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Myna install in my 84 wagon

Myna install in my 84 wagon

 
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MTUPower
looking for more power on a daily driver

287
01-07-2011, 06:53 PM #1
So I've changed the timing chain, adjusted the valves and installed the Myna pump. Linkage was an issue, and still is today, as well as the lift pump. The lift pump was a bit stiff and I needed to pull it apart, clean it and re-assemble in order for it to function as designed. Done without problems. The linkage from the right foot to the pump is made, but not perfected yet. I'm going to have to get another rod and use a die to cut the proper threads in order for the pump to reach the full amount of travel. After this I need to make any pump adjustments. Right now the VCV is leaking, so shifts are not optimal as they were with my modified MW pump. After a first day of install and a small amount of tweaking the results are good but there certainly is room for improvement. The amount of smoke at idle is a bit more than I'd like, but not enough to get a ticket. There is a bit more smoke at the low end when boost is building than I'd like also, but again not enough to get a ticket. I can control that to an extent with my foot. Above 2500 rpm the engine really wakes up and there seems to be no drop off in the rate of rising power all the way to the shift point. My modified MW gave nice low end and much improved mid and high end over stock settings, but the Myna is a different animal in the upper boost/rpm range. However with the timing at 25 degrees the engine now sounds like a 6BTa. The MW with stock 24 timing and AAZ injectors (265's set at 150 bar) were very very quiet. I like quiet, but like power more. I have a small injector leak, more tweaking and a new/better linkage rod to make and then report back. Pics and perhaps a short video soon.
This post was last modified: 01-07-2011, 06:57 PM by MTUPower.

2005 CDI heavily modified 1984 300TD - Myna pump/TMIC/enlarged PC's/HX30Super/W126 II front brakes/Vogtland springs/EGT +Boost gauges/H4 Hella's
MTUPower
01-07-2011, 06:53 PM #1

So I've changed the timing chain, adjusted the valves and installed the Myna pump. Linkage was an issue, and still is today, as well as the lift pump. The lift pump was a bit stiff and I needed to pull it apart, clean it and re-assemble in order for it to function as designed. Done without problems. The linkage from the right foot to the pump is made, but not perfected yet. I'm going to have to get another rod and use a die to cut the proper threads in order for the pump to reach the full amount of travel. After this I need to make any pump adjustments. Right now the VCV is leaking, so shifts are not optimal as they were with my modified MW pump. After a first day of install and a small amount of tweaking the results are good but there certainly is room for improvement. The amount of smoke at idle is a bit more than I'd like, but not enough to get a ticket. There is a bit more smoke at the low end when boost is building than I'd like also, but again not enough to get a ticket. I can control that to an extent with my foot. Above 2500 rpm the engine really wakes up and there seems to be no drop off in the rate of rising power all the way to the shift point. My modified MW gave nice low end and much improved mid and high end over stock settings, but the Myna is a different animal in the upper boost/rpm range. However with the timing at 25 degrees the engine now sounds like a 6BTa. The MW with stock 24 timing and AAZ injectors (265's set at 150 bar) were very very quiet. I like quiet, but like power more. I have a small injector leak, more tweaking and a new/better linkage rod to make and then report back. Pics and perhaps a short video soon.


2005 CDI heavily modified 1984 300TD - Myna pump/TMIC/enlarged PC's/HX30Super/W126 II front brakes/Vogtland springs/EGT +Boost gauges/H4 Hella's

jonbobshinigin
Holset

292
01-07-2011, 11:48 PM #2
Yes, pics please!! Is this in FL or NY?

1987 300TDT - 260,000 Miles
>>275HP OM603 Project Profile here<<

jonbobshinigin
01-07-2011, 11:48 PM #2

Yes, pics please!! Is this in FL or NY?


1987 300TDT - 260,000 Miles
>>275HP OM603 Project Profile here<<

MTUPower
looking for more power on a daily driver

287
01-08-2011, 07:54 AM #3
(01-07-2011, 11:48 PM)jonbobshinigin Yes, pics please!! Is this in FL or NY?
Florida, Palm Beach County. I'm here all winter (home with my wife and three boys) and summer in NY- it's my job. BTW the other day I did an oil change in the boat I captain and carted in and out 35 gallons of oil- 17 per engine. 16V-92's rated at 1450 HP.


2005 CDI heavily modified 1984 300TD - Myna pump/TMIC/enlarged PC's/HX30Super/W126 II front brakes/Vogtland springs/EGT +Boost gauges/H4 Hella's
MTUPower
01-08-2011, 07:54 AM #3

(01-07-2011, 11:48 PM)jonbobshinigin Yes, pics please!! Is this in FL or NY?
Florida, Palm Beach County. I'm here all winter (home with my wife and three boys) and summer in NY- it's my job. BTW the other day I did an oil change in the boat I captain and carted in and out 35 gallons of oil- 17 per engine. 16V-92's rated at 1450 HP.


