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Stall after couple seconds of start up

Stall after couple seconds of start up

 
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W116Lorinser
OM617.95

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02-08-2011, 11:28 AM #1
very weird only has been happening in the past 2 months on my w116 300sd om617 everything is new in the car the battery, glowplugs, oil, all filters, recent valve adjustment etc.


The car starts up right away but i have to hold the gas pedal down for a couple seconds before the engine fully turns over and runs perfectly.


If i dont hold the pedal down it runs for a second or two then stalls and shuts off. Do i need to adjust my idle higher or something? or is this normal for a older diesel in this cold weather.
W116Lorinser
02-08-2011, 11:28 AM #1

very weird only has been happening in the past 2 months on my w116 300sd om617 everything is new in the car the battery, glowplugs, oil, all filters, recent valve adjustment etc.


The car starts up right away but i have to hold the gas pedal down for a couple seconds before the engine fully turns over and runs perfectly.


If i dont hold the pedal down it runs for a second or two then stalls and shuts off. Do i need to adjust my idle higher or something? or is this normal for a older diesel in this cold weather.

DeliveryValve
Superturbo

1,338
02-08-2011, 06:56 PM #2
How much of the pedal are you pressing down?


Usually when you have a start and stop, it means you have an air leak somewhere.



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DeliveryValve
02-08-2011, 06:56 PM #2

How much of the pedal are you pressing down?


Usually when you have a start and stop, it means you have an air leak somewhere.



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Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



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dieselboy
Rotatin 5500 times a minute

680
02-08-2011, 07:17 PM #3
Is your primer pump leaking?


Edit: ^ whoa! New sig pic ftmfw!!
This post was last modified: 02-08-2011, 07:18 PM by dieselboy.

-Jesse

80 300sd hy35, front mount intercooler, w115 intake, rack limiter removed, Alda removed, full load turned up, boost, ebp, trans, pyro, egr delete, 3.5" exhaust, e-fan, 16x8 rims with, 245/50 tires, lowered, bilstien 5100's, 12" front brakes, 2.65:1 diff.
97 f250 psd 4x4, crawler
70 f250 390
83 Volvo 242, lots of mods
66 Volvo amazon

10 mistsubishi fuso service truck.
dieselboy
02-08-2011, 07:17 PM #3

Is your primer pump leaking?


Edit: ^ whoa! New sig pic ftmfw!!


-Jesse

80 300sd hy35, front mount intercooler, w115 intake, rack limiter removed, Alda removed, full load turned up, boost, ebp, trans, pyro, egr delete, 3.5" exhaust, e-fan, 16x8 rims with, 245/50 tires, lowered, bilstien 5100's, 12" front brakes, 2.65:1 diff.
97 f250 psd 4x4, crawler
70 f250 390
83 Volvo 242, lots of mods
66 Volvo amazon

10 mistsubishi fuso service truck.

W116Lorinser
OM617.95

147
02-09-2011, 11:55 AM #4
No primer pump leaks. Everything in engine in pretty much brand new.

I have to depress pedal for about 10 seconds or less then it runs perfect as usual.

I use delvac 15-40 non syntetic. Since its been real cold this winter in the northeast can this be a problem. I was thinking of changing to mobil 1 5-40 turbo diesel formula today since im due for a oil change.


The cars a 1980 with close to 200k. Can this be normal with a high mileage engine?
W116Lorinser
02-09-2011, 11:55 AM #4

No primer pump leaks. Everything in engine in pretty much brand new.

I have to depress pedal for about 10 seconds or less then it runs perfect as usual.

I use delvac 15-40 non syntetic. Since its been real cold this winter in the northeast can this be a problem. I was thinking of changing to mobil 1 5-40 turbo diesel formula today since im due for a oil change.


The cars a 1980 with close to 200k. Can this be normal with a high mileage engine?

dieselboy
Rotatin 5500 times a minute

680
02-09-2011, 04:19 PM #5
My car does the same thing when it's cold but I think my primer has a small leak allowing air into the system.

-Jesse

80 300sd hy35, front mount intercooler, w115 intake, rack limiter removed, Alda removed, full load turned up, boost, ebp, trans, pyro, egr delete, 3.5" exhaust, e-fan, 16x8 rims with, 245/50 tires, lowered, bilstien 5100's, 12" front brakes, 2.65:1 diff.
97 f250 psd 4x4, crawler
70 f250 390
83 Volvo 242, lots of mods
66 Volvo amazon

10 mistsubishi fuso service truck.
dieselboy
02-09-2011, 04:19 PM #5

My car does the same thing when it's cold but I think my primer has a small leak allowing air into the system.


-Jesse

80 300sd hy35, front mount intercooler, w115 intake, rack limiter removed, Alda removed, full load turned up, boost, ebp, trans, pyro, egr delete, 3.5" exhaust, e-fan, 16x8 rims with, 245/50 tires, lowered, bilstien 5100's, 12" front brakes, 2.65:1 diff.
97 f250 psd 4x4, crawler
70 f250 390
83 Volvo 242, lots of mods
66 Volvo amazon

10 mistsubishi fuso service truck.

