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wlockerb
HX35

27
06-12-2011, 09:15 PM #1
I am starting this thread because i am having the same frustrations that everyone out there is suffering. I CAN"T FIND ELEMENTS FOR MY PUMP! I have seen the thread for ordering 10mm and 8mm elements for the mw pumps. I have been in direct contact with CHJ and 10mm elements have been on back order for 4 months now. I know people want them but we can't find them. What was the problem and how did others get them that have had success ordering them? Has anyone thought about having custom elements made? I know its possible but is it economically feasible? Anyone chime in here and help to throw out some part numbers that they KNOW are going to work with the mw pumps. I have a spare pump so I am more than willing to experiment I just need parts like everyone else!

1985 300sd is in the rebuild process now, upgraded pump to 8mm elements(if i can ever get parts), hx35 turbo off of a cummins 5.9

wlockerb
06-12-2011, 09:15 PM #1

I am starting this thread because i am having the same frustrations that everyone out there is suffering. I CAN"T FIND ELEMENTS FOR MY PUMP! I have seen the thread for ordering 10mm and 8mm elements for the mw pumps. I have been in direct contact with CHJ and 10mm elements have been on back order for 4 months now. I know people want them but we can't find them. What was the problem and how did others get them that have had success ordering them? Has anyone thought about having custom elements made? I know its possible but is it economically feasible? Anyone chime in here and help to throw out some part numbers that they KNOW are going to work with the mw pumps. I have a spare pump so I am more than willing to experiment I just need parts like everyone else!


1985 300sd is in the rebuild process now, upgraded pump to 8mm elements(if i can ever get parts), hx35 turbo off of a cummins 5.9

tomnik
Holset

587
06-13-2011, 01:43 AM #2
Hi,

long time ago I made 6.5mm elements for MW but the interest was only 2-3 sets and it took quite some time until I sold the last set.
The cost was 75 EUR/element.
One option you have is to use a M pump with turbo governor and 7.5mm elements.
I have such a pump in progress but it is still in the diesel shop so no results up to now.
Maybe in the far future I will do something like 7.5 or bigger for MW but only if at least 5 sets are subscribed.


Tom
tomnik
06-13-2011, 01:43 AM #2

Hi,

long time ago I made 6.5mm elements for MW but the interest was only 2-3 sets and it took quite some time until I sold the last set.
The cost was 75 EUR/element.
One option you have is to use a M pump with turbo governor and 7.5mm elements.
I have such a pump in progress but it is still in the diesel shop so no results up to now.
Maybe in the far future I will do something like 7.5 or bigger for MW but only if at least 5 sets are subscribed.


Tom

wlockerb
HX35

27
06-13-2011, 07:42 AM #3
i think i would have trouble finding others that would spend that but its an option at least for us! Anyone else had any luck?

1985 300sd is in the rebuild process now, upgraded pump to 8mm elements(if i can ever get parts), hx35 turbo off of a cummins 5.9

wlockerb
06-13-2011, 07:42 AM #3

i think i would have trouble finding others that would spend that but its an option at least for us! Anyone else had any luck?


1985 300sd is in the rebuild process now, upgraded pump to 8mm elements(if i can ever get parts), hx35 turbo off of a cummins 5.9

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
06-14-2011, 12:39 PM #4
You can order 8mm elements for the Volvo? from european Bosch dealers. Check the chinese sites for the 8mm elements and what trucks they were used on. You can also just search here, there are some older threads about it.

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
06-14-2011, 12:39 PM #4

You can order 8mm elements for the Volvo? from european Bosch dealers. Check the chinese sites for the 8mm elements and what trucks they were used on. You can also just search here, there are some older threads about it.


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

wlockerb
HX35

27
06-15-2011, 08:30 AM #5
i just recieved an email from lisa at chinahanji and they are out of the 8mm elements as well and have no prodution orders pending so back to square one again. On another note, i am confused as to what part numbers will work because they list an mw thick and mw thin element. Anyone know if both will work or any other info? what about contact info for alternative vendors?

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1985 300sd is in the rebuild process now, upgraded pump to 8mm elements(if i can ever get parts), hx35 turbo off of a cummins 5.9

wlockerb
06-15-2011, 08:30 AM #5

i just recieved an email from lisa at chinahanji and they are out of the 8mm elements as well and have no prodution orders pending so back to square one again. On another note, i am confused as to what part numbers will work because they list an mw thick and mw thin element. Anyone know if both will work or any other info? what about contact info for alternative vendors?

