ForcedInduction's 1982 300D
ForcedInduction's 1982 300D
(07-05-2009, 02:58 AM)ForcedInduction ....
If anyone knows where to get a good HE341Ve turbine housing or a core turbo for a reasonable cost, let me know. I've been putting want ads on every turbo and diesel forum I know of.
Well damn, that sucks. I guess that happens with a hard to find turbo.
Gota love Mercedes Diesels!
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DeliveryValve
07-05-2009, 03:00 AM #51(07-05-2009, 02:58 AM)ForcedInduction ....
If anyone knows where to get a good HE341Ve turbine housing or a core turbo for a reasonable cost, let me know. I've been putting want ads on every turbo and diesel forum I know of.
Well damn, that sucks. I guess that happens with a hard to find turbo.
Gota love Mercedes Diesels!
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New dynolicious run from tonight.
(Note: Stock settings M-Pump)
74hp is about right. I figure 88hp non-turbo fueling rate minus a few HP absorbed uselessly driving the turbo.
Compare to the stock MW-pump.
So "feels about as fast as a turbo" isn't a far off description.
ForcedInduction
07-09-2009, 03:30 AM
#53
This last weekend I changed the soggy and torn engine mounts, fixed the drivers door lock and discovered my odometer died at 530 miles. Looks like no mpg readings for a while...
New dynolicious run from tonight.
(Note: Stock settings M-Pump)
74hp is about right. I figure 88hp non-turbo fueling rate minus a few HP absorbed uselessly driving the turbo.
Compare to the stock MW-pump.
So "feels about as fast as a turbo" isn't a far off description.
Kickdown finally works but the reverse light still won't come on and it will start when in gear.
ForcedInduction
07-14-2009, 04:21 AM
#55
Got a bit accomplished tonight. I turned up the pump some more, changed the ATF, changed the power steering fluid and return hose, adjusted the boost up to 12psi, changed the belts, upgraded to the 6" wp pulley and 9-blade plastic fan, tightened the steering box another 1/2 turn ccw and repaired the cut kickdown and reverse light wires.
Kickdown finally works but the reverse light still won't come on and it will start when in gear.
(07-14-2009, 04:21 AM)ForcedInduction Kickdown finally works but the reverse light still won't come on and it will start when in gear.
I got a NSS and harness from an 84 300SD for $11. I just have to remove the electric speedo wires and change on my 4-prong plug in place of the SD's 6.
ForcedInduction
07-14-2009, 04:26 PM
#56
(07-14-2009, 04:21 AM)ForcedInduction Kickdown finally works but the reverse light still won't come on and it will start when in gear.
I got a NSS and harness from an 84 300SD for $11. I just have to remove the electric speedo wires and change on my 4-prong plug in place of the SD's 6.
Turned up the modulator 1.5 turns. Its a little too hard now but it should be better after the next pump adjustment.
Some little bitch cried to the boss about a few oil drips on the floor from last night, now I can't bring the car into the shop.
ForcedInduction
07-15-2009, 12:07 AM
#58
Got the NSS working again.
Turned up the modulator 1.5 turns. Its a little too hard now but it should be better after the next pump adjustment.
Some little bitch cried to the boss about a few oil drips on the floor from last night, now I can't bring the car into the shop.
The 2256 was badly in need of cleaning. Soot was caked so bad its no wonder the 240D could boost to 15psi, the vanes weren't opening all the way.
I also swapped the Galant seat into the 300. The stock MB seat is just too unsupportive, high and bouncy.
ForcedInduction
07-20-2009, 03:07 AM
#59
The 2256V is off the 240D and waiting for manifold gaskets to arrive.
The 2256 was badly in need of cleaning. Soot was caked so bad its no wonder the 240D could boost to 15psi, the vanes weren't opening all the way.
I also swapped the Galant seat into the 300. The stock MB seat is just too unsupportive, high and bouncy.
I got a heck of a deal on manifold gaskets, two kits for $20.55.Power is a little low, its only making 11psi and I need closer to 14psi.
