)pp d Wrote: Well... I made a pump with 150 cc delivery for Tom, sent it about a week ago.
No need such thing as 20-21 mm track travel Dodgy

Ofcourse you did. You get a element that works in the first place, You can buy element from Tom, How hard can it bee then? You dont design, you just build the pump.
Toms element is nice if you dont need moore fuel that 140-.150cc, My customers building high performance engine, just as the topic says, and then Toms element is not enough

Im trying to explain how difficult this is, I dont need any devaluation.
I think this is going to workout perfect, just you wait and see.
Some people has not been so helpful to me, that is one of the reasons I had to do something.
02-28-2012, 02:13 AM
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RE: 7,5 mm Element design for high performance engine
(02-28-2012, 02:13 AM)dieselmeken Wrote:
(02-28-2012, 01:39 AM)pp d Wrote: Well... I made a pump with 150 cc delivery for Tom, sent it about a week ago.
No need such thing as 20-21 mm track travel Dodgy

Ofcourse you did. You get a element that works in the first place, You can buy element from Tom, How hard can it bee then? You dont design, you just build the pump.
Toms element is nice if you dont need moore fuel that 140-.150cc, My customers building high performance engine, just as the topic says, and then Toms element is not enough

Im trying to explain how difficult this is, I dont need any devaluation.
I think this is going to workout perfect, just you wait and see.
Some people has not been so helpful to me, that is one of the reasons I had to do something.

hope u succeed, from the deepest hope it work out,
do u have any idea what are u going to do after , will u rebuild the pumps or just available the elements?
go on that the right way to fight.
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02-28-2012, 05:38 AM
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I like the sounds of 200cc Big Grin
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Keep up the good work gøran! Smile
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Göran, Thanks many times over for posting your thoughts, expertise and videos on injection pump building. Folks like myself love to see these journeys in type of build in action and explained.

I hope all the success in this one and perhaps maybe later, you can design and manufacture an affordable higher output MW element. Cool



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Interesting and very effective looking helix design. I am glad someone is making an element that gives more fuel than ~150ccm, as why go through all the trouble and expense with changing the elements only to find you need more fuel. <150ccm elements have there place as well.

Thanks for posting this, and keep up with the great, and sometimes discouraging work!
02-28-2012, 01:22 PM
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great news goran ! do you keep the standard turbo ? is it able to cope with the extra fuel delivery..?

keep us posted goran......

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(02-28-2012, 02:13 AM)dieselmeken Wrote: Toms element is nice if you dont need moore fuel that 140-.150cc, My customers building high performance engine, just as the topic says, and then Toms element is not enough

Hi,

not correct in the case of my SuperFloyd pump.
As I always pray the thing is not to move end of delivery too late.
I am retarding down BOD to about 18deg for smooth engine run and low emission and still end delivery within the Bosch recommendation therefore the limit of quantity.
Now my new prototype delivers 150 ccm but still respecting the safe range of the Bosch book and standard rack travel and standard governor operation.
My new elements could easily exceed 200 ccm but I don't care as only very few people can burn this amount of fuel without black clouds of smoke.
Anyway good job, I know very well what it takes to calculate, design and manufacture elements in excellent qualityCool

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(02-28-2012, 02:13 AM)dieselmeken Wrote: Im trying to explain how difficult this is, I dont need any devaluation.

I support this statement.

It's great that ppd came up with a pump using Tom's elements. I look forward to what dm offers as well. Tom went through several iterations as well IIRC.

More to the point, you guys are offering competition to Myna. I think everyone here appreciates all the hard work everyone has put in.

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(02-28-2012, 05:26 PM)tomnik Wrote: ...
Now my new prototype delivers 150 ccm but still respecting the safe range of the Bosch book and standard rack travel and standard governor operation....
Tom


If I was in the market for M-pump elements, this would be what would want regarding the setup because of the lack of experience in IP building up here in the States. Make it easier for the tech.

BTW -Not to highjack your thread Göran, But Tom, how much are your elements? And are you going to do another run of the MW?


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If I had an M-pump I would buy these elements in a second!!
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Would be nice if the american 617 people didn't even have to mail stuff in to be modded, since 617 m-pumps are in europe already.
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I have a M-pump that needs to be modified. Who do I need to talk to?
if it don’t blow black...take it back.

