Electronic variable vane control
Electronic variable vane control
01-12-2009, 07:56 PM
#18
(01-12-2009, 02:01 AM)ForcedInduction By the time you have a crude example that will barely idle, you'll have spent more than the cost of a CDI crate engine and ECM.
have you looked at the code ?
to start and run a warm CDI engine would only use parts of either codebase
and would be fairly trivial to get running.
All you need for basic running is a crank sensor, throttle position,
very simple fuel curve.. done
add in reliable cold starting, turbo's, varying altitudes, O2 sensors, ambient temp, etc etc etc.. its starts to get more complicated. But I would bet I could have one running quite nicley in an afternoon of work.
Thats the great thing about software, very major and very minor changes take the exact amount of time to implement.. seconds.
all of this is assuming we have (or can get) the CAN-bus protocol specifics for the electronic OM606 pump, and related sensors. but even if we can't just sniff them off the bus and document it yourself.
for a test bed we would need a complete running OM606 car to gather this operational data. Then collect basic running CB data dumps, and model the new code after how MB does it. It would be really close to the factory setup and work as the baseline. Start tweaking from there.
I dont think you would spend much money at all, unless you actually paid yourself the going rate for this type of HW/SW development, and forced is right.. you could have not one, but a trainload of brand new crate motors.. but I dont think that is the point.
just my .02
cars
1991 W126 350SDL turbodiesel
1987 W124 E300D turbodiesel
1987 W126 300SDL turbodiesel
1984 W107 SL300D turbodiesel
1974 W115 /8 300D diesel
trucks
2001 Dodge RAM 3500 4x4 Cummins turbodiesel
boats
1974 Uniflite "Salty Dog" powered by
2x OM617.951 Mercedes Benz 5Cyl turbodiesels
oel_brenner
01-12-2009, 07:56 PM #18(01-12-2009, 02:01 AM)ForcedInduction By the time you have a crude example that will barely idle, you'll have spent more than the cost of a CDI crate engine and ECM.
have you looked at the code ?
to start and run a warm CDI engine would only use parts of either codebase
and would be fairly trivial to get running.
All you need for basic running is a crank sensor, throttle position,
very simple fuel curve.. done
add in reliable cold starting, turbo's, varying altitudes, O2 sensors, ambient temp, etc etc etc.. its starts to get more complicated. But I would bet I could have one running quite nicley in an afternoon of work.
Thats the great thing about software, very major and very minor changes take the exact amount of time to implement.. seconds.
all of this is assuming we have (or can get) the CAN-bus protocol specifics for the electronic OM606 pump, and related sensors. but even if we can't just sniff them off the bus and document it yourself.
for a test bed we would need a complete running OM606 car to gather this operational data. Then collect basic running CB data dumps, and model the new code after how MB does it. It would be really close to the factory setup and work as the baseline. Start tweaking from there.
I dont think you would spend much money at all, unless you actually paid yourself the going rate for this type of HW/SW development, and forced is right.. you could have not one, but a trainload of brand new crate motors.. but I dont think that is the point.
just my .02
cars
1991 W126 350SDL turbodiesel
1987 W124 E300D turbodiesel
1987 W126 300SDL turbodiesel
1984 W107 SL300D turbodiesel
1974 W115 /8 300D diesel
trucks
2001 Dodge RAM 3500 4x4 Cummins turbodiesel
boats
1974 Uniflite "Salty Dog" powered by
2x OM617.951 Mercedes Benz 5Cyl turbodiesels
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Electronic variable vane control - by winmutt - 01-08-2009, 05:47 PM
RE: Electronic doodads - by winmutt - 01-08-2009, 06:13 PM
RE: Electronic doodads - by Gross Polluter - 01-09-2009, 02:22 AM
RE: Electronic doodads - by ForcedInduction - 01-09-2009, 04:03 AM
RE: Electronic doodads - by winmutt - 01-09-2009, 08:10 AM
RE: Electronic doodads - by winmutt - 01-09-2009, 09:11 AM
RE: Electronic doodads - by Gross Polluter - 01-09-2009, 09:41 AM
RE: Electronic doodads - by GREASY_BEAST - 01-09-2009, 10:54 AM
RE: Electronic doodads - by winmutt - 01-09-2009, 11:05 AM
RE: Electronic doodads - by GREASY_BEAST - 01-09-2009, 01:10 PM
RE: Electronic doodads - by winmutt - 01-09-2009, 02:55 PM
RE: Electronic doodads - by oel_brenner - 01-10-2009, 01:02 PM
RE: Electronic doodads - by GREASY_BEAST - 01-11-2009, 12:45 PM
RE: Electronic doodads - by tantank79 - 01-12-2009, 01:21 AM
RE: Electronic doodads - by Telecommbrkr - 01-11-2009, 10:37 PM
RE: Electronic doodads - by winmutt - 01-12-2009, 10:20 AM
RE: Electronic doodads - by ForcedInduction - 01-12-2009, 02:01 AM
