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water injector?

water injector?

 
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larsalan
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1,272
10-15-2010, 10:03 AM #1
I was just over at rudolph's skunkworks thread and got looking at water injection systems. I read on to see that injecting water might be used as a good way to steam clean the 617 motor.
As you may also know my alda system is all messed up. As such there is what I think would be a great spot for a water injector. At the aft end of the intake manifold there is a banjo bolt that is doing nothing now.

Sound like a feasible plan for an occasional cleaning?

Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
larsalan
10-15-2010, 10:03 AM #1

I was just over at rudolph's skunkworks thread and got looking at water injection systems. I read on to see that injecting water might be used as a good way to steam clean the 617 motor.
As you may also know my alda system is all messed up. As such there is what I think would be a great spot for a water injector. At the aft end of the intake manifold there is a banjo bolt that is doing nothing now.

Sound like a feasible plan for an occasional cleaning?


Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'

George3soccer
Holset

373
10-15-2010, 11:05 AM #2
Just get a good water/meth mix, and have it injected during driving, and not just for cleaning the motor.
George3soccer
10-15-2010, 11:05 AM #2

Just get a good water/meth mix, and have it injected during driving, and not just for cleaning the motor.

larsalan
Superturbo

1,272
10-15-2010, 12:12 PM #3
(10-15-2010, 11:05 AM)George3soccer Just get a good water/meth mix, and have it injected during driving, and not just for cleaning the motor.

from that spot I had mentioned? Where could I find an injector to fit in there? All of this is a while off as I am broke but, I'd like to work on the planning.

Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
larsalan
10-15-2010, 12:12 PM #3

(10-15-2010, 11:05 AM)George3soccer Just get a good water/meth mix, and have it injected during driving, and not just for cleaning the motor.

from that spot I had mentioned? Where could I find an injector to fit in there? All of this is a while off as I am broke but, I'd like to work on the planning.


Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'

Rudolf_Diesel
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579
10-15-2010, 12:49 PM #4
I would inject it where the EGR mounts, that way it is distributed along the intake manifold. Otherwise it may be inhibited by the boost pressure moving along the manifold toward #5 cylinder.

1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
10-15-2010, 12:49 PM #4

I would inject it where the EGR mounts, that way it is distributed along the intake manifold. Otherwise it may be inhibited by the boost pressure moving along the manifold toward #5 cylinder.


1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.

300D50
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775
10-15-2010, 12:49 PM #5
That banjo bolt is close to unobtanium, keep that in mind before thinking of modifying it for any other duty.

1990 Power Ram 50 V6 SOHC 24V 6g72

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300D50
10-15-2010, 12:49 PM #5

That banjo bolt is close to unobtanium, keep that in mind before thinking of modifying it for any other duty.


1990 Power Ram 50 V6 SOHC 24V 6g72

I can be wrong, don't take everything I say as verbatim, please fact-check first.
My posts are my personal opinions and thoughts, unless otherwise noted.

larsalan
Superturbo

1,272
10-15-2010, 01:46 PM #6
(10-15-2010, 12:49 PM)300D50 That banjo bolt is close to unobtanium, keep that in mind before thinking of modifying it for any other duty.

I wouldn't modify it. Just take it out and then I would have a threaded spot in my intake manifold. Maybe that would be a good spot for a boost gauge and I can try what rudolf suggests.

I dunno how I would mod the egr inlet to allow injection. I guess tap a piece of steel plate and use that to join to the void left by removing the egr. How thick a piece of steel would I need to make a good set of threads?

I read that windshield cleaner. The blue or purple stuff is meth/water. Is that ok to put in the engine? I am kinda blown away by the idea of water being put into a combustion chamber.
This post was last modified: 10-15-2010, 01:49 PM by larsalan.

Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
larsalan
10-15-2010, 01:46 PM #6

(10-15-2010, 12:49 PM)300D50 That banjo bolt is close to unobtanium, keep that in mind before thinking of modifying it for any other duty.

I wouldn't modify it. Just take it out and then I would have a threaded spot in my intake manifold. Maybe that would be a good spot for a boost gauge and I can try what rudolf suggests.

I dunno how I would mod the egr inlet to allow injection. I guess tap a piece of steel plate and use that to join to the void left by removing the egr. How thick a piece of steel would I need to make a good set of threads?

I read that windshield cleaner. The blue or purple stuff is meth/water. Is that ok to put in the engine? I am kinda blown away by the idea of water being put into a combustion chamber.


Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'

ForcedInduction
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3,628
10-15-2010, 04:55 PM #7
(10-15-2010, 10:03 AM)larsalan As such there is what I think would be a great spot for a water injector.
That will only inject into the #5 cylinder and hydrolock it.

(10-15-2010, 12:49 PM)Rudolf_Diesel I would inject it where the EGR mounts, that way it is distributed along the intake manifold.
That would inject almost entirely into the #1 cylinder.
Thats where my original system injected and it returned really poor results.
   

The turbo housing is the closest point water should be injected into the engine.
Just moving back the injection point 3" makes a night and day difference in how the system works.
   
This post was last modified: 10-15-2010, 05:56 PM by ForcedInduction.
ForcedInduction
10-15-2010, 04:55 PM #7

(10-15-2010, 10:03 AM)larsalan As such there is what I think would be a great spot for a water injector.
That will only inject into the #5 cylinder and hydrolock it.

(10-15-2010, 12:49 PM)Rudolf_Diesel I would inject it where the EGR mounts, that way it is distributed along the intake manifold.
That would inject almost entirely into the #1 cylinder.
Thats where my original system injected and it returned really poor results.
   

The turbo housing is the closest point water should be injected into the engine.
Just moving back the injection point 3" makes a night and day difference in how the system works.
   

Rudolf_Diesel
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579
10-15-2010, 05:23 PM #8
What are you using for nozzles FI?

1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
10-15-2010, 05:23 PM #8

What are you using for nozzles FI?


1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.

ForcedInduction
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3,628
10-15-2010, 05:57 PM #9
200cc on the 240D (pictured) and 6x70cc on the 300D.
ForcedInduction
10-15-2010, 05:57 PM #9

200cc on the 240D (pictured) and 6x70cc on the 300D.

larsalan
Superturbo

1,272
10-15-2010, 06:05 PM #10
FI you say the turbo housing is the closest water should be injected. The only place further would be pre turbo. I read some people having concern about putting water through the turbo.
Would you say it's ok to put water through the turbo. Or is the turbo housing essentially the best place to put it in.

Also what about that wiper fluid? Is that really meth/water and a proper mix to inject?

Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
larsalan
10-15-2010, 06:05 PM #10

FI you say the turbo housing is the closest water should be injected. The only place further would be pre turbo. I read some people having concern about putting water through the turbo.
Would you say it's ok to put water through the turbo. Or is the turbo housing essentially the best place to put it in.

Also what about that wiper fluid? Is that really meth/water and a proper mix to inject?


Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'

Rudolf_Diesel
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579
10-15-2010, 06:09 PM #11
(10-15-2010, 05:57 PM)ForcedInduction 200cc on the 240D (pictured) and 6x70cc on the 300D.

I know the quantity from what I have read about your system, I mean what brand or style? Do you have a link or pic?

I have a very atomized spray pattern from the results of my testing with nozzle and pump combo.

1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
10-15-2010, 06:09 PM #11

(10-15-2010, 05:57 PM)ForcedInduction 200cc on the 240D (pictured) and 6x70cc on the 300D.

I know the quantity from what I have read about your system, I mean what brand or style? Do you have a link or pic?

I have a very atomized spray pattern from the results of my testing with nozzle and pump combo.


1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.

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3,628
10-15-2010, 06:09 PM #12
(10-15-2010, 06:05 PM)larsalan Would you say it's ok to put water through the turbo.
No. Thats the worst place.

Quote:Also what about that wiper fluid?
I use off the shelf -20*f washer fluid in both my systems. Its just water, 35% methanol and blue dye.
This post was last modified: 10-15-2010, 06:10 PM by ForcedInduction.
ForcedInduction
10-15-2010, 06:09 PM #12

(10-15-2010, 06:05 PM)larsalan Would you say it's ok to put water through the turbo.
No. Thats the worst place.

Quote:Also what about that wiper fluid?
I use off the shelf -20*f washer fluid in both my systems. Its just water, 35% methanol and blue dye.

Rudolf_Diesel
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579
10-15-2010, 06:20 PM #13
Some people inject before the turbo, it supposedly changes some characteristics of the turbo, but others have reported about compressor erosion. Personally I wouldn't put it in that position.

I use 50% distilled water and 50% denatured alcohol, it is pretty expensive, but it works for me.
This post was last modified: 10-15-2010, 06:20 PM by Rudolf_Diesel.

1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
10-15-2010, 06:20 PM #13

Some people inject before the turbo, it supposedly changes some characteristics of the turbo, but others have reported about compressor erosion. Personally I wouldn't put it in that position.

