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hd vs comfort

hd vs comfort

 
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winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
11-27-2011, 07:53 PM #1
so i was at jy and found a 190 w new bilstein comforts in the rear. i put them in my 87 today and was surprised at how relatively firm they were. for 10$ i cant complain.

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
11-27-2011, 07:53 PM #1

so i was at jy and found a 190 w new bilstein comforts in the rear. i put them in my 87 today and was surprised at how relatively firm they were. for 10$ i cant complain.


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

JustPassinThru
W123 and W124

491
11-27-2011, 09:06 PM #2
On the same theme, but I don't know whether this still holds true or not: back around 1993, a Mercedes dealership service rep in Fulda, Germany, where I was stationed with 11th Armored Cav --Herr Moritz, his name was, if memory serves-- told me that, if you want best handling and all-around performance on a W123 or any other Mercedes, buy Michelin tires. But for smoothest ride, and much quieter, buy Continentals.
This post was last modified: 11-27-2011, 09:07 PM by JustPassinThru.

Gone but not forgotten: two W123 sedans and two W124 wagons.
W124 1987 300TD wagon, for sale, $1000 (some assembly required).
JustPassinThru
11-27-2011, 09:06 PM #2

On the same theme, but I don't know whether this still holds true or not: back around 1993, a Mercedes dealership service rep in Fulda, Germany, where I was stationed with 11th Armored Cav --Herr Moritz, his name was, if memory serves-- told me that, if you want best handling and all-around performance on a W123 or any other Mercedes, buy Michelin tires. But for smoothest ride, and much quieter, buy Continentals.


Gone but not forgotten: two W123 sedans and two W124 wagons.
W124 1987 300TD wagon, for sale, $1000 (some assembly required).

iheartboost
Holset

422
11-27-2011, 10:19 PM #3
man i would love a stiff ride. driving this mercedes feels like im driving on pillows. good for people that want comfort but i need more road feel.

to be honest my cobalt could use some stiffer springs. i think i would be happiest in a race car driving around... lol

1998 E300TD 7.5mm pump and hx35 to come!
00 Mustang gt drift car

iheartboost
11-27-2011, 10:19 PM #3

man i would love a stiff ride. driving this mercedes feels like im driving on pillows. good for people that want comfort but i need more road feel.

to be honest my cobalt could use some stiffer springs. i think i would be happiest in a race car driving around... lol


1998 E300TD 7.5mm pump and hx35 to come!
00 Mustang gt drift car

sassparilla_kid
diesel > all other fuels

1,618
11-28-2011, 12:56 AM #4
Somebody needs to develop a hydraulic suspension sytem like they had on the old 600 limos, I saw on Top Gear they could switch from low pressure for luxury driving to higher pressure for evading terrorists and what not Tongue

-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
sassparilla_kid
11-28-2011, 12:56 AM #4

Somebody needs to develop a hydraulic suspension sytem like they had on the old 600 limos, I saw on Top Gear they could switch from low pressure for luxury driving to higher pressure for evading terrorists and what not Tongue


-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!

mike-81-240d
more like mike-84-300d now

427
11-28-2011, 01:35 AM #5
I have brand new HD's... They are very harsh. But hey I like it rough.

1981 Mercedes 300TD Lowered 4 speed manual Holset HX30 
mike-81-240d
11-28-2011, 01:35 AM #5

I have brand new HD's... They are very harsh. But hey I like it rough.


1981 Mercedes 300TD Lowered 4 speed manual Holset HX30 

jonbobshinigin
Holset

292
11-29-2011, 05:56 PM #6
My 124 Wagon has bad shocks when I got it so I can hardly give you a comparison, but I went ahead and put some HDs in and it was a big difference. That said, prior to the upgrade, I would bump the bumper going into a gas station slowly so they were way done! It was the beginning of my full suspension overhaul so as I said, I cannot tell you how it compares on my car. However, it is much more firm than any other 124 I have ridden in and much louder I think as well. As of now I have done EVERYTHING except rear hydroshocks and springs all the way around. I plan on putting some Sportline Springs in soon.