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1985 300sd is in the rebuild process now, upgraded pump to 8mm elements(if i can ever get parts), hx35 turbo off of a cummins 5.9

wlockerb
HX35

27
06-22-2011, 01:24 PM #6
Shut down again guys. minimum order is 50 so not going to happen. I took the advice of an old teacher from my days in the automotive deptarment at ivy tech and call a place called oden machine. He said that they have made custom barrels and plungers before and he would have an answer for me. I called and was amazed at what he told me! He said he knows he could do 10 or 11mm plungers but that he thought a better route to go would be to use an A-pump off of a mercedes combine! He would probably have to regrind the cam for a 5 cylinder but thought the mounting was the same! He wants me to send my pump to him to be sure. I will definitely keep you all posted on this. Oh and by the way, he did say that if I went with the MW pump and 10mm plungers he could do it for around $700-800. Not to bad guys.........

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1985 300sd is in the rebuild process now, upgraded pump to 8mm elements(if i can ever get parts), hx35 turbo off of a cummins 5.9

wlockerb
06-22-2011, 01:24 PM #6

Shut down again guys. minimum order is 50 so not going to happen. I took the advice of an old teacher from my days in the automotive deptarment at ivy tech and call a place called oden machine. He said that they have made custom barrels and plungers before and he would have an answer for me. I called and was amazed at what he told me! He said he knows he could do 10 or 11mm plungers but that he thought a better route to go would be to use an A-pump off of a mercedes combine! He would probably have to regrind the cam for a 5 cylinder but thought the mounting was the same! He wants me to send my pump to him to be sure. I will definitely keep you all posted on this. Oh and by the way, he did say that if I went with the MW pump and 10mm plungers he could do it for around $700-800. Not to bad guys.........

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1985 300sd is in the rebuild process now, upgraded pump to 8mm elements(if i can ever get parts), hx35 turbo off of a cummins 5.9

randomdude
GT2256V

106
06-22-2011, 03:12 PM #7
that sounds like a pretty interesting option! definently keep updated please Smile

cars? what cars? WHERE???
randomdude
06-22-2011, 03:12 PM #7

that sounds like a pretty interesting option! definently keep updated please Smile


cars? what cars? WHERE???

Captain America
Boostin' & Roostin'

2,221
06-22-2011, 04:07 PM #8
I have an extra pump!


1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Captain America
06-22-2011, 04:07 PM #8

I have an extra pump!



1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

dieselboy
Rotatin 5500 times a minute

680
06-22-2011, 05:51 PM #9
(06-22-2011, 04:07 PM)Captain America I have an extra pump!
I have 2 extra pumps.

-Jesse

80 300sd hy35, front mount intercooler, w115 intake, rack limiter removed, Alda removed, full load turned up, boost, ebp, trans, pyro, egr delete, 3.5" exhaust, e-fan, 16x8 rims with, 245/50 tires, lowered, bilstien 5100's, 12" front brakes, 2.65:1 diff.
97 f250 psd 4x4, crawler
70 f250 390
83 Volvo 242, lots of mods
66 Volvo amazon

10 mistsubishi fuso service truck.
dieselboy
06-22-2011, 05:51 PM #9

(06-22-2011, 04:07 PM)Captain America I have an extra pump!
I have 2 extra pumps.


-Jesse

80 300sd hy35, front mount intercooler, w115 intake, rack limiter removed, Alda removed, full load turned up, boost, ebp, trans, pyro, egr delete, 3.5" exhaust, e-fan, 16x8 rims with, 245/50 tires, lowered, bilstien 5100's, 12" front brakes, 2.65:1 diff.
97 f250 psd 4x4, crawler
70 f250 390
83 Volvo 242, lots of mods
66 Volvo amazon

10 mistsubishi fuso service truck.

MTUPower
looking for more power on a daily driver

287
06-22-2011, 08:35 PM #10
I think you'll find that 10mm is too large.

2005 CDI heavily modified 1984 300TD - Myna pump/TMIC/enlarged PC's/HX30Super/W126 II front brakes/Vogtland springs/EGT +Boost gauges/H4 Hella's
MTUPower
06-22-2011, 08:35 PM #10

I think you'll find that 10mm is too large.


2005 CDI heavily modified 1984 300TD - Myna pump/TMIC/enlarged PC's/HX30Super/W126 II front brakes/Vogtland springs/EGT +Boost gauges/H4 Hella's

Captain America
Boostin' & Roostin'

2,221
06-23-2011, 10:46 AM #11
(06-22-2011, 05:51 PM)dieselboy
(06-22-2011, 04:07 PM)Captain America I have an extra pump!
I have 2 extra pumps.

Fancy pants Dodgy


1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Captain America
06-23-2011, 10:46 AM #11

(06-22-2011, 05:51 PM)dieselboy
(06-22-2011, 04:07 PM)Captain America I have an extra pump!
I have 2 extra pumps.

Fancy pants Dodgy



1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Biohazard
Smokin like a champ!

376
06-23-2011, 01:52 PM #12
Hahaha! I have two also. Smile

82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.