RE: Electronic doodads - by oel_brenner - 01-12-2009, 07:56 PM
RE: Electronic doodads - by winmutt - 01-12-2009, 08:49 PM
RE: Electronic doodads - by oel_brenner - 01-12-2009, 09:03 PM
RE: Electronic doodads - by winmutt - 01-12-2009, 09:40 PM
RE: Electronic doodads - by GREASY_BEAST - 01-14-2009, 03:05 PM
RE: Electronic doodads - by oel_brenner - 01-14-2009, 11:41 PM
RE: Electronic doodads - by Gross Polluter - 01-15-2009, 01:57 AM
RE: Electronic doodads - by Tymbrymi - 01-30-2009, 01:54 PM
RE: Electronic doodads - by winmutt - 01-14-2009, 05:21 PM
RE: Electronic doodads - by winmutt - 01-15-2009, 10:06 AM
RE: Electronic doodads - by winmutt - 01-20-2009, 10:29 PM
RE: Electronic doodads - by winmutt - 01-20-2009, 11:16 PM
RE: Electronic doodads - by winmutt - 01-21-2009, 02:55 PM
RE: Electronic doodads - by cannonballSDL - 01-25-2009, 04:02 AM
RE: Electronic doodads - by winmutt - 01-26-2009, 10:37 AM
RE: Electronic doodads - by winmutt - 01-30-2009, 02:08 PM
RE: Electronic doodads - by Tymbrymi - 01-30-2009, 02:47 PM
RE: Electronic doodads - by ForcedInduction - 03-17-2009, 07:25 PM
RE: Electronic doodads - by Tymbrymi - 03-18-2009, 07:51 AM
RE: Electronic doodads - by ForcedInduction - 03-18-2009, 07:59 AM
RE: Electronic doodads - by GREASY_BEAST - 03-18-2009, 09:13 AM
RE: Electronic doodads - by Tymbrymi - 03-19-2009, 08:36 AM
RE: Electronic doodads - by GREASY_BEAST - 03-19-2009, 11:45 AM
RE: Electronic doodads - by GREASY_BEAST - 03-21-2009, 09:54 AM
RE: Electronic doodads - by Tymbrymi - 03-23-2009, 07:40 AM
RE: Electronic doodads - by GREASY_BEAST - 03-23-2009, 10:41 AM
RE: Electronic doodads - by winmutt - 03-17-2009, 07:41 PM
RE: Electronic doodads - by ForcedInduction - 03-17-2009, 07:44 PM
RE: Electronic doodads - by winmutt - 03-17-2009, 07:47 PM
RE: Electronic doodads - by winmutt - 03-18-2009, 03:02 PM
RE: Electronic doodads - by 300SD81 - 03-23-2009, 10:10 AM
RE: Electronic doodads - by Tymbrymi - 03-25-2009, 08:17 AM
RE: Electronic doodads - by 300SD81 - 03-23-2009, 06:45 PM
RE: Electronic doodads - by winmutt - 03-24-2009, 10:08 AM
RE: Electronic doodads - by Gross Polluter - 03-24-2009, 02:54 PM
RE: Electronic doodads - by winmutt - 09-04-2009, 10:31 AM
RE: Electronic doodads - by 300SD81 - 03-29-2009, 11:53 AM
RE: Electronic doodads - by 300SD81 - 04-09-2009, 10:23 AM
RE: Electronic doodads - by oel_brenner - 04-20-2009, 10:54 PM
RE: Electronic doodads - by 300SD81 - 04-20-2009, 11:40 PM
RE: Electronic doodads - by ForcedInduction - 04-21-2009, 05:45 PM
RE: Electronic doodads - by oel_brenner - 04-21-2009, 10:06 PM
RE: Electronic doodads - by oel_brenner - 04-29-2009, 10:41 PM
RE: Electronic doodads - by oel_brenner - 04-30-2009, 10:48 PM
RE: Electronic doodads - by Gross Polluter - 06-05-2009, 03:55 PM
RE: Electronic doodads - by winmutt - 09-03-2009, 01:27 PM
RE: Electronic doodads - by Tymbrymi - 09-03-2009, 01:36 PM
RE: Electronic doodads - by winmutt - 09-03-2009, 02:25 PM
RE: Electronic doodads - by tomnik - 09-04-2009, 06:15 AM
RE: Electronic variable vane control - by winmutt - 09-04-2009, 08:27 AM
RE: Electronic variable vane control - by Tymbrymi - 09-04-2009, 01:33 PM
RE: Electronic variable vane control - by winmutt - 09-04-2009, 03:21 PM
RE: Electronic variable vane control - by winmutt - 01-22-2011, 10:21 PM
RE: Electronic variable vane control - by aaa - 01-22-2011, 10:53 PM
RE: Electronic variable vane control - by winmutt - 01-22-2011, 11:38 PM
RE: Electronic variable vane control - by Spaceraver - 01-23-2011, 12:08 PM
RE: Electronic variable vane control - by winmutt - 01-23-2011, 03:55 PM
RE: Electronic variable vane control - by winmutt - 01-24-2011, 09:25 AM
RE: Electronic variable vane control - by aaa - 01-24-2011, 05:04 PM
RE: Electronic variable vane control - by Spaceraver - 01-25-2011, 04:53 AM
RE: Electronic variable vane control - by winmutt - 01-25-2011, 09:40 AM
RE: Electronic variable vane control - by 300D50 - 01-25-2011, 12:01 PM
RE: Electronic variable vane control - by winmutt - 01-25-2011, 05:45 PM
RE: Electronic variable vane control - by MTUPower - 01-25-2011, 07:15 PM
RE: Electronic variable vane control - by aaa - 01-25-2011, 07:21 PM
RE: Electronic variable vane control - by winmutt - 01-26-2011, 06:28 PM
RE: Electronic variable vane control - by tomnik - 01-27-2011, 12:45 AM
RE: Electronic variable vane control - by Syncro_G - 01-27-2011, 10:17 AM
RE: Electronic variable vane control - by 300D50 - 01-27-2011, 10:43 AM
RE: Electronic variable vane control - by aaa - 02-01-2011, 08:01 PM
RE: Electronic variable vane control - by winmutt - 03-04-2011, 09:38 PM
RE: Electronic variable vane control - by 300D50 - 03-04-2011, 11:45 PM
RE: Electronic variable vane control - by winmutt - 03-07-2011, 10:14 AM
RE: Electronic variable vane control - by 300D50 - 03-07-2011, 02:46 PM
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