1987 300TDT - 260,000 Miles
>>275HP OM603 Project Profile here<<

jonbobshinigin
11-29-2011, 05:56 PM #6

My 124 Wagon has bad shocks when I got it so I can hardly give you a comparison, but I went ahead and put some HDs in and it was a big difference. That said, prior to the upgrade, I would bump the bumper going into a gas station slowly so they were way done! It was the beginning of my full suspension overhaul so as I said, I cannot tell you how it compares on my car. However, it is much more firm than any other 124 I have ridden in and much louder I think as well. As of now I have done EVERYTHING except rear hydroshocks and springs all the way around. I plan on putting some Sportline Springs in soon.


1987 300TDT - 260,000 Miles
>>275HP OM603 Project Profile here<<

JustPassinThru
W123 and W124

491
11-29-2011, 09:03 PM #7
@winmutt: Do you notice any difference in ride noise, with the Comforts?

Gone but not forgotten: two W123 sedans and two W124 wagons.
W124 1987 300TD wagon, for sale, $1000 (some assembly required).
JustPassinThru
11-29-2011, 09:03 PM #7

@winmutt: Do you notice any difference in ride noise, with the Comforts?


Gone but not forgotten: two W123 sedans and two W124 wagons.
W124 1987 300TD wagon, for sale, $1000 (some assembly required).

w123love
Stockish

354
11-30-2011, 12:59 AM #8
(11-27-2011, 10:19 PM)iheartboost man i would love a stiff ride.

whoah. TMI Big Grin

if it don’t blow black...take it back.

1982 300TDT 4 Speed 196K Standard Beige “VEGEWGN”. 300GD FW. Walbro FRC-8 Fuel Pump. ZadaTech LCD Boost, EGT, & Fuel Pressure gauge. Non-EGR Exhaust and Intake Manifold. 3/2 Valves gone. Soon to have Elsbett WVO conversion
1981 300D 314K Midnight Blue “The Blue Car”, Lovecrap system, owned 25 years+
1985 300TD White 198K “Betty White” Pure beauty

The VEGEWGN
w123love
11-30-2011, 12:59 AM #8

(11-27-2011, 10:19 PM)iheartboost man i would love a stiff ride.

whoah. TMI Big Grin


if it don’t blow black...take it back.

1982 300TDT 4 Speed 196K Standard Beige “VEGEWGN”. 300GD FW. Walbro FRC-8 Fuel Pump. ZadaTech LCD Boost, EGT, & Fuel Pressure gauge. Non-EGR Exhaust and Intake Manifold. 3/2 Valves gone. Soon to have Elsbett WVO conversion
1981 300D 314K Midnight Blue “The Blue Car”, Lovecrap system, owned 25 years+
1985 300TD White 198K “Betty White” Pure beauty

The VEGEWGN

sassparilla_kid
diesel &gt; all other fuels

1,618
11-30-2011, 01:51 AM #9
^^^Hahaha

-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
sassparilla_kid
11-30-2011, 01:51 AM #9

^^^Hahaha


-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!

mike-81-240d
more like mike-84-300d now

427
11-30-2011, 04:11 AM #10
(11-30-2011, 12:59 AM)w123love
(11-27-2011, 10:19 PM)iheartboost man i would love a stiff ride.

whoah. TMI Big Grin

Hey it's alright... Some of us like it harsh/rough.
(11-29-2011, 05:56 PM)jonbobshinigin My 124 Wagon has bad shocks when I got it so I can hardly give you a comparison, but I went ahead and put some HDs in and it was a big difference. That said, prior to the upgrade, I would bump the bumper going into a gas station slowly so they were way done! It was the beginning of my full suspension overhaul so as I said, I cannot tell you how it compares on my car. However, it is much more firm than any other 124 I have ridden in and much louder I think as well. As of now I have done EVERYTHING except rear hydroshocks and springs all the way around. I plan on putting some Sportline Springs in soon.