It cut a tenth off the 1/4mile and 0-40 acceleration is significantly quicker but top end is lagging because of the low boost.
ForcedInduction
07-22-2009, 03:09 AM
#60
Ihe 2256V is in. I got a heck of a deal on manifold gaskets, two kits for $20.55.
Power is a little low, its only making 11psi and I need closer to 14psi.
It cut a tenth off the 1/4mile and 0-40 acceleration is significantly quicker but top end is lagging because of the low boost.
(07-20-2009, 03:07 AM)ForcedInduction ....
The 2256 was badly in need of cleaning. Soot was caked so bad its no wonder the 240D could boost to 15psi, the vanes weren't opening all the way....
How does one go about cleaning out the soot? Care to share any products or techniques?
Gota love Mercedes Diesels!
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DeliveryValve
07-27-2009, 02:50 AM #61(07-20-2009, 03:07 AM)ForcedInduction ....
The 2256 was badly in need of cleaning. Soot was caked so bad its no wonder the 240D could boost to 15psi, the vanes weren't opening all the way....
How does one go about cleaning out the soot? Care to share any products or techniques?
Gota love Mercedes Diesels!
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Don't use a lubricant on the mechanicals, it will attract soot and work as an abrasive. Do use plenty of high temp anti seize on the turbine housing to center housing joint though.
Occasional Italian Tuneups will keep it clean (The same way DPFs burn off soot). The soot was so bad since my 240 knocks I rarely pushed it harder than 900*f pre-turbo for long.
ForcedInduction
07-27-2009, 07:13 AM
#62
I use a scraper on all the flat iron surfaces and the seal/shield washer under the turbine, a brass brush on the vane mechanicals and brake cleaner to remove the fine soot.
Don't use a lubricant on the mechanicals, it will attract soot and work as an abrasive. Do use plenty of high temp anti seize on the turbine housing to center housing joint though.
Occasional Italian Tuneups will keep it clean (The same way DPFs burn off soot). The soot was so bad since my 240 knocks I rarely pushed it harder than 900*f pre-turbo for long.
Thanks for the tips.
Gota love Mercedes Diesels!
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DeliveryValve
07-27-2009, 09:53 AM #63Ah, a TDI'er document. I have forgotten about this one.
Thanks for the tips.
Gota love Mercedes Diesels!
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Finally, 100whp.
When I get the air-water intercooler installed I'll do an official dyno.
ForcedInduction
07-28-2009, 07:49 AM
#64
New run now that I have my 15psi and full power. The pump still has some adjustment room left, I may turn it up some more before the races on the 2nd.
Finally, 100whp.
When I get the air-water intercooler installed I'll do an official dyno.
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
08-05-2009, 05:58 PM #67that's a cool pic looks like the pic form the article I got!
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
Now I'm off to switch to 15W50 synthetic, make a bracket to stop the starter heat shield's ringing, turn up the modulator pressure a tad more and reclock the driveshaft to stop some driveline vibration.
ForcedInduction
08-10-2009, 11:39 PM
#68
I just got done doing a mountain run 5,100ft to 8,600ft elevation, 15psi (maximum safe speed for a GT's 56mm compressor wheel at this altitude), EGTs never went past 1,100*F and the coolant stayed between 60-85*c.
Now I'm off to switch to 15W50 synthetic, make a bracket to stop the starter heat shield's ringing, turn up the modulator pressure a tad more and reclock the driveshaft to stop some driveline vibration.
ForcedInduction
08-11-2009, 05:06 AM
#69
The driveshaft was 1 spline off, getting it back on right made a hell of a difference in highway noise and vibration!
I don't think thats too bad considering its an automatic with a 3.46 rear end.
ForcedInduction
09-20-2009, 03:20 AM
#71
I did a 117 mile highway run today going to a Colorado live steam open house (Denver to Byers). 4.973 gallons were used for 23.53mpg.
I don't think thats too bad considering its an automatic with a 3.46 rear end.