84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine! 
Biohazard
06-23-2011, 01:52 PM #12

Hahaha! I have two also. Smile


82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.

84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine! 

Captain America
Boostin' & Roostin'

2,221
06-23-2011, 02:38 PM #13
Oh wait! I forgot! I also have two (extra) pumps! lol duh! Blush

The one off the '82
and the one off the '85

Guess I'm apart of the club!
This post was last modified: 06-23-2011, 02:38 PM by Captain America.


1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Captain America
06-23-2011, 02:38 PM #13

Oh wait! I forgot! I also have two (extra) pumps! lol duh! Blush

The one off the '82
and the one off the '85

Guess I'm apart of the club!



1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

wlockerb
HX35

27
06-24-2011, 12:02 PM #14
(06-22-2011, 08:35 PM)MTUPower I think you'll find that 10mm is too large.

I mentioned that but he said it isnt a problem to dial them down. He said that you may just have to retard the pump to compensate.

1985 300sd is in the rebuild process now, upgraded pump to 8mm elements(if i can ever get parts), hx35 turbo off of a cummins 5.9

wlockerb
06-24-2011, 12:02 PM #14

(06-22-2011, 08:35 PM)MTUPower I think you'll find that 10mm is too large.

I mentioned that but he said it isnt a problem to dial them down. He said that you may just have to retard the pump to compensate.


1985 300sd is in the rebuild process now, upgraded pump to 8mm elements(if i can ever get parts), hx35 turbo off of a cummins 5.9

randomdude
GT2256V

106
06-24-2011, 05:24 PM #15
i asked this in the group buy thread but think i should ask it here instead. what size element is good for like 350wtq? with supporting mods of course.

i should have a MW in my '83 right? it has the square alda on top.

cars? what cars? WHERE???
randomdude
06-24-2011, 05:24 PM #15

i asked this in the group buy thread but think i should ask it here instead. what size element is good for like 350wtq? with supporting mods of course.

i should have a MW in my '83 right? it has the square alda on top.


cars? what cars? WHERE???

wlockerb
HX35

27
06-24-2011, 05:31 PM #16
Yes it should be an mw pump. 350tq isn't that hard to get honestly with a descent turbo you could get by with 6.5mm or 7mm plungers. The problem is they don't make them for the mw. All we have found is 10mm and then the problem is finding someone willing to work on it.

1985 300sd is in the rebuild process now, upgraded pump to 8mm elements(if i can ever get parts), hx35 turbo off of a cummins 5.9

wlockerb
06-24-2011, 05:31 PM #16

Yes it should be an mw pump. 350tq isn't that hard to get honestly with a descent turbo you could get by with 6.5mm or 7mm plungers. The problem is they don't make them for the mw. All we have found is 10mm and then the problem is finding someone willing to work on it.


1985 300sd is in the rebuild process now, upgraded pump to 8mm elements(if i can ever get parts), hx35 turbo off of a cummins 5.9

randomdude
GT2256V

106
06-24-2011, 05:51 PM #17
i thought tomnik had 7's? or is that for an M pump?

sorry im totally new to IP's. this is my first diesel.

cars? what cars? WHERE???
randomdude
06-24-2011, 05:51 PM #17

i thought tomnik had 7's? or is that for an M pump?

sorry im totally new to IP's. this is my first diesel.


cars? what cars? WHERE???

tomnik
Holset

587
06-25-2011, 01:06 AM #18
(06-24-2011, 05:51 PM)randomdude i thought tomnik had 7's? or is that for an M pump?

In the past I had 6 and later 6.5mm for the MW.

For the M: there are the 7mm China/Italy and the Floyd 7.5mm

Tom
tomnik
06-25-2011, 01:06 AM #18

(06-24-2011, 05:51 PM)randomdude i thought tomnik had 7's? or is that for an M pump?

In the past I had 6 and later 6.5mm for the MW.

For the M: there are the 7mm China/Italy and the Floyd 7.5mm

Tom

wlockerb
HX35

27
06-25-2011, 09:08 AM #19
Were they custom made?

1985 300sd is in the rebuild process now, upgraded pump to 8mm elements(if i can ever get parts), hx35 turbo off of a cummins 5.9

wlockerb
06-25-2011, 09:08 AM #19

Were they custom made?


1985 300sd is in the rebuild process now, upgraded pump to 8mm elements(if i can ever get parts), hx35 turbo off of a cummins 5.9

tomnik
Holset

587
06-25-2011, 01:46 PM #20
(06-25-2011, 09:08 AM)wlockerb Were they custom made?

except the 7mm (which were used in an old Ford Transit, mid 70's), yes.
tomnik
06-25-2011, 01:46 PM #20

(06-25-2011, 09:08 AM)wlockerb Were they custom made?

except the 7mm (which were used in an old Ford Transit, mid 70's), yes.

 
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