STD Tuning Suspension Bilstein VS Koni

Bilstein VS Koni

Bilstein VS Koni

 
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oldtown
Naturally-aspirated

10
02-13-2012, 05:13 PM #1
What is the deal? are the koni that much better? can i get away with just replacing the shocks and not worry with the springs? My goal is to get rid of the rear end sag.
oldtown
02-13-2012, 05:13 PM #1

What is the deal? are the koni that much better? can i get away with just replacing the shocks and not worry with the springs? My goal is to get rid of the rear end sag.

Snipe656
K26-2

28
02-14-2012, 10:12 AM #2
I personally would not pay a premium for the Koni having ran both on cars in the past. As far as do you need springs or not, why not first replace the shocks and see where the new ones get you then work from there?
Snipe656
02-14-2012, 10:12 AM #2

I personally would not pay a premium for the Koni having ran both on cars in the past. As far as do you need springs or not, why not first replace the shocks and see where the new ones get you then work from there?

oldtown
Naturally-aspirated

10
02-14-2012, 10:17 AM #3
(02-14-2012, 10:12 AM)Snipe656 I personally would not pay a premium for the Koni having ran both on cars in the past. As far as do you need springs or not, why not first replace the shocks and see where the new ones get you then work from there?

thanks that is what i need. any opinions on HD vs comfort. my ultimate goal is to get rid of the rear end sag.



oldtown
02-14-2012, 10:17 AM #3

(02-14-2012, 10:12 AM)Snipe656 I personally would not pay a premium for the Koni having ran both on cars in the past. As far as do you need springs or not, why not first replace the shocks and see where the new ones get you then work from there?

thanks that is what i need. any opinions on HD vs comfort. my ultimate goal is to get rid of the rear end sag.



Purplecomputer
Slowness 220D

897
02-14-2012, 06:15 PM #4
(02-14-2012, 10:17 AM)oldtown
(02-14-2012, 10:12 AM)Snipe656 I personally would not pay a premium for the Koni having ran both on cars in the past. As far as do you need springs or not, why not first replace the shocks and see where the new ones get you then work from there?

thanks that is what i need. any opinions on HD vs comfort. my ultimate goal is to get rid of the rear end sag.

Probably need to replace everything. These are old cars and with them...old parts especially worn out ones.

As far as teh HD or comfort I heard the HDs are very rough so it depends on how you like the car to drive.

Purplecomputer
02-14-2012, 06:15 PM #4

(02-14-2012, 10:17 AM)oldtown
(02-14-2012, 10:12 AM)Snipe656 I personally would not pay a premium for the Koni having ran both on cars in the past. As far as do you need springs or not, why not first replace the shocks and see where the new ones get you then work from there?

thanks that is what i need. any opinions on HD vs comfort. my ultimate goal is to get rid of the rear end sag.

Probably need to replace everything. These are old cars and with them...old parts especially worn out ones.

As far as teh HD or comfort I heard the HDs are very rough so it depends on how you like the car to drive.

oldtown
Naturally-aspirated

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02-15-2012, 01:33 PM #5
(02-14-2012, 06:15 PM)Purplecomputer
(02-14-2012, 10:17 AM)oldtown
(02-14-2012, 10:12 AM)Snipe656 I personally would not pay a premium for the Koni having ran both on cars in the past. As far as do you need springs or not, why not first replace the shocks and see where the new ones get you then work from there?

thanks that is what i need. any opinions on HD vs comfort. my ultimate goal is to get rid of the rear end sag.

Probably need to replace everything. These are old cars and with them...old parts especially worn out ones.

As far as teh HD or comfort I heard the HDs are very rough so it depends on how you like the car to drive.

i would love it if this car would smoke the tires. i am working on that . in the meantime i just want better handling and an end to the rear end sag. i drive in the mountains alot of WNC and 300-400 mile trips on the interstate a couple of times a month. thanks for the insight.

oldtown
02-15-2012, 01:33 PM #5

(02-14-2012, 06:15 PM)Purplecomputer
(02-14-2012, 10:17 AM)oldtown
(02-14-2012, 10:12 AM)Snipe656 I personally would not pay a premium for the Koni having ran both on cars in the past. As far as do you need springs or not, why not first replace the shocks and see where the new ones get you then work from there?

thanks that is what i need. any opinions on HD vs comfort. my ultimate goal is to get rid of the rear end sag.

Probably need to replace everything. These are old cars and with them...old parts especially worn out ones.