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(02-29-2012, 09:42 PM)w123love Wrote: I have a M-pump that needs to be modified. Who do I need to talk to?

...to DeliveryValve ...

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(03-01-2012, 12:58 AM)tomnik Wrote:
(02-29-2012, 09:42 PM)w123love Wrote: I have a M-pump that needs to be modified. Who do I need to talk to?

...to DeliveryValve ...

Tom

Or you can talk to me if you wish.
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(03-01-2012, 01:41 AM)dieselmeken Wrote: Or you can talk to me if you wish.

Hi Göran,

the interest was in having a US guy do the pump...

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(03-01-2012, 07:29 PM)tomnik Wrote:
(03-01-2012, 01:41 AM)dieselmeken Wrote: Or you can talk to me if you wish.

Hi Göran,

the interest was in having a US guy do the pump...

Tom

That wasn't mentioned here. Although it would indeed be preferable. I wonder about the timeliness though, of both alternatives.
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I don’t want a US guy touching my pump. I don’t want to be a lab rat. I want a pro. So offshore it will go.
if it don’t blow black...take it back.

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(03-01-2012, 09:33 PM)w123love Wrote: I don’t want a US guy touching my pump. I don’t want to be a lab rat. I want a pro. So offshore it will go.

The guy that did my pump in Fresno is a self proclaimed "Mercedes Geek" and works at an IP shop with likely the same/equivalent test gear to do the actual tuning...not sure how much more "pro" you need...mine has Tom's elements BTW... hope to install it soon.

I also have an M-pump lying around that I may mess with at a later date, but I'm sure it'll go to the same guy for tuning.
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Gøran`s 7.5mm elements killed my 2nd and 3rd gear! But there is still brutal acceleration in 4thSmile So I am very pleased with the pump and the job Gøran did! Gøran is the manWink
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Yes, I know that my serie 1 element works out well, it just needs some more love and care when putting them into the pump.
Nothing for do it yorself.
Serie 1 will never bee sold as part only, I only put them in by myself.
Serie 2 however will be on the market, But only after testing them out.


I am glad that EDH_performance i happy with his dm superpump.
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(03-04-2012, 01:59 PM)dieselmeken Wrote: Yes, I know that my serie 1 element works out well, it just needs some more love and care when putting them into the pump.
Nothing for do it yorself.
Serie 1 will never bee sold as part only, I only put them in by myself.
Serie 2 however will be on the market, But only after testing them out.


I am glad that EDH_performance i happy with his dm superpump.

price per series 2 element ? and any idea of when these may be ready
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(03-04-2012, 04:47 PM)squirrelmaster Wrote:
(03-04-2012, 01:59 PM)dieselmeken Wrote: Yes, I know that my serie 1 element works out well, it just needs some more love and care when putting them into the pump.
Nothing for do it yorself.
Serie 1 will never bee sold as part only, I only put them in by myself.
Serie 2 however will be on the market, But only after testing them out.


I am glad that EDH_performance i happy with his dm superpump.

price per series 2 element ? and any idea of when these may be ready

As I wrote at first, 50 days approx. Price is not set yet. I must test them out first.

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Can you tell how much is true injection amount on 7,5mm. Not mean what you can get on testbench?
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(03-04-2012, 08:34 AM)EDH_Performance Wrote: Gøran`s 7.5mm elements killed my 2nd and 3rd gear! But there is still brutal acceleration in 4thSmile So I am very pleased with the pump and the job Gøran did! Gøran is the manWink
hi,
nice one, Goran has done it againTongue
what sort of EGTS are you getting
how many cc of fuel

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(03-05-2012, 05:20 PM)mantahead Wrote:
(03-04-2012, 08:34 AM)EDH_Performance Wrote: Gøran`s 7.5mm elements killed my 2nd and 3rd gear! But there is still brutal acceleration in 4thSmile So I am very pleased with the pump and the job Gøran did! Gøran is the manWink
hi,
nice one, Goran has done it againTongue
what sort of EGTS are you getting
how many cc of fuel

I dont know what cc my pumpe gives! Tell us GøranBig Grin
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(03-05-2012, 04:15 PM)jeemu Wrote: Can you tell how much is true injection amount on 7,5mm. Not mean what you can get on testbench?