I use 50% distilled water and 50% denatured alcohol, it is pretty expensive, but it works for me.


1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.

alarm92
Naturally-aspirated

6
10-16-2010, 09:07 AM #14
(10-15-2010, 06:20 PM)Rudolf_Diesel Some people inject before the turbo, it supposedly changes some characteristics of the turbo, but others have reported about compressor erosion. Personally I wouldn't put it in that position.

I use 50% distilled water and 50% denatured alcohol, it is pretty expensive, but it works for me.

I work at sea, and we actually wash our turbos with water Smile

First we push the engines at over 250 rpm (!!), then when the turbine is god and worm, we spray about 1 liter of water and crushed nuts inn it(høhø). This hits the blades and they sort of vibrates. Then they are clean and god to go ;P

We only do the nut trick on the exhaust side of the turbine, at the compressor side we use clean water

Aaand, this is my first post ^^,
This post was last modified: 10-16-2010, 09:27 AM by alarm92.

My English might be a bit funky, but i'm from Norway and i kind of sucked in English at school Wink

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Audi A4 1.8T 220hk
And a old moped
alarm92
10-16-2010, 09:07 AM #14

(10-15-2010, 06:20 PM)Rudolf_Diesel Some people inject before the turbo, it supposedly changes some characteristics of the turbo, but others have reported about compressor erosion. Personally I wouldn't put it in that position.

I use 50% distilled water and 50% denatured alcohol, it is pretty expensive, but it works for me.

I work at sea, and we actually wash our turbos with water Smile

First we push the engines at over 250 rpm (!!), then when the turbine is god and worm, we spray about 1 liter of water and crushed nuts inn it(høhø). This hits the blades and they sort of vibrates. Then they are clean and god to go ;P

We only do the nut trick on the exhaust side of the turbine, at the compressor side we use clean water

Aaand, this is my first post ^^,


My English might be a bit funky, but i'm from Norway and i kind of sucked in English at school Wink

MB W123 3.0 d turbo project
Audi A4 1.8T 220hk
And a old moped

larsalan
Superturbo

1,272
10-16-2010, 12:04 PM #15
^ nuts? like pecans or walnuts?

So, today I ran my window wiper hose into the intake pre-turbo. That stuff really adds pep at the high end! I can only imagine most of the kick comes from the meth.

Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
larsalan
10-16-2010, 12:04 PM #15

^ nuts? like pecans or walnuts?

So, today I ran my window wiper hose into the intake pre-turbo. That stuff really adds pep at the high end! I can only imagine most of the kick comes from the meth.


Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'

alarm92
Naturally-aspirated

6
10-16-2010, 12:08 PM #16
(10-16-2010, 12:04 PM)larsalan ^ nuts? like pecans or walnuts?

So, today I ran my window wiper hose into the intake pre-turbo. That stuff really adds pep at the high end! I can only imagine most of the kick comes from the meth.

Hazelnuts it the good stuff

My English might be a bit funky, but i'm from Norway and i kind of sucked in English at school Wink

MB W123 3.0 d turbo project
Audi A4 1.8T 220hk
And a old moped
alarm92
10-16-2010, 12:08 PM #16

(10-16-2010, 12:04 PM)larsalan ^ nuts? like pecans or walnuts?

So, today I ran my window wiper hose into the intake pre-turbo. That stuff really adds pep at the high end! I can only imagine most of the kick comes from the meth.

Hazelnuts it the good stuff


My English might be a bit funky, but i'm from Norway and i kind of sucked in English at school Wink

MB W123 3.0 d turbo project
Audi A4 1.8T 220hk
And a old moped

ForcedInduction
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3,628
10-16-2010, 06:07 PM #17
(10-16-2010, 12:04 PM)larsalan So, today I ran my window wiper hose into the intake pre-turbo.

Stop that!
ForcedInduction
10-16-2010, 06:07 PM #17

(10-16-2010, 12:04 PM)larsalan So, today I ran my window wiper hose into the intake pre-turbo.

Stop that!

Rudolf_Diesel
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579
10-16-2010, 06:19 PM #18
(10-16-2010, 06:07 PM)ForcedInduction
(10-16-2010, 12:04 PM)larsalan So, today I ran my window wiper hose into the intake pre-turbo.

Stop that!

Yes he should approach this a better way, Please tell him why he should stop...

