head bolts
head bolts
http://www.amazon.com/Beta-920XZN-Socket...B003E36XL0
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
Does this look like the socket for an om617 head bolts?
http://www.amazon.com/Beta-920XZN-Socket...B003E36XL0
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
83' 300SD tuning begins soon.
2001 Dodge Ram 2500 4x4 5.9l Cummins
Superchips programmer, S&B intake, 5" straight pipe, 8" Sky jacket lift and 37" Toyota muds.
makin' smoke
04-23-2011, 10:48 PM #3No, your going to be looking for an M12 spline. aaa is right about the length. you need a longer shoulder on the socket to reach past some parts. heres a pic on one that works for me. its made by OEM which are availibe at most auto parts stores.
83' 300SD tuning begins soon.
2001 Dodge Ram 2500 4x4 5.9l Cummins
Superchips programmer, S&B intake, 5" straight pipe, 8" Sky jacket lift and 37" Toyota muds.
http://www.samstagsales.com/mercedes.htm
Well I have ordered this $8 set. I hope one of them will fit/reach and hold up for me.
http://www.amazon.com/Tools-Spline-Tripl...ef=lh_ni_t
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
Are you sure it is a 12? I had a 10mm allen and it looked like 10 was the right size. 10 is also specified on this page.
http://www.samstagsales.com/mercedes.htm
Well I have ordered this $8 set. I hope one of them will fit/reach and hold up for me.
http://www.amazon.com/Tools-Spline-Tripl...ef=lh_ni_t
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
I checked out the other link from amazon but didnt see a discription of what sizes. if it has it, thats a good deal for 8 bucks.
83' 300SD tuning begins soon.
2001 Dodge Ram 2500 4x4 5.9l Cummins
Superchips programmer, S&B intake, 5" straight pipe, 8" Sky jacket lift and 37" Toyota muds.
makin' smoke
04-23-2011, 11:30 PM #5on samstagsales, look at part# sw305x-m12 (617 589 00 10 00) its states M12 with 140mm shank for 616,617.
I checked out the other link from amazon but didnt see a discription of what sizes. if it has it, thats a good deal for 8 bucks.
83' 300SD tuning begins soon.
2001 Dodge Ram 2500 4x4 5.9l Cummins
Superchips programmer, S&B intake, 5" straight pipe, 8" Sky jacket lift and 37" Toyota muds.
M12
M10 is for later engines.
oh.. nice kit on Amazon. Hope they're solid.
totaldisaster
04-24-2011, 01:06 AM #6I agree.
M12
M10 is for later engines.
oh.. nice kit on Amazon. Hope they're solid.
Head Bolt Issue:
Bought these about one month ago.
You can get a 4 piece set which will work for the head for $4.99 from O'Reilly's. All you need to do is grind off the sides about 1mm to fit. If you do not grind off the sides, you can jamb them into the sides where the supports hold the cam, but you run the risk of slight damage to the aluminum supports. I didnt care at the junk yard, but I will when it gets time to re-install.
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Project 2018: Really get the car finished -- Turbo OM617 greater than 175 MPH goal.
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Head Bolt Issue:
Bought these about one month ago.
You can get a 4 piece set which will work for the head for $4.99 from O'Reilly's. All you need to do is grind off the sides about 1mm to fit. If you do not grind off the sides, you can jamb them into the sides where the supports hold the cam, but you run the risk of slight damage to the aluminum supports. I didnt care at the junk yard, but I will when it gets time to re-install.
Ninth Year Anniversary with STD on 1-9-2020
visit: www.dieselfuelinjector.guru
Project 2018: Really get the car finished -- Turbo OM617 greater than 175 MPH goal.
RED W123 - left Germany as 240D in 1982. Full AMG body kit less rear apron, 2:65LSD, five speed Getrag 717.400, manual steering, read leather interior, manual brake conversion, electric water pump (EWP), and a bunch of other goodies ...
They need to come out to pull the head? I have a 10mm and a 14mm and it seems there are 4x -12mm and 1x 10mm bolts.
I tried to loosen the 10mm and it wanted to strip, is it possible there is an 11mm size?
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
Oh, now there are some allen bolts in the way too.
They need to come out to pull the head? I have a 10mm and a 14mm and it seems there are 4x -12mm and 1x 10mm bolts.
I tried to loosen the 10mm and it wanted to strip, is it possible there is an 11mm size?
