STD Tuning Drivetrain Adaptor Kit to use W124 5-speed in W123 cars

Adaptor Kit to use W124 5-speed in W123 cars

Adaptor Kit to use W124 5-speed in W123 cars

 
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Greazzer
Superturbo

1,277
08-30-2011, 06:04 AM #1
This is a post from Peach Parts. Not sure if I "cut-and-pasted" correctly or not. In any event, may be helpful for those like myself looking for a 5 speed transmission:


"I saw this and I thought of all of you automatic transmission haters out there!

{I don't know why you all hate them so much - but here goes this one's for you baby!}

http://link.marktplaats.nl/478988493

Because this link won't last forever I've made some screen shots for you.



A rough translation for you non Dutch speakers out there - done by yours truly - so it will be a bit off!

Adapter kit for older 4 speed W123 (and other older models) to enable you to fit a W124 5 speed gearbox.

The adapter [rings] replaces the transmission adapter to allow you fit the W124 5 speed gearbox. The starter remains in the old position.

This kit only contains the adapter rings. Other alterations such as transmission mount and the propshaft are simple enough for you to work out yourself [!]

525 Euros for the adapter rings (excluding the gearbox and the engine)

...





So you'd still need to sort out the propshaft, flywheel (if it wasn't a manual one), transmission mount, and other bits such as a gear lever in the right place (perhaps?)...

Enjoy!
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Greazzer
08-30-2011, 06:04 AM #1

This is a post from Peach Parts. Not sure if I "cut-and-pasted" correctly or not. In any event, may be helpful for those like myself looking for a 5 speed transmission:


"I saw this and I thought of all of you automatic transmission haters out there!

{I don't know why you all hate them so much - but here goes this one's for you baby!}

http://link.marktplaats.nl/478988493

Because this link won't last forever I've made some screen shots for you.



A rough translation for you non Dutch speakers out there - done by yours truly - so it will be a bit off!

Adapter kit for older 4 speed W123 (and other older models) to enable you to fit a W124 5 speed gearbox.

The adapter [rings] replaces the transmission adapter to allow you fit the W124 5 speed gearbox. The starter remains in the old position.

This kit only contains the adapter rings. Other alterations such as transmission mount and the propshaft are simple enough for you to work out yourself [!]

525 Euros for the adapter rings (excluding the gearbox and the engine)

...





So you'd still need to sort out the propshaft, flywheel (if it wasn't a manual one), transmission mount, and other bits such as a gear lever in the right place (perhaps?)...

Enjoy!
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Ninth Year Anniversary with STD on 1-9-2020

visit:  www.dieselfuelinjector.guru

Project 2018: Really get the car finished -- Turbo OM617 greater than 175 MPH goal.

RED W123 - left Germany as 240D in 1982.  Full AMG body kit less rear apron, 2:65LSD, five speed Getrag 717.400, manual steering, read leather interior, manual brake conversion, electric water pump (EWP), and a bunch of other goodies ...

winmutt
bitbanger

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08-30-2011, 08:10 AM #2
$900 + shipping.

Not sure how the starter manages to extend that far?

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
08-30-2011, 08:10 AM #2

$900 + shipping.

Not sure how the starter manages to extend that far?


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

JB3
Superturbo

1,795
08-30-2011, 09:02 AM #3
(08-30-2011, 08:10 AM)winmutt $900 + shipping.

Not sure how the starter manages to extend that far?

It seems to me that the flywheel and starter could be in the same place as would be stock, so it would still engage properly, but how do they make up the extension of pushing the transmission back?

I feel like the kit is missing a part, an internal spacer, or something is unexplained. Do they space out the flywheel? at which point Winmutt's question comes into play.




1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

JB3
08-30-2011, 09:02 AM #3

(08-30-2011, 08:10 AM)winmutt $900 + shipping.

Not sure how the starter manages to extend that far?

It seems to me that the flywheel and starter could be in the same place as would be stock, so it would still engage properly, but how do they make up the extension of pushing the transmission back?

I feel like the kit is missing a part, an internal spacer, or something is unexplained. Do they space out the flywheel? at which point Winmutt's question comes into play.




1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

Greazzer
Superturbo

1,277
08-30-2011, 09:10 AM #4
The starter adapter kit ?

Getrag 717.400, Manual 5 speed transmission questions:

Does anyone have any very rough guesses as to the universal supply and demand for these?

I contacted and received (I was shocked) a response from a head honcho at Getrag about this transmission. He indicated there were really no records. A thread dedicated on this would be nice, to include what type of flywheel is needed, the trans member, driveshaft issues, et cet. I really don't know a great deal, other than it's going to be tough to find a good working 717.400 AND a 4-speed donor car will most likely be needed.

Ninth Year Anniversary with STD on 1-9-2020

visit:  www.dieselfuelinjector.guru

Project 2018: Really get the car finished -- Turbo OM617 greater than 175 MPH goal.

RED W123 - left Germany as 240D in 1982.  Full AMG body kit less rear apron, 2:65LSD, five speed Getrag 717.400, manual steering, read leather interior, manual brake conversion, electric water pump (EWP), and a bunch of other goodies ...
Greazzer
08-30-2011, 09:10 AM #4

The starter adapter kit ?

Getrag 717.400, Manual 5 speed transmission questions:

Does anyone have any very rough guesses as to the universal supply and demand for these?

I contacted and received (I was shocked) a response from a head honcho at Getrag about this transmission. He indicated there were really no records. A thread dedicated on this would be nice, to include what type of flywheel is needed, the trans member, driveshaft issues, et cet. I really don't know a great deal, other than it's going to be tough to find a good working 717.400 AND a 4-speed donor car will most likely be needed.


Ninth Year Anniversary with STD on 1-9-2020

visit:  www.dieselfuelinjector.guru

Project 2018: Really get the car finished -- Turbo OM617 greater than 175 MPH goal.

RED W123 - left Germany as 240D in 1982.  Full AMG body kit less rear apron, 2:65LSD, five speed Getrag 717.400, manual steering, read leather interior, manual brake conversion, electric water pump (EWP), and a bunch of other goodies ...

willbhere4u
Six in a row make her go!

2,507
08-30-2011, 09:41 AM #5
Any one else notice it's bolted to a fuel injected gas engine?

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
08-30-2011, 09:41 AM #5

Any one else notice it's bolted to a fuel injected gas engine?


1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

JB3
Superturbo

1,795
08-30-2011, 07:42 PM #6
(08-30-2011, 09:41 AM)willbhere4u Any one else notice it's bolted to a fuel injected gas engine?

yeah, I was looking at an older PP thread from a couple years ago that was talking about how this kit is specifically to modernize the older gas engines and give them an overdrive, I guess for the old classics or something. Someone had pointed out that the old gas engines and the iron diesels apparently have the same bolt pattern.

Like a euro gearvenders overdrive

1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

JB3
08-30-2011, 07:42 PM #6

(08-30-2011, 09:41 AM)willbhere4u Any one else notice it's bolted to a fuel injected gas engine?

yeah, I was looking at an older PP thread from a couple years ago that was talking about how this kit is specifically to modernize the older gas engines and give them an overdrive, I guess for the old classics or something. Someone had pointed out that the old gas engines and the iron diesels apparently have the same bolt pattern.

Like a euro gearvenders overdrive


1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

 
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