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winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
12-08-2010, 04:10 PM #1
I have turned on administrator approval for new signups to limit the amount of spam that we have been getting. If the IP looks OK I am sending an email to interact with the user. If it doesnt look OK then I am waiting for the user to complain about their access....

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
12-08-2010, 04:10 PM #1

I have turned on administrator approval for new signups to limit the amount of spam that we have been getting. If the IP looks OK I am sending an email to interact with the user. If it doesnt look OK then I am waiting for the user to complain about their access....


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

Captain America
Boostin' & Roostin'

2,221
12-08-2010, 04:50 PM #2
Sounds good


1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Captain America
12-08-2010, 04:50 PM #2

Sounds good



1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

ForcedInduction
Banned

3,628
12-11-2010, 09:09 AM #3
Very bad choice. 99% of people that aren't able to post to a forum right away after joining never return to the site. They are even less likely to return if they have to play chit-chat with somebody before they can post in the open forum.

If you and your buddy can't deal with spam you should get a moderator that can.
ForcedInduction
12-11-2010, 09:09 AM #3

Very bad choice. 99% of people that aren't able to post to a forum right away after joining never return to the site. They are even less likely to return if they have to play chit-chat with somebody before they can post in the open forum.

If you and your buddy can't deal with spam you should get a moderator that can.

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
12-11-2010, 09:22 AM #4
(12-11-2010, 09:09 AM)ForcedInduction Very bad choice. 99% of people that aren't able to post spam to a forum right away after joining never return to the site. They are even less likely to return if they have to play chit-chat with somebody before they can post in the open forum.

If you and your buddy can't deal with spam you should get a moderator that can.

I fixed it for you.

It was not an easy decision to make. I also think that every person you describe is not going to be a valuable contributor.

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
12-11-2010, 09:22 AM #4

(12-11-2010, 09:09 AM)ForcedInduction Very bad choice. 99% of people that aren't able to post spam to a forum right away after joining never return to the site. They are even less likely to return if they have to play chit-chat with somebody before they can post in the open forum.

If you and your buddy can't deal with spam you should get a moderator that can.

I fixed it for you.

It was not an easy decision to make. I also think that every person you describe is not going to be a valuable contributor.


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

ForcedInduction
Banned

3,628
12-11-2010, 10:35 AM #5
(12-11-2010, 09:22 AM)winmutt I fixed it for you.
No, you atered it to suit your imagination. On Mercedes Forum there are a dozen spam posts per day, what is done about it? I deal with them by removing the spam posts as they occur so the forum remains free and easy for humans to post questions.

Quote:I also think that every person you describe is not going to be a valuable contributor.
Then I think this forum will get very few new members of any kind. Might as well lock it up like Schuman, Henry.
This post was last modified: 12-11-2010, 10:36 AM by ForcedInduction.
ForcedInduction
12-11-2010, 10:35 AM #5

(12-11-2010, 09:22 AM)winmutt I fixed it for you.
No, you atered it to suit your imagination. On Mercedes Forum there are a dozen spam posts per day, what is done about it? I deal with them by removing the spam posts as they occur so the forum remains free and easy for humans to post questions.

Quote:I also think that every person you describe is not going to be a valuable contributor.
Then I think this forum will get very few new members of any kind. Might as well lock it up like Schuman, Henry.

300D50
Graphite Moderator, ala RBMK

775
12-11-2010, 05:38 PM #6
Most forums i've worked with just have newb posts put in a moderation queue untill X posts, then ban if there's spam.
Admin auth works for smaller sites with low traffic, but does have the (possible) downside of loosing spontaneous new users.

In the end, you never know till you use it.

1990 Power Ram 50 V6 SOHC 24V 6g72

I can be wrong, don't take everything I say as verbatim, please fact-check first.
My posts are my personal opinions and thoughts, unless otherwise noted.
300D50
12-11-2010, 05:38 PM #6

Most forums i've worked with just have newb posts put in a moderation queue untill X posts, then ban if there's spam.
Admin auth works for smaller sites with low traffic, but does have the (possible) downside of loosing spontaneous new users.

In the end, you never know till you use it.


1990 Power Ram 50 V6 SOHC 24V 6g72

I can be wrong, don't take everything I say as verbatim, please fact-check first.
My posts are my personal opinions and thoughts, unless otherwise noted.

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
12-13-2010, 09:36 AM #7
I will see if there is a module for this. Unfortunately mybb, being free, is not as well supported as vbulletin etc. I have considered swapping over to vbulletin, if there was enough interest I would do a fundraiser for it.