2005 CDI heavily modified 1984 300TD - Myna pump/TMIC/enlarged PC's/HX30Super/W126 II front brakes/Vogtland springs/EGT +Boost gauges/H4 Hella's

MTUPower
looking for more power on a daily driver

287
01-09-2011, 09:02 PM #4
engine at idle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQZgr0RQZco

0-60 at speedo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3BxPei7yXU

hard accel smoke out the back
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B57QNA-XYlo

soft accel little smoke out the back
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llmyngzVVZk

My old MW altered pump gave me a 0-60 in just under 12 seconds, the Myna pump with no other changes (besides a new timing chain + routine valve adj.) gives about 9.5 second. Our two runs were both in the 9's- one over 9.5 and one close to 9. It's clear I still have a few tweaks to make. I switched the tranny VCV from another M pump I had as the one on the pump had a audible leak, and the linkage may still need some adjustments. One injector still has a slight leak also.
This post was last modified: 01-09-2011, 09:34 PM by MTUPower.

2005 CDI heavily modified 1984 300TD - Myna pump/TMIC/enlarged PC's/HX30Super/W126 II front brakes/Vogtland springs/EGT +Boost gauges/H4 Hella's
MTUPower
01-09-2011, 09:02 PM #4

engine at idle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQZgr0RQZco

0-60 at speedo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3BxPei7yXU

hard accel smoke out the back
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B57QNA-XYlo

soft accel little smoke out the back
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llmyngzVVZk


My old MW altered pump gave me a 0-60 in just under 12 seconds, the Myna pump with no other changes (besides a new timing chain + routine valve adj.) gives about 9.5 second. Our two runs were both in the 9's- one over 9.5 and one close to 9. It's clear I still have a few tweaks to make. I switched the tranny VCV from another M pump I had as the one on the pump had a audible leak, and the linkage may still need some adjustments. One injector still has a slight leak also.


2005 CDI heavily modified 1984 300TD - Myna pump/TMIC/enlarged PC's/HX30Super/W126 II front brakes/Vogtland springs/EGT +Boost gauges/H4 Hella's

DrewGerhan
If it don't blow black, take it back!

101
01-09-2011, 10:39 PM #5
Thats awesome!! What is the actual investment into a Myna pump if you don't mind me asking?

1981 300SD 230k miles "Gently Modified" Daily Driver

1999 F-250 7.3L Power Stroke 150k miles "The Usual Mods" Tow Rig

1981 300SD 190k miles "Heavily Modified" Big Grin  GONE
DrewGerhan
01-09-2011, 10:39 PM #5

Thats awesome!! What is the actual investment into a Myna pump if you don't mind me asking?


1981 300SD 230k miles "Gently Modified" Daily Driver

1999 F-250 7.3L Power Stroke 150k miles "The Usual Mods" Tow Rig

1981 300SD 190k miles "Heavily Modified" Big Grin  GONE

MTUPower
looking for more power on a daily driver

287
01-09-2011, 11:26 PM #6
(01-09-2011, 10:39 PM)DrewGerhan Thats awesome!! What is the actual investment into a Myna pump if you don't mind me asking?
A pump bought from Myna itself comes out to close $2K+ depending on shipping and other factors. I bought mine second hand unused for quite a bit less. Prices for mega pumps are coming down it appears.


2005 CDI heavily modified 1984 300TD - Myna pump/TMIC/enlarged PC's/HX30Super/W126 II front brakes/Vogtland springs/EGT +Boost gauges/H4 Hella's
MTUPower
01-09-2011, 11:26 PM #6

(01-09-2011, 10:39 PM)DrewGerhan Thats awesome!! What is the actual investment into a Myna pump if you don't mind me asking?
A pump bought from Myna itself comes out to close $2K+ depending on shipping and other factors. I bought mine second hand unused for quite a bit less. Prices for mega pumps are coming down it appears.


2005 CDI heavily modified 1984 300TD - Myna pump/TMIC/enlarged PC's/HX30Super/W126 II front brakes/Vogtland springs/EGT +Boost gauges/H4 Hella's

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
01-11-2011, 10:30 AM #7
You had 2 adults and 1 kid in the car? That would make for a 9 sec sedan with one driver....

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
01-11-2011, 10:30 AM #7

You had 2 adults and 1 kid in the car? That would make for a 9 sec sedan with one driver....


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

jonbobshinigin
Holset

292
01-11-2011, 10:16 PM #8
I still imagine that there is a LOT more power available from this setup...the pump is adjustable correct? Any idea where it is set right now?

1987 300TDT - 260,000 Miles
>>275HP OM603 Project Profile here<<

jonbobshinigin
01-11-2011, 10:16 PM #8

I still imagine that there is a LOT more power available from this setup...the pump is adjustable correct? Any idea where it is set right now?


1987 300TDT - 260,000 Miles
>>275HP OM603 Project Profile here<<

George3soccer
Holset

373
01-12-2011, 09:16 AM #9
Put on a larger turbo and see what it has to offer. What are the specs on this pump from myna. Is it their 7mm upgrade?

Mb 1984 w201 om603 swap.
Mb 1986 w201 190E 2.3-16v
Mb 2004 w203 C230k
George3soccer
01-12-2011, 09:16 AM #9

Put on a larger turbo and see what it has to offer. What are the specs on this pump from myna. Is it their 7mm upgrade?