1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
10-16-2010, 06:19 PM #18

(10-16-2010, 06:07 PM)ForcedInduction
(10-16-2010, 12:04 PM)larsalan So, today I ran my window wiper hose into the intake pre-turbo.

Stop that!

Yes he should approach this a better way, Please tell him why he should stop...


1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.

larsalan
Superturbo

1,272
10-16-2010, 06:29 PM #19
Oh, ok I'll stop. Just wanted to see it work.

Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
larsalan
10-16-2010, 06:29 PM #19

Oh, ok I'll stop. Just wanted to see it work.


Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'

ForcedInduction
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3,628
10-16-2010, 06:33 PM #20
Quote:Please tell him why he should stop.
Okay; snapping the turbo's shaft and/or hydrolocking the engine.
This post was last modified: 10-16-2010, 06:34 PM by ForcedInduction.
ForcedInduction
10-16-2010, 06:33 PM #20

Quote:Please tell him why he should stop.
Okay; snapping the turbo's shaft and/or hydrolocking the engine.

Rudolf_Diesel
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579
10-17-2010, 10:25 AM #21
FI are using a WI specific nozzle? It looks like your fittings are 1/8th NPT and I am trying to figure out how you have the nozzles intalled...

1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
10-17-2010, 10:25 AM #21

FI are using a WI specific nozzle? It looks like your fittings are 1/8th NPT and I am trying to figure out how you have the nozzles intalled...


1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.

Rudolf_Diesel
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579
10-17-2010, 11:43 AM #23
(10-17-2010, 11:04 AM)ForcedInduction Yes.
http://www.aquastealth.com/nozzleassemblies.aspx

Ok, I will have to buy one and see how it is put together. The one I am using has a small orifice and a stem inside that has four groves cut into the end and is spring loaded. It puts out a fine mist like the cooling mist nozzles used for cooling people outdoors, the drops are slightly larger.

http://burner.danfoss.com/danfosshago/do...&%20MW.pdf

1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
10-17-2010, 11:43 AM #23

(10-17-2010, 11:04 AM)ForcedInduction Yes.
http://www.aquastealth.com/nozzleassemblies.aspx

Ok, I will have to buy one and see how it is put together. The one I am using has a small orifice and a stem inside that has four groves cut into the end and is spring loaded. It puts out a fine mist like the cooling mist nozzles used for cooling people outdoors, the drops are slightly larger.

http://burner.danfoss.com/danfosshago/do...&%20MW.pdf


1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.

ForcedInduction
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10-17-2010, 12:43 PM #24
(10-17-2010, 11:43 AM)Rudolf_Diesel Ok, I will have to buy one and see how it is put together. The one I am using has a small orifice and a stem inside that has four groves cut into the end and is spring loaded.

Thats more like an actual injector. Most water nozzles are just machined.

ForcedInduction
10-17-2010, 12:43 PM #24

(10-17-2010, 11:43 AM)Rudolf_Diesel Ok, I will have to buy one and see how it is put together. The one I am using has a small orifice and a stem inside that has four groves cut into the end and is spring loaded.

Thats more like an actual injector. Most water nozzles are just machined.

Rudolf_Diesel
Ask me if I care...

579
10-17-2010, 01:23 PM #25
My spray pattern looks just like the one in the video.

1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
10-17-2010, 01:23 PM #25

My spray pattern looks just like the one in the video.


1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.

larsalan
Superturbo

1,272
10-21-2010, 06:02 PM #26
I had told this guy nick about the water injection and how it is supposed to increase compression and cool intake air.
He says a friend of his has done it w/ some semi tractors. Then he says be careful you don't bend a valve or put a hole in a piston. Don't those things sound like baloney or are those real possibilities?

Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
larsalan
10-21-2010, 06:02 PM #26

I had told this guy nick about the water injection and how it is supposed to increase compression and cool intake air.
He says a friend of his has done it w/ some semi tractors. Then he says be careful you don't bend a valve or put a hole in a piston. Don't those things sound like baloney or are those real possibilities?


Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'

300D50
Graphite Moderator, ala RBMK

775
10-21-2010, 06:16 PM #27
Depends if you flood a cylinder with H2O and try to comprress it...

1990 Power Ram 50 V6 SOHC 24V 6g72

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300D50
10-21-2010, 06:16 PM #27

Depends if you flood a cylinder with H2O and try to comprress it...


1990 Power Ram 50 V6 SOHC 24V 6g72

I can be wrong, don't take everything I say as verbatim, please fact-check first.
My posts are my personal opinions and thoughts, unless otherwise noted.

 
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