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
The allen bolts when I did my cylinder head were 5mm and 6mm. Are you talking about the triple-square size? If its the triple-square ( the special sockets above) they only have even number spacing as far as I know... 10, 12, 14, etc.
82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.
84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine!
If you are talking about the two allen bolts down in the chain hole, and the one or two over on the side of the chain hole, yup. Those have to come off too.
The allen bolts when I did my cylinder head were 5mm and 6mm. Are you talking about the triple-square size? If its the triple-square ( the special sockets above) they only have even number spacing as far as I know... 10, 12, 14, etc.
82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.
84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine!
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
I'll get pictures. But they are like right in the middle of the cylinders. 4 are one size and 1 is smaller near the front. Like 10-12mm not triple hex thay are just allens. I have ordered a set of allen sockets.
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
Sucks because I broke another craftsman socket wrench trying to loosen them. Will need to get a driver size adapter for my breakerbar. Worst of all that little one seems to be bigger than 10mm and I can't think of a way to get a grip on it.
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Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
These are the hex bolts I'm talking about. I got those 2 little guys by the camgear. And I tried to bump the head with a sledge to loosen it but it seems these hex bolts are still holding it.
Sucks because I broke another craftsman socket wrench trying to loosen them. Will need to get a driver size adapter for my breakerbar. Worst of all that little one seems to be bigger than 10mm and I can't think of a way to get a grip on it.
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
05-10-2011, 05:40 PM #12Those big ones need to come out! there will be a small one hidden down inside of the timing chain pocket
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
we'll see how it goes I just got the 1/2 -- 3/8 adapter. There where 2 in the 'timing chain pocket' like 6 or 8mm. I'm afraid that the 12mm socket will break and that the 10mm bolt will strip. Then what will I do?
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
Maybe I am really doing this wrong.
Anybody? Am I going to need a jack or something to get it loose or should I just be able to pick it off? How much does it weigh? like +/- 100lb ?
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
Really? They coolant plugs on the side but, on the top too? Why won't my head come loose? I hit it on both sides pretty well with a 12lb sledge and don't see it budging.
Maybe I am really doing this wrong.
Anybody? Am I going to need a jack or something to get it loose or should I just be able to pick it off? How much does it weigh? like +/- 100lb ?
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
However, on a re-install, I plan on just pulling the engine and trans and spending about 2 weeks on it. A number of members suggested taking my time, et cet., and I think they are right. Hope this helps.
Ninth Year Anniversary with STD on 1-9-2020
visit: www.dieselfuelinjector.guru
Project 2018: Really get the car finished -- Turbo OM617 greater than 175 MPH goal.
RED W123 - left Germany as 240D in 1982. Full AMG body kit less rear apron, 2:65LSD, five speed Getrag 717.400, manual steering, read leather interior, manual brake conversion, electric water pump (EWP), and a bunch of other goodies ...
I got a replacement head from the junkyard, and I had to stand and straddle the engine bay. It weights AAALLLOTTTT. I would say it weighes at least 80+ pounds. And yes, there was 2 (I think) bolts down inside where the chain is, and one off to the side near the power steering pump. If you do not care about the cosmetics of the car, you can just straddle the engine and lift it off, being careful not to drag it too much as the pre-combustion "domes" protrude from the bottom of the head about 1/2" -- I would be concernd about breaking one of those.
However, on a re-install, I plan on just pulling the engine and trans and spending about 2 weeks on it. A number of members suggested taking my time, et cet., and I think they are right. Hope this helps.
Ninth Year Anniversary with STD on 1-9-2020
visit: www.dieselfuelinjector.guru
Project 2018: Really get the car finished -- Turbo OM617 greater than 175 MPH goal.
RED W123 - left Germany as 240D in 1982. Full AMG body kit less rear apron, 2:65LSD, five speed Getrag 717.400, manual steering, read leather interior, manual brake conversion, electric water pump (EWP), and a bunch of other goodies ...
Anyhow, the head will not budge and I had thought it must be those hex bolts I am talking about. Maybe the shortblock and head are just really stuck after 29years of marriage.
Should I work at loosening those hex bolts? Or try and break the 2 pieces apart?
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
I was in the engine bay straddling the motor, I guess that's like rounding thirdbase and she's dead which makes it even grosser.
Anyhow, the head will not budge and I had thought it must be those hex bolts I am talking about. Maybe the shortblock and head are just really stuck after 29years of marriage.
Should I work at loosening those hex bolts? Or try and break the 2 pieces apart?