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
12-13-2010, 09:36 AM #7

I will see if there is a module for this. Unfortunately mybb, being free, is not as well supported as vbulletin etc. I have considered swapping over to vbulletin, if there was enough interest I would do a fundraiser for it.


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

300D50
Graphite Moderator, ala RBMK

775
12-13-2010, 01:44 PM #8
Phpbb3 has a larger following, if you can deal with the 2 year "it'll be released soon, don't count on the api's being the same though" periods.
VB is good, but it's still mainly community developed afaik.
I'm not sure which I'd rather have.

1990 Power Ram 50 V6 SOHC 24V 6g72

I can be wrong, don't take everything I say as verbatim, please fact-check first.
My posts are my personal opinions and thoughts, unless otherwise noted.
300D50
12-13-2010, 01:44 PM #8

Phpbb3 has a larger following, if you can deal with the 2 year "it'll be released soon, don't count on the api's being the same though" periods.
VB is good, but it's still mainly community developed afaik.
I'm not sure which I'd rather have.


1990 Power Ram 50 V6 SOHC 24V 6g72

I can be wrong, don't take everything I say as verbatim, please fact-check first.
My posts are my personal opinions and thoughts, unless otherwise noted.

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
12-13-2010, 02:29 PM #9
We used phpbb for a very short time. From a maintenance aspect its a nightmare.

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
12-13-2010, 02:29 PM #9

We used phpbb for a very short time. From a maintenance aspect its a nightmare.


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

muuris
OM605

318
12-13-2010, 03:40 PM #10
How badly is the forum getting spam?


(12-11-2010, 10:35 AM)ForcedInduction No, you atered it to suit your imagination.

I find this funny. You have never done this, have you?

If you can't remember... #78 and #89.
muuris
12-13-2010, 03:40 PM #10

How badly is the forum getting spam?


(12-11-2010, 10:35 AM)ForcedInduction No, you atered it to suit your imagination.

I find this funny. You have never done this, have you?

If you can't remember... #78 and #89.

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
12-13-2010, 03:49 PM #11
(12-13-2010, 03:40 PM)muuris How badly is the forum getting spam?
Any is bad IMO.

A funny pic :
[Image: constructive.png]



1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
12-13-2010, 03:49 PM #11

(12-13-2010, 03:40 PM)muuris How badly is the forum getting spam?
Any is bad IMO.

A funny pic :
[Image: constructive.png]



1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
12-13-2010, 04:25 PM #12
I've re-enabled regular admissions with the addition of some new protections.
This post was last modified: 12-13-2010, 04:26 PM by winmutt.

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
12-13-2010, 04:25 PM #12

I've re-enabled regular admissions with the addition of some new protections.


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

300D50
Graphite Moderator, ala RBMK

775
12-13-2010, 10:10 PM #13
(12-13-2010, 02:29 PM)winmutt We used phpbb for a very short time. From a maintenance aspect its a nightmare.

Amen.

But you have to give it credit, once it's tweaked between upgrades, it's nice. Tongue

The bbs 4x4wire usees, while spartan, is also good.

But this one seems great for now, and there's no $$$ issues.
$$$ donated = expectations.
Been there. Done that. Have a white elephant to prove it.

1990 Power Ram 50 V6 SOHC 24V 6g72

I can be wrong, don't take everything I say as verbatim, please fact-check first.
My posts are my personal opinions and thoughts, unless otherwise noted.
300D50
12-13-2010, 10:10 PM #13

(12-13-2010, 02:29 PM)winmutt We used phpbb for a very short time. From a maintenance aspect its a nightmare.

Amen.

But you have to give it credit, once it's tweaked between upgrades, it's nice. Tongue

The bbs 4x4wire usees, while spartan, is also good.

But this one seems great for now, and there's no $$$ issues.
$$$ donated = expectations.
Been there. Done that. Have a white elephant to prove it.


1990 Power Ram 50 V6 SOHC 24V 6g72

I can be wrong, don't take everything I say as verbatim, please fact-check first.
My posts are my personal opinions and thoughts, unless otherwise noted.

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
12-14-2010, 08:49 AM #14
And lets be honest here. I am lazy. I have many higher priorities over this one. I may end up writing a plugin to auto moderate new users, seems like there isnt one right now.

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
12-14-2010, 08:49 AM #14

And lets be honest here. I am lazy. I have many higher priorities over this one. I may end up writing a plugin to auto moderate new users, seems like there isnt one right now.


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
12-29-2010, 09:47 PM #15
So even with all the plugins available we were still getting 2-3 spam signups a day vs 1-2 normal ones. I re-enabled admin approval and despite dire predictions everything is going pretty well. I have noticed that there are three areas that seem to be the worst, malaysia/phillipines, india and soft layer. From my experiences at work soft layer is almost certainly bad people doing bad things.