(08-11-2009, 05:06 AM)ForcedInduction The driveshaft was 1 spline off, getting it back on right made a hell of a difference in highway noise and vibration!
FI will you expand upon this? I am not sure I unsderstand, and may be needing to check my drive line, as it has a vibration as well. ( after I took it all apart and put a 4 speed in)
(08-11-2009, 05:06 AM)ForcedInduction The driveshaft was 1 spline off, getting it back on right made a hell of a difference in highway noise and vibration!
FI will you expand upon this? I am not sure I unsderstand, and may be needing to check my drive line, as it has a vibration as well. ( after I took it all apart and put a 4 speed in)
ForcedInduction
09-20-2009, 06:33 PM
#73
When I swapped the diff I didn't get the driveshaft sections exactly lined up.
The fugly coverless headlight bezels have been replaced with a proper set.
The VNT vane screw was adjusted in 1/4 turn to make up for the extra intake volume it has to fill (lag).
The air filter was showing 12"h2o restriction at full power so a new one is going in right now.
ForcedInduction
09-20-2009, 09:20 PM
#74
I have adjusted the cam timing. It was at 7* due to chain elongation so I installed the 4* offset woodruff key I had purchased last week. I was going to order 4* and 6* keys since I didn't already know the elongation, but I didn't want to waste money on a useless spare. The dealer wanted $26 each, even the parts guy had a "wow" when he saw the initial price so he knocked it down to $12.
The fugly coverless headlight bezels have been replaced with a proper set.
The VNT vane screw was adjusted in 1/4 turn to make up for the extra intake volume it has to fill (lag).
The air filter was showing 12"h2o restriction at full power so a new one is going in right now.
Its prepped and ready to go for the Tuesday morning dyno session.
ForcedInduction
09-29-2009, 12:01 AM
#75
I replaced the clear vinyl tubes with proper silicone heater hose, installed a filler neck with pressurized cap and put new coolant in the intercooler.
Its prepped and ready to go for the Tuesday morning dyno session.
196lb/ft @ 2600rpm
The graph shown is a comparison of my 240D 3.0VNT and the 300D's last run. The 240's MW pump is stock except for the ALDA removed. It had a GT2256V and an A/A intercooler.
A little below expectations in the torque department, but HP is right given the "~145hp limit" of the 5.5mm elements with ~20% drivetrain loss.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7HRDq3RdJU
ForcedInduction
09-29-2009, 12:57 PM
#76
115hp @ 3500rpm
196lb/ft @ 2600rpm
The graph shown is a comparison of my 240D 3.0VNT and the 300D's last run. The 240's MW pump is stock except for the ALDA removed. It had a GT2256V and an A/A intercooler.
A little below expectations in the torque department, but HP is right given the "~145hp limit" of the 5.5mm elements with ~20% drivetrain loss.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7HRDq3RdJU
The inside of the engine and lower oil pan didn't have a speck of sludge and the pickup screen was clear, the synthetic is definitely doing its job.
ForcedInduction
10-19-2009, 09:51 PM
#78
Tonight I replaced the lower oil pan gasket and turbo drain tube seal. The dried up seal was a royal PITA to dig out but the new one plopped right in place.
The inside of the engine and lower oil pan didn't have a speck of sludge and the pickup screen was clear, the synthetic is definitely doing its job.
Next issue to tackle is the driver window glass came out of the arm.
ForcedInduction
04-29-2010, 06:12 AM
#79
The GT2256V is back on and it runs as good as ever. Better even, since I've made some cooling system and vacuum control improvements. I also finally got around to making the second intercooler bracket to stop its horizontal vibration with the engine.
Next issue to tackle is the driver window glass came out of the arm.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjdtHnRLUHQ
ForcedInduction
05-06-2010, 08:21 AM
#80
0-60mph run. No power-braking. 12.5sec?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjdtHnRLUHQ
(05-06-2010, 08:21 AM)ForcedInduction 0-60mph run. No power-braking. 12.5sec?