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
Dont forget about the 3 little allens like Greazzer had said.Oh, and if necrosumthing is your deal, you can have it.
hivers: LOL
82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.
84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine!
When I did my head, the same thing happened. It took several minutes of wacking with a rubber coated dead blow hammer to get that sucker loose. 29 years of torqued together is a LOT of time. I wouldn't even mess with those coolant plug bolts. Just work on getting the two parts divorced! Dont forget about the 3 little allens like Greazzer had said.
Oh, and if necrosumthing is your deal, you can have it. hivers: LOL
82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.
84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine!
you also need to break the chain or at least remove the pins from the guide rail.
ps.. cherry picker'd pull dat varmint rhat off.
totaldisaster
05-10-2011, 11:31 PM #19There is usually a strap at the back right near the lifting point that needs to come off.
you also need to break the chain or at least remove the pins from the guide rail.
ps.. cherry picker'd pull dat varmint rhat off.
-Jesse
80 300sd hy35, front mount intercooler, w115 intake, rack limiter removed, Alda removed, full load turned up, boost, ebp, trans, pyro, egr delete, 3.5" exhaust, e-fan, 16x8 rims with, 245/50 tires, lowered, bilstien 5100's, 12" front brakes, 2.65:1 diff.
97 f250 psd 4x4, crawler
70 f250 390
83 Volvo 242, lots of mods
66 Volvo amazon
10 mistsubishi fuso service truck.
make sure you got all of the smaller allen head bolts out. There are 3 iirc.
-Jesse
80 300sd hy35, front mount intercooler, w115 intake, rack limiter removed, Alda removed, full load turned up, boost, ebp, trans, pyro, egr delete, 3.5" exhaust, e-fan, 16x8 rims with, 245/50 tires, lowered, bilstien 5100's, 12" front brakes, 2.65:1 diff.
97 f250 psd 4x4, crawler
70 f250 390
83 Volvo 242, lots of mods
66 Volvo amazon
10 mistsubishi fuso service truck.
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
Captain America
05-11-2011, 01:00 AM #22What would we do without him!?!
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
(05-11-2011, 01:00 AM)Captain America What would we do without him!?!
I know, DeliveryValve you have extremely helpful with your information, I always read your threads for maintenance stuff, vacuum diagrams ect. Sorry for OT.
1984 300D 4-speed ~200,000 miles
7.5mm M-pump, GT3582 turbo, F-Tune Performance intake/exhaust manifolds, A/A intercooler, 315 nozzles, Enlarged prechambers, Bosch 044 feed pump, Custom lightweight flywheel with 240mm clutch, Lowered, 17" AMG rims - 300 hp OM617 project
1985 300D 280,000 miles RIP
2001 F350 7.3 DP tuner, 4"exhaust, S&B intake
led-panzer
05-11-2011, 10:27 AM #23(05-11-2011, 01:00 AM)Captain America What would we do without him!?!
I know, DeliveryValve you have extremely helpful with your information, I always read your threads for maintenance stuff, vacuum diagrams ect. Sorry for OT.
1984 300D 4-speed ~200,000 miles
7.5mm M-pump, GT3582 turbo, F-Tune Performance intake/exhaust manifolds, A/A intercooler, 315 nozzles, Enlarged prechambers, Bosch 044 feed pump, Custom lightweight flywheel with 240mm clutch, Lowered, 17" AMG rims - 300 hp OM617 project
1985 300D 280,000 miles RIP
2001 F350 7.3 DP tuner, 4"exhaust, S&B intake
(05-11-2011, 10:27 AM)led-panzer(05-11-2011, 01:00 AM)Captain America What would we do without him!?!
I know, DeliveryValve you have extremely helpful with your information, I always read your threads for maintenance stuff, vacuum diagrams ect. Sorry for OT.
Thanks for the encouragement. Nice to know people are using that info!
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Gota love Mercedes Diesels!
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DeliveryValve
05-12-2011, 11:20 PM #24(05-11-2011, 10:27 AM)led-panzer(05-11-2011, 01:00 AM)Captain America What would we do without him!?!
I know, DeliveryValve you have extremely helpful with your information, I always read your threads for maintenance stuff, vacuum diagrams ect. Sorry for OT.
Thanks for the encouragement. Nice to know people are using that info!
.
Gota love Mercedes Diesels!
.
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
Captain America
05-13-2011, 01:53 AM #25Yeah man. Your like the Mercedes encyclopedia !
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
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