DrewGerhan
If it don't blow black, take it back!

101
03-09-2011, 03:10 PM #6
My car does the same thing but only after a long drive (hour or more). If I go to restart quickly after shutting off I have to floor it for the first seconds to keep it running or it will sputter and die. If I open the gas cap there is a huge whoosh of air (vacuum). After this it will start normally until the next long drive.

I assume its my tank vent clogged up somewhere. Just haven't really dug into it much yet to verify.

1981 300SD 230k miles "Gently Modified" Daily Driver

1999 F-250 7.3L Power Stroke 150k miles "The Usual Mods" Tow Rig

1981 300SD 190k miles "Heavily Modified" Big Grin  GONE
DrewGerhan
03-09-2011, 03:10 PM #6

My car does the same thing but only after a long drive (hour or more). If I go to restart quickly after shutting off I have to floor it for the first seconds to keep it running or it will sputter and die. If I open the gas cap there is a huge whoosh of air (vacuum). After this it will start normally until the next long drive.

I assume its my tank vent clogged up somewhere. Just haven't really dug into it much yet to verify.


1981 300SD 230k miles "Gently Modified" Daily Driver

1999 F-250 7.3L Power Stroke 150k miles "The Usual Mods" Tow Rig

1981 300SD 190k miles "Heavily Modified" Big Grin  GONE

larsalan
Superturbo

1,272
03-09-2011, 03:40 PM #7
(03-09-2011, 03:10 PM)DrewGerhan My car does the same thing but only after a long drive (hour or more). If I go to restart quickly after shutting off I have to floor it for the first seconds to keep it running or it will sputter and die. If I open the gas cap there is a huge whoosh of air (vacuum). After this it will start normally until the next long drive.

I assume its my tank vent clogged up somewhere. Just haven't really dug into it much yet to verify.

The vent/valve is a bell looking thing. Could be clogged it is under the car.
[Image: snap_10.jpg]

Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
larsalan
03-09-2011, 03:40 PM #7

(03-09-2011, 03:10 PM)DrewGerhan My car does the same thing but only after a long drive (hour or more). If I go to restart quickly after shutting off I have to floor it for the first seconds to keep it running or it will sputter and die. If I open the gas cap there is a huge whoosh of air (vacuum). After this it will start normally until the next long drive.

I assume its my tank vent clogged up somewhere. Just haven't really dug into it much yet to verify.

The vent/valve is a bell looking thing. Could be clogged it is under the car.
[Image: snap_10.jpg]


Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'

DrewGerhan
If it don't blow black, take it back!

101
03-09-2011, 04:46 PM #8
I did look at that and take a coat hanger to it. Didn't seem to be stuck and no debris came out. Thats all I've done though.

1981 300SD 230k miles "Gently Modified" Daily Driver

1999 F-250 7.3L Power Stroke 150k miles "The Usual Mods" Tow Rig

1981 300SD 190k miles "Heavily Modified" Big Grin  GONE
DrewGerhan
03-09-2011, 04:46 PM #8

I did look at that and take a coat hanger to it. Didn't seem to be stuck and no debris came out. Thats all I've done though.


1981 300SD 230k miles "Gently Modified" Daily Driver

1999 F-250 7.3L Power Stroke 150k miles "The Usual Mods" Tow Rig

1981 300SD 190k miles "Heavily Modified" Big Grin  GONE

W116Lorinser
OM617.95

147
03-10-2011, 01:24 AM #9
(03-09-2011, 04:46 PM)DrewGerhan I did look at that and take a coat hanger to it. Didn't seem to be stuck and no debris came out. Thats all I've done though.


Wow i never paid attentioN to that part. Where is it located exactly. I have a 300sd w116 chasis.

ThanksSmile
W116Lorinser
03-10-2011, 01:24 AM #9

(03-09-2011, 04:46 PM)DrewGerhan I did look at that and take a coat hanger to it. Didn't seem to be stuck and no debris came out. Thats all I've done though.


Wow i never paid attentioN to that part. Where is it located exactly. I have a 300sd w116 chasis.

ThanksSmile

larsalan
Superturbo

1,272
03-10-2011, 08:12 AM #10
on my w123 there are 3 lines coming out of the fuel tank. All were rusted and leaking.
1 supply
1 return
1 for that vent
the valve opens both directions under minimal pressures.

the valve was like under the rear seat floor pan.
This post was last modified: 03-10-2011, 08:17 AM by larsalan.

Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
larsalan
03-10-2011, 08:12 AM #10

on my w123 there are 3 lines coming out of the fuel tank. All were rusted and leaking.
1 supply
1 return
1 for that vent
the valve opens both directions under minimal pressures.

the valve was like under the rear seat floor pan.


Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'

 
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