As far as teh HD or comfort I heard the HDs are very rough so it depends on how you like the car to drive.

i would love it if this car would smoke the tires. i am working on that . in the meantime i just want better handling and an end to the rear end sag. i drive in the mountains alot of WNC and 300-400 mile trips on the interstate a couple of times a month. thanks for the insight.

jan v deelen
OM605 under cunstruction

12
03-20-2012, 03:26 PM #6
last month i bought bildtein B8 sport on my girls car,
now i wish i ditn't.

bilstein is overal to soft only 15% harder then stock.
koni is 45% harder
so i whould go for koni yellow adjustable

jan v deelen
03-20-2012, 03:26 PM #6

last month i bought bildtein B8 sport on my girls car,
now i wish i ditn't.

bilstein is overal to soft only 15% harder then stock.
koni is 45% harder
so i whould go for koni yellow adjustable

Hercules
GT2559V

219
03-21-2012, 01:58 AM #7
Having installed many Bilstein h.d.shocks on the 126 body,never any complaints,too soft to hard. A few on the 123 body felt they were a little hard at first,but after a few months they were good. If you"re into racing of some sort go Koni. Just installed Bilstein h.d. shocks (5)days ago on my ride,300sd 82yr. ,Very solid,cannot bounce body at all,very good control on road,but not harsh. Hope this helps.
Hercules
03-21-2012, 01:58 AM #7

Having installed many Bilstein h.d.shocks on the 126 body,never any complaints,too soft to hard. A few on the 123 body felt they were a little hard at first,but after a few months they were good. If you"re into racing of some sort go Koni. Just installed Bilstein h.d. shocks (5)days ago on my ride,300sd 82yr. ,Very solid,cannot bounce body at all,very good control on road,but not harsh. Hope this helps.

Robert_UAH
K26-2

42
03-21-2012, 04:43 PM #8
Konis are worth if you are going to do autocrossing or HPDEs or anything like that otherwise Bilsteins. Also if you plan on lowering the car I would go Bilstein HDs over Comfort.
This post was last modified: 03-22-2012, 07:54 AM by Robert_UAH.
Robert_UAH
03-21-2012, 04:43 PM #8

Konis are worth if you are going to do autocrossing or HPDEs or anything like that otherwise Bilsteins. Also if you plan on lowering the car I would go Bilstein HDs over Comfort.

oldtown
Naturally-aspirated

10
03-22-2012, 08:55 AM #9
i am going to replace all shocks with bilstein HD's and new HD springs in the rear with the thickest springs pads/ isolaters i can buy.

who has the best deal on Bilstein shocks???
oldtown
03-22-2012, 08:55 AM #9

i am going to replace all shocks with bilstein HD's and new HD springs in the rear with the thickest springs pads/ isolaters i can buy.

who has the best deal on Bilstein shocks???

Hercules
GT2559V

219
03-22-2012, 10:02 PM #10
Auto Parts Warehouse,was the best price I could find.Front h.d.$66.95 , rear h.d. $70.95 ,free ship over $50.00
Rear camber is adjusted by pad thickness,thicker pad raises rear,(more spring tension),but also adjusts camber towards positive,wheels out at top. Good luck.
This post was last modified: 03-22-2012, 10:13 PM by Hercules.
Hercules
03-22-2012, 10:02 PM #10

Auto Parts Warehouse,was the best price I could find.Front h.d.$66.95 , rear h.d. $70.95 ,free ship over $50.00


Rear camber is adjusted by pad thickness,thicker pad raises rear,(more spring tension),but also adjusts camber towards positive,wheels out at top. Good luck.

oldtown
Naturally-aspirated

10
03-23-2012, 08:31 AM #11
(03-22-2012, 10:02 PM)Hercules Auto Parts Warehouse,was the best price I could find.Front h.d.$66.95 , rear h.d. $70.95 ,free ship over $50.00
Rear camber is adjusted by pad thickness,thicker pad raises rear,(more spring tension),but also adjusts camber towards positive,wheels out at top. Good luck.

thanks for the heads up, that is probably as cheap as you can find.

what size pads should i get??
oldtown
03-23-2012, 08:31 AM #11

(03-22-2012, 10:02 PM)Hercules Auto Parts Warehouse,was the best price I could find.Front h.d.$66.95 , rear h.d. $70.95 ,free ship over $50.00
Rear camber is adjusted by pad thickness,thicker pad raises rear,(more spring tension),but also adjusts camber towards positive,wheels out at top. Good luck.

thanks for the heads up, that is probably as cheap as you can find.

what size pads should i get??

Hercules
GT2559V

219
03-23-2012, 12:50 PM #12
All depends on where camber is. Want small amount of neg. camber for best handling ,best tire wear is zero camber. (Tip ) after driving freeway speeds for 1/2 hr or longer on flat straight, dry,warm road ,stop feel tires,(inside,middle,outside) which ever is warmest is where tire is contacting road the most. Load in trunk or rear seat will affect camber. Good luck.
Hercules
03-23-2012, 12:50 PM #12

All depends on where camber is. Want small amount of neg. camber for best handling ,best tire wear is zero camber. (Tip ) after driving freeway speeds for 1/2 hr or longer on flat straight, dry,warm road ,stop feel tires,(inside,middle,outside) which ever is warmest is where tire is contacting road the most. Load in trunk or rear seat will affect camber. Good luck.

 
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