That's a good run!
How are the EGTs with the engine coolant plumbed A/W intercooler?
John Robbins
'05 E320 CDI - 118k - Faaaaaast!!
'87 300TD - 317k - Cracked head... but an OM606 is on the way!
'79 300SD - 295k - Bad engine = project car!
(05-06-2010, 08:21 AM)ForcedInduction 0-60mph run. No power-braking. 12.5sec?
That's a good run!
How are the EGTs with the engine coolant plumbed A/W intercooler?
John Robbins
'05 E320 CDI - 118k - Faaaaaast!!
'87 300TD - 317k - Cracked head... but an OM606 is on the way!
'79 300SD - 295k - Bad engine = project car!
(05-06-2010, 01:25 PM)Tymbrymi How are the EGTs with the engine coolant plumbed A/W intercooler?
It will hit 1250*f at around 85mph from a standstill. The intercooler has no problem keeping up with the air since it only shares fluid volume with the engine circuit, not flow. The connection with the engine has a 1/8" orifice so the levels and pressures can equalize but limit flow between the two to a minimum. Bulk engine filling is done through the upper radiator hose.
Reaching 1250 is from the long injection duration of the small plungers, a 7mm upgrade should bring the burn time down cooler.
ForcedInduction
05-06-2010, 06:00 PM
#82
(05-06-2010, 01:25 PM)Tymbrymi How are the EGTs with the engine coolant plumbed A/W intercooler?
It will hit 1250*f at around 85mph from a standstill. The intercooler has no problem keeping up with the air since it only shares fluid volume with the engine circuit, not flow. The connection with the engine has a 1/8" orifice so the levels and pressures can equalize but limit flow between the two to a minimum. Bulk engine filling is done through the upper radiator hose.
Reaching 1250 is from the long injection duration of the small plungers, a 7mm upgrade should bring the burn time down cooler.
1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects
1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98
Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
05-06-2010, 06:55 PM #831250* is 200* more than I ever saw with my IC. I am not running an IC now with the MW and still only see 1050*. I am using a VDO gauge, maybe it is not as sensitve as the ISSPRO you are using or there is something else differnet?
1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects
1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98
Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
'98 E300 Turbo "Juliette" - Brabus wheels and almost all the options a w210 could have
2007 Chevy 2500HD CCSB Duramax with about 400-500 rwhp depending on the tune I use
1983 300D Silver Exterior/Black inside - Sold and will be missed, may we never meet in a PnP.
altitude? I'm not sure where forced is in colorado but I would assume altitude could come cause the higher EGT even on a turbo engine. I could be wrong though
'98 E300 Turbo "Juliette" - Brabus wheels and almost all the options a w210 could have
2007 Chevy 2500HD CCSB Duramax with about 400-500 rwhp depending on the tune I use
1983 300D Silver Exterior/Black inside - Sold and will be missed, may we never meet in a PnP.
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
05-07-2010, 10:10 PM #85He also has his pump tuned up a bit
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
(05-07-2010, 10:10 PM)willbhere4u He also has his pump tuned up a bit
I was running the same pump "M" with basically the same tuning.
I think capflya may have something there with altitude. He is near Denver and I rarely get above 1200 ft. usually around 350.
1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects
1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98
Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
05-07-2010, 10:34 PM #86(05-07-2010, 10:10 PM)willbhere4u He also has his pump tuned up a bit
I was running the same pump "M" with basically the same tuning.
I think capflya may have something there with altitude. He is near Denver and I rarely get above 1200 ft. usually around 350.
1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects
1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98
Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
05-07-2010, 10:53 PM #87We are around 5k up here in the Denver area
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
I'd really like to find a GT2556V, but a GT2559V wouldn't be objectionable.
ForcedInduction
05-08-2010, 07:20 AM
#88
Right. That means a higher pressure ratio for the same boost and more pressure is needed to produce the same airflow as an engine at sea level. The higher intake heat is easily handled by the intercooler, but the exhaust backpressure of it all is what really hurts. At 10psi its close to 1:1, but at 15psi (especially in the upper RPMs) it can reach 33psi. Thats why I bumped down from 18psi, EMP was peaking at nearly 40psi by redline!