Im not sure I am with you there, You must explain what you mean Jeemu.
The only amount I have is the answer from the bench. That is with 6x2x600 pipes & 111 testinjectors just as the Bosch testsheet says for that pump.

EDH_performance is 140cc @ 1500 rpm.

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(03-06-2012, 01:29 AM)dieselmeken Wrote: EDH_performance is 140cc @ 1500 rpm.

... @ which rack position?

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(03-06-2012, 02:40 PM)tomnik Wrote:
(03-06-2012, 01:29 AM)dieselmeken Wrote: EDH_performance is 140cc @ 1500 rpm.

... @ which rack position?

Tom
around 18 mm, why do you wonder?

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RE: 7,5 mm Element design for high performance engine
(03-04-2012, 08:34 AM)EDH_Performance Wrote: Gøran`s 7.5mm elements killed my 2nd and 3rd gear! But there is still brutal acceleration in 4thSmile So I am very pleased with the pump and the job Gøran did! Gøran is the manWink

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(03-06-2012, 09:43 PM)winmutt Wrote:
(03-04-2012, 08:34 AM)EDH_Performance Wrote: Gøran`s 7.5mm elements killed my 2nd and 3rd gear! But there is still brutal acceleration in 4thSmile So I am very pleased with the pump and the job Gøran did! Gøran is the manWink

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Daniel, do you have a small clip just for showing, maybee I can get a five star rating on my topic thenSmile
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So excited!!

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Glad I didn't send my pump out yet... Smile
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Can we say "group buy"?
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I need to find another job pronto so I can afford this lol
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Here is oneSmile
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Da_aPaNex...r_embedded#!

The other car is an BMW 325ix with 170 hp.

I have no 3rd and so I have alot of lag I 4th because of thatSmile
Feeding pressure to the pump is 3bar.
The turbo is putting out 1.7bar, around 450-500c in EGT, and it is still smoking, so i need to turn the stoparm down a bit moreSmile

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RE: 7,5 mm Element design for high performance engine
(03-08-2012, 05:05 AM)EDH_Performance Wrote: Here is oneSmile
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Da_aPaNex...r_embedded#!

The other car is an BMW 325ix with 170 hp.

I have no 3rd and so I have alot of lag I 4th because of thatSmile
Feeding preassure to the pump is 3bar.
The turbo is putting out 1.7bar, around 450-500c in EGT, and it is still smoking, so i need to turn the stoparm down a bit moreSmile

Or you can adjust the pressure to go higher, and crash the other gears tooBig GrinBig Grin



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(03-08-2012, 07:40 AM)dieselmeken Wrote:
(03-08-2012, 05:05 AM)EDH_Performance Wrote: Here is oneSmile
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Da_aPaNex...r_embedded#!

The other car is an BMW 325ix with 170 hp.

I have no 3rd and so I have alot of lag I 4th because of thatSmile
Feeding preassure to the pump is 3bar.
The turbo is putting out 1.7bar, around 450-500c in EGT, and it is still smoking, so i need to turn the stoparm down a bit moreSmile


Or you can adjust the pressure to go higher, and crash the other gears tooBig GrinBig Grin
Haha, i just ordered a BMW e39 530d gearbox and clutch from a wreckyard in sweden, This will hold the powerWink
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i want to blow black smoke Sad

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(03-08-2012, 08:02 PM)iheartboost Wrote: i want to blow black smoke Sad

buy a truck Smile
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(03-08-2012, 08:19 AM)EDH_Performance Wrote: Haha, i just ordered a BMW e39 530d gearbox and clutch from a wreckyard in sweden, This will hold the powerWink

This is my GS5-39DZ gearbox ready to fit with OM606 engine.
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BMW gearbox should hold your torque, but I'm in deep doubt about original clutch. I offer you to not waste money and buy some ceramic clutch and and stronger pressure plate.
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RE: 7,5 mm Element design for high performance engine
your options with a bmw tranny is huge with clutches.
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