Mb 1984 w201 om603 swap.
Mb 1986 w201 190E 2.3-16v
Mb 2004 w203 C230k

MTUPower
looking for more power on a daily driver

287
01-14-2011, 07:31 PM #10
(01-11-2011, 10:30 AM)winmutt You had 2 adults and 1 kid in the car? That would make for a 9 sec sedan with one driver....
Two adults and two kids in the car. I need to mount my (jeep liberty) VNT to give me more low end power and less smoke at all RPM's. The VCV on the IP is not making me happy either- the tranny is not shifting like it was before-perfectly. I have to go get a vacuum gauge and make more adjustments to give me no "flare" and no "clunks". I do have a four speed in my garage from a 300D...

I only have so much time- and I've been spending it on making the wife's car nicer. If she ain't happy- nobody's happy...Undecided
Yep- 7mm IIRC.
(01-11-2011, 10:16 PM)jonbobshinigin I still imagine that there is a LOT more power available from this setup...the pump is adjustable correct? Any idea where it is set right now?
I'm sure there is but with the amount of air I can stuff in there now I'm limited. Any more fuel will just be black smoke out the tailpipe, which I don't want. It is the stock turbo after all with a blackstone intercooler and no WI with stock exhaust minus the rear muffler.
This post was last modified: 01-14-2011, 07:45 PM by MTUPower.

2005 CDI heavily modified 1984 300TD - Myna pump/TMIC/enlarged PC's/HX30Super/W126 II front brakes/Vogtland springs/EGT +Boost gauges/H4 Hella's
MTUPower
01-14-2011, 07:31 PM #10

(01-11-2011, 10:30 AM)winmutt You had 2 adults and 1 kid in the car? That would make for a 9 sec sedan with one driver....
Two adults and two kids in the car. I need to mount my (jeep liberty) VNT to give me more low end power and less smoke at all RPM's. The VCV on the IP is not making me happy either- the tranny is not shifting like it was before-perfectly. I have to go get a vacuum gauge and make more adjustments to give me no "flare" and no "clunks". I do have a four speed in my garage from a 300D...

I only have so much time- and I've been spending it on making the wife's car nicer. If she ain't happy- nobody's happy...Undecided
Yep- 7mm IIRC.
(01-11-2011, 10:16 PM)jonbobshinigin I still imagine that there is a LOT more power available from this setup...the pump is adjustable correct? Any idea where it is set right now?
I'm sure there is but with the amount of air I can stuff in there now I'm limited. Any more fuel will just be black smoke out the tailpipe, which I don't want. It is the stock turbo after all with a blackstone intercooler and no WI with stock exhaust minus the rear muffler.


2005 CDI heavily modified 1984 300TD - Myna pump/TMIC/enlarged PC's/HX30Super/W126 II front brakes/Vogtland springs/EGT +Boost gauges/H4 Hella's

George3soccer
Holset

373
01-14-2011, 07:57 PM #11
Let's see pictures of this wagon. Keep us updated, sounds like allot of fun.

Mb 1984 w201 om603 swap.
Mb 1986 w201 190E 2.3-16v
Mb 2004 w203 C230k
George3soccer
01-14-2011, 07:57 PM #11

Let's see pictures of this wagon. Keep us updated, sounds like allot of fun.


Mb 1984 w201 om603 swap.
Mb 1986 w201 190E 2.3-16v
Mb 2004 w203 C230k

MTUPower
looking for more power on a daily driver

287
01-14-2011, 10:15 PM #12
(01-14-2011, 07:57 PM)George3soccer Let's see pictures of this wagon. Keep us updated, sounds like allot of fun.
Here's the profile

2005 CDI heavily modified 1984 300TD - Myna pump/TMIC/enlarged PC's/HX30Super/W126 II front brakes/Vogtland springs/EGT +Boost gauges/H4 Hella's
MTUPower
01-14-2011, 10:15 PM #12

(01-14-2011, 07:57 PM)George3soccer Let's see pictures of this wagon. Keep us updated, sounds like allot of fun.
Here's the profile


2005 CDI heavily modified 1984 300TD - Myna pump/TMIC/enlarged PC's/HX30Super/W126 II front brakes/Vogtland springs/EGT +Boost gauges/H4 Hella's

George3soccer
Holset

373
01-14-2011, 11:29 PM #13
Very good lookin wagon you got there sir.

Mb 1984 w201 om603 swap.
Mb 1986 w201 190E 2.3-16v
Mb 2004 w203 C230k
George3soccer
01-14-2011, 11:29 PM #13

Very good lookin wagon you got there sir.


Mb 1984 w201 om603 swap.
Mb 1986 w201 190E 2.3-16v
Mb 2004 w203 C230k

Riverstick
GT2256V

114
01-15-2011, 04:26 PM #14
Beautiful very well kept car there.....keep up the good work

" It is far easier to get forgiveness rather than permission"
Riverstick
01-15-2011, 04:26 PM #14

Beautiful very well kept car there.....keep up the good work


" It is far easier to get forgiveness rather than permission"

 
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