I'd really like to find a GT2556V, but a GT2559V wouldn't be objectionable.
New and improved larger air filter design.
CCV system is vented to the road to prevent intercooler fouling.
A coolant filter was added to try and remove the remaining sediment that triple flushing didn't get out. Its a g@s filter (Fram G3) but so far its working well at catching the water particulates without restricting flow.
I also added a bottle of Redline Water Wetter to both circuits. So far it seems to be working well, its staying rock steady on 82*c where before it would creep to 85*c at low speeds.
ForcedInduction
05-16-2010, 04:22 PM
#89
Some advancements.
New and improved larger air filter design.
CCV system is vented to the road to prevent intercooler fouling.
A coolant filter was added to try and remove the remaining sediment that triple flushing didn't get out. Its a g@s filter (Fram G3) but so far its working well at catching the water particulates without restricting flow.
I also added a bottle of Redline Water Wetter to both circuits. So far it seems to be working well, its staying rock steady on 82*c where before it would creep to 85*c at low speeds.
John Robbins
'05 E320 CDI - 118k - Faaaaaast!!
'87 300TD - 317k - Cracked head... but an OM606 is on the way!
'79 300SD - 295k - Bad engine = project car!
What kind of stuff have you found in the coolant filter? Always been kinda curious what kind of "stuff" was floating around in our coolant...
John Robbins
'05 E320 CDI - 118k - Faaaaaast!!
'87 300TD - 317k - Cracked head... but an OM606 is on the way!
'79 300SD - 295k - Bad engine = project car!
ForcedInduction
06-05-2010, 05:59 AM
#92
Mostly rust particles left over from the previous owner's old coolant. That filter plugged up and collapsed after a few hours so I removed it. I've got a leaking freeze plug so when I change it I'll do an acid flush to get rid of it all for good.
(06-05-2010, 05:59 AM)ForcedInduction That filter plugged up and collapsed after a few hours so I removed it.
Woah!! How nasty did it look when you took it out?
John Robbins
'05 E320 CDI - 118k - Faaaaaast!!
'87 300TD - 317k - Cracked head... but an OM606 is on the way!
'79 300SD - 295k - Bad engine = project car!
(06-05-2010, 05:59 AM)ForcedInduction That filter plugged up and collapsed after a few hours so I removed it.
Woah!! How nasty did it look when you took it out?
John Robbins
'05 E320 CDI - 118k - Faaaaaast!!
'87 300TD - 317k - Cracked head... but an OM606 is on the way!
'79 300SD - 295k - Bad engine = project car!
ForcedInduction
06-05-2010, 05:20 PM
#94
It was mostly that rust particulate, so pretty much a darker orange color. Though the waterwetter gave it a pink tinge.
ForcedInduction
06-14-2010, 08:22 PM
#95
Got a new speedo cable for $5 from the picknpull. The top half of the clamp on the tranny is broken off, but with the bolt in place it clamps the cable in place just the same. No more wobbly speedo either!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiTTEj-5Epk
ForcedInduction
06-14-2010, 09:46 PM
#96
Second 0-60 run, now with the kickdown solenoid working.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiTTEj-5Epk
I've also got a new coolant bottle and hose. I'll be reseparating the IC and engine cooling systems. Combining the two works, but not as great as I had hoped. Even though its only a 1/8" orifice to the engine side it still leaches flow from the IC pump and the leaking freeze plug causes air to build up in the IC system.
ForcedInduction
08-16-2010, 05:38 PM
#100
Just waiting for it to arrive!
I've also got a new coolant bottle and hose. I'll be reseparating the IC and engine cooling systems. Combining the two works, but not as great as I had hoped. Even though its only a 1/8" orifice to the engine side it still leaches flow from the IC pump and the leaking freeze plug causes air to build up in the IC system.
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