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
12-29-2010, 09:47 PM #15

So even with all the plugins available we were still getting 2-3 spam signups a day vs 1-2 normal ones. I re-enabled admin approval and despite dire predictions everything is going pretty well. I have noticed that there are three areas that seem to be the worst, malaysia/phillipines, india and soft layer. From my experiences at work soft layer is almost certainly bad people doing bad things.


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

300D50
Graphite Moderator, ala RBMK

775
12-29-2010, 09:54 PM #16
Crap, The planet and softlayer merged... not good for me...

1990 Power Ram 50 V6 SOHC 24V 6g72

I can be wrong, don't take everything I say as verbatim, please fact-check first.
My posts are my personal opinions and thoughts, unless otherwise noted.
300D50
12-29-2010, 09:54 PM #16

Crap, The planet and softlayer merged... not good for me...


1990 Power Ram 50 V6 SOHC 24V 6g72

I can be wrong, don't take everything I say as verbatim, please fact-check first.
My posts are my personal opinions and thoughts, unless otherwise noted.

ForcedInduction
Banned

3,628
01-18-2011, 09:46 AM #17
What the hell is this?

"The girl who usually does not know who accidentally injured his dream full cry"
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ForcedInduction
01-18-2011, 09:46 AM #17

What the hell is this?

"The girl who usually does not know who accidentally injured his dream full cry"

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Spaceraver
K26-2

40
01-22-2011, 01:14 PM #18
Ask a simple question like "what is eight plus eight (16)" and add captcha/ image challenge. It might even be a random image of everyday things. But it should test the user to find out whether it's a bot or not.

I wouldn't mind getting an STD..Tongue
Spaceraver
01-22-2011, 01:14 PM #18

Ask a simple question like "what is eight plus eight (16)" and add captcha/ image challenge. It might even be a random image of everyday things. But it should test the user to find out whether it's a bot or not.


I wouldn't mind getting an STD..Tongue

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
01-22-2011, 11:09 PM #19
We already have capcha or did you forget Big Grin. There is no plugin for the simple question/answer routines Sad

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
01-22-2011, 11:09 PM #19

We already have capcha or did you forget Big Grin. There is no plugin for the simple question/answer routines Sad


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

Spaceraver
K26-2

40
01-23-2011, 12:19 PM #20
Tehee... Silly me..
But the plugin would cut down a lot on the forum spam if it were available.

I wouldn't mind getting an STD..Tongue
Spaceraver
01-23-2011, 12:19 PM #20

Tehee... Silly me..
But the plugin would cut down a lot on the forum spam if it were available.


I wouldn't mind getting an STD..Tongue

Syncro_G
0-60 in 29 sec

280
01-23-2011, 04:35 PM #21
(01-23-2011, 12:19 PM)Spaceraver Tehee... Silly me..
But the plugin would cut down a lot on the forum spam if it were available.

on the forum I moderate (phpbb as mentioned elsewhere), we tried captcha with various strengths and all did only a little to help. putting in a very simple Q/A nearly stopped it completely. the few spams we get now appear to be from humans - mostly people trying to sell golf clubs. but that's down to about 1 a month at most.

spams didn't go down immediately. lost of bots sign up and stay dormant for up to a month so it takes a while for those to flush out.

-C

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'84 G-Wagen turbodiesel
'75 240D 4-Speed

Syncro_G
01-23-2011, 04:35 PM #21

(01-23-2011, 12:19 PM)Spaceraver Tehee... Silly me..
But the plugin would cut down a lot on the forum spam if it were available.

on the forum I moderate (phpbb as mentioned elsewhere), we tried captcha with various strengths and all did only a little to help. putting in a very simple Q/A nearly stopped it completely. the few spams we get now appear to be from humans - mostly people trying to sell golf clubs. but that's down to about 1 a month at most.

spams didn't go down immediately. lost of bots sign up and stay dormant for up to a month so it takes a while for those to flush out.

-C


-------------
'84 G-Wagen turbodiesel
'75 240D 4-Speed

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
01-23-2011, 04:42 PM #22
.ph and .in accounts for 90% of the spammers we get. They get auto deleted.

I actually like doing admin review signups. It gives me a chance to learn more about the members here.
This post was last modified: 01-23-2011, 04:47 PM by winmutt.

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
01-23-2011, 04:42 PM #22

.ph and .in accounts for 90% of the spammers we get. They get auto deleted.

I actually like doing admin review signups. It gives me a chance to learn more about the members here.


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

 
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