I didn't notice any noise difference. Are you sure you didn't change tires at the same time?... Wink
This post was last modified: 11-30-2011, 04:12 AM by mike-81-240d.

1981 Mercedes 300TD Lowered 4 speed manual Holset HX30 
mike-81-240d
11-30-2011, 04:11 AM #10

(11-30-2011, 12:59 AM)w123love
(11-27-2011, 10:19 PM)iheartboost man i would love a stiff ride.

whoah. TMI Big Grin

Hey it's alright... Some of us like it harsh/rough.
(11-29-2011, 05:56 PM)jonbobshinigin My 124 Wagon has bad shocks when I got it so I can hardly give you a comparison, but I went ahead and put some HDs in and it was a big difference. That said, prior to the upgrade, I would bump the bumper going into a gas station slowly so they were way done! It was the beginning of my full suspension overhaul so as I said, I cannot tell you how it compares on my car. However, it is much more firm than any other 124 I have ridden in and much louder I think as well. As of now I have done EVERYTHING except rear hydroshocks and springs all the way around. I plan on putting some Sportline Springs in soon.

I didn't notice any noise difference. Are you sure you didn't change tires at the same time?... Wink


1981 Mercedes 300TD Lowered 4 speed manual Holset HX30 

iheartboost
Holset

422
12-02-2011, 04:56 PM #11
(11-30-2011, 12:59 AM)w123love whoah. TMI Big Grin

man you went there.. lol

1998 E300TD 7.5mm pump and hx35 to come!
00 Mustang gt drift car

iheartboost
12-02-2011, 04:56 PM #11

(11-30-2011, 12:59 AM)w123love whoah. TMI Big Grin

man you went there.. lol


1998 E300TD 7.5mm pump and hx35 to come!
00 Mustang gt drift car

willbhere4u
Six in a row make her go!

2,507
12-02-2011, 06:11 PM #12
I think the HD's are the way to go I put them on my 240d and love them they are firm around corners but smooth over bumps

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
12-02-2011, 06:11 PM #12

I think the HD's are the way to go I put them on my 240d and love them they are firm around corners but smooth over bumps


1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
12-03-2011, 12:32 PM #13
(11-29-2011, 09:03 PM)JustPassinThru @winmutt: Do you notice any difference in ride noise, with the Comforts?

Ride noise? No. The comforts are going to hold me over to spring. I am still getting rubbing on the rear fenders in the hard corners....

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
12-03-2011, 12:32 PM #13

(11-29-2011, 09:03 PM)JustPassinThru @winmutt: Do you notice any difference in ride noise, with the Comforts?

Ride noise? No. The comforts are going to hold me over to spring. I am still getting rubbing on the rear fenders in the hard corners....


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

iheartboost
Holset

422
12-21-2011, 10:29 PM #14
Along the same topic whats the most damped shock made for the 124s?

1998 E300TD 7.5mm pump and hx35 to come!
00 Mustang gt drift car

iheartboost
12-21-2011, 10:29 PM #14

Along the same topic whats the most damped shock made for the 124s?


1998 E300TD 7.5mm pump and hx35 to come!
00 Mustang gt drift car

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
12-23-2011, 12:27 AM #15
Good luck getting any numbers! I dare you to call the manufacturers and get us numbers!

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
12-23-2011, 12:27 AM #15

Good luck getting any numbers! I dare you to call the manufacturers and get us numbers!


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

iheartboost
Holset

422
12-23-2011, 12:34 AM #16
im not really looking for specifications, just which manufacture makes the stiffest shock. i know koni makes a set that are adjustable for our cars. that might be my best bet.

1998 E300TD 7.5mm pump and hx35 to come!
00 Mustang gt drift car

iheartboost
12-23-2011, 12:34 AM #16

im not really looking for specifications, just which manufacture makes the stiffest shock. i know koni makes a set that are adjustable for our cars. that might be my best bet.


1998 E300TD 7.5mm pump and hx35 to come!
00 Mustang gt drift car

 
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