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larsalan
Superturbo

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09-30-2010, 09:27 PM #1
I ran a can of lubro-moly diesel purge and saw that it turned pretty sooty while running through. Also read the ingredients and see naphtha listed. I think it might be like 80% of that stuff.
That diesel purge was expensive and hard to get a hold of.
Can you run just naphtha or a naphtha diesel blend through to clean out the injectors etc.?

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/arch...63157.html

dig it?
This post was last modified: 09-30-2010, 09:32 PM by larsalan.
larsalan
09-30-2010, 09:27 PM #1

I ran a can of lubro-moly diesel purge and saw that it turned pretty sooty while running through. Also read the ingredients and see naphtha listed. I think it might be like 80% of that stuff.
That diesel purge was expensive and hard to get a hold of.
Can you run just naphtha or a naphtha diesel blend through to clean out the injectors etc.?


http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/arch...63157.html

dig it?

totaldisaster
lightly modded OM606

211
10-01-2010, 12:12 AM #2
I am no expert... but I wouldn't. You need something else to slow the burn.
You could have some pre-ignition in the PC's... that could bust them open. not fun.



Hey! veg oil would be great! (wheres FI?)



edit* I didn't see you wanted to add diesel.

Go for it? 60% diesel to be safe ?
This post was last modified: 10-01-2010, 12:29 AM by totaldisaster.
totaldisaster
10-01-2010, 12:12 AM #2

I am no expert... but I wouldn't. You need something else to slow the burn.
You could have some pre-ignition in the PC's... that could bust them open. not fun.



Hey! veg oil would be great! (wheres FI?)



edit* I didn't see you wanted to add diesel.

Go for it? 60% diesel to be safe ?

garage
Bush Taxi

893
10-01-2010, 12:36 AM #3
I add one gallon of Shell nitrogen enriched gasoline to a full tank about once every 2or3 months, and that definetly clears up gunk in my system.

Almost everytime i fill up with diesel i add either all of or half of the 32oz bottle of Diesel Kleen+cetane boost, and she loves it.
http://powerservice.com/dk/
This post was last modified: 10-02-2010, 11:28 AM by garage.

1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...
garage
10-01-2010, 12:36 AM #3

I add one gallon of Shell nitrogen enriched gasoline to a full tank about once every 2or3 months, and that definetly clears up gunk in my system.

Almost everytime i fill up with diesel i add either all of or half of the 32oz bottle of Diesel Kleen+cetane boost, and she loves it.
http://powerservice.com/dk/


1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...

Captain America
Boostin' & Roostin'

2,221
10-01-2010, 09:40 AM #4
Garage, How much gas to you add to a fuel tank of Diesel/Veg?


1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Captain America
10-01-2010, 09:40 AM #4

Garage, How much gas to you add to a fuel tank of Diesel/Veg?



1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

garage
Bush Taxi

893
10-01-2010, 12:26 PM #5
No more than one gallon!! I cant belive i didnt put that in the post above.
And i only use the nitrogen enriched 91octane gasoline from Shell.

One time on craigslist i found 40gallons of free diesel, the only catch was the dude accidently put 7gallons of gasoline into the diesel tank.
We pumped it out of his tank and ran it in our cars with 0 problems.

Gasoline will definetly clear out the gunk, and will also help keep the fuel from gelling in cold weather.
This post was last modified: 10-01-2010, 12:26 PM by garage.

1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...
garage
10-01-2010, 12:26 PM #5

No more than one gallon!! I cant belive i didnt put that in the post above.
And i only use the nitrogen enriched 91octane gasoline from Shell.

One time on craigslist i found 40gallons of free diesel, the only catch was the dude accidently put 7gallons of gasoline into the diesel tank.
We pumped it out of his tank and ran it in our cars with 0 problems.

Gasoline will definetly clear out the gunk, and will also help keep the fuel from gelling in cold weather.


1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...

Captain America
Boostin' & Roostin'

2,221
10-01-2010, 02:43 PM #6
Imma try that


1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Captain America
10-01-2010, 02:43 PM #6

Imma try that



1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

garage
Bush Taxi

893
10-01-2010, 03:05 PM #7
Make sure to report back and let us know how it works for you
This post was last modified: 10-01-2010, 03:05 PM by garage.

1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...
garage
10-01-2010, 03:05 PM #7

Make sure to report back and let us know how it works for you


1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...

Captain America
Boostin' & Roostin'

2,221
10-01-2010, 03:09 PM #8
I'll let you know when the rods come out the oil pan....


1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Captain America
10-01-2010, 03:09 PM #8

I'll let you know when the rods come out the oil pan....



1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

garage
Bush Taxi

893
10-01-2010, 03:10 PM #9
(10-01-2010, 03:09 PM)Captain America I'll let you know when the rods come out the oil pan....

Well as long as they dont go through your brand new NOS skid plate huh!

1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...
garage
10-01-2010, 03:10 PM #9

(10-01-2010, 03:09 PM)Captain America I'll let you know when the rods come out the oil pan....

Well as long as they dont go through your brand new NOS skid plate huh!


1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...

Captain America
Boostin' & Roostin'

2,221
10-01-2010, 08:03 PM #10
I'm thinking the skid plate will catch 'em up!


1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Captain America
10-01-2010, 08:03 PM #10

I'm thinking the skid plate will catch 'em up!



1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

ForcedInduction
Banned

3,628
10-02-2010, 05:47 AM #11
Do not use raw vegetable oil! It causes much more harm than good.

Get a tank of B50 or B99/B100 BioDiesel instead.
ForcedInduction
10-02-2010, 05:47 AM #11

Do not use raw vegetable oil! It causes much more harm than good.

Get a tank of B50 or B99/B100 BioDiesel instead.

larsalan
Superturbo

1,272
10-02-2010, 09:18 AM #12
(10-02-2010, 05:47 AM)ForcedInduction Do not use raw vegetable oil! It causes much more harm than good.

Get a tank of B50 or B99/B100 BioDiesel instead.

Do you have any recommendations on how to find it? I used this applet to find what stations have what bio blend but, it hasn't been useful in finding high blend like that.
http://www.nearbio.com/

I live near the very southern tip of illinois. I guess I might go out to st. louis and could get it somewhere there.
larsalan
10-02-2010, 09:18 AM #12

(10-02-2010, 05:47 AM)ForcedInduction Do not use raw vegetable oil! It causes much more harm than good.

Get a tank of B50 or B99/B100 BioDiesel instead.

Do you have any recommendations on how to find it? I used this applet to find what stations have what bio blend but, it hasn't been useful in finding high blend like that.
http://www.nearbio.com/

I live near the very southern tip of illinois. I guess I might go out to st. louis and could get it somewhere there.

ForcedInduction
Banned

3,628
10-02-2010, 10:07 AM #13
Call any place that has B20, they often have a 300gallon tote of B100.
ForcedInduction
10-02-2010, 10:07 AM #13

Call any place that has B20, they often have a 300gallon tote of B100.

garage
Bush Taxi

893
10-02-2010, 11:27 AM #14
I never told either of them, or suggested to use WVO.
I only suggested to use one gallon of gasoline to one full tank of diesel.


1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...
garage
10-02-2010, 11:27 AM #14

I never told either of them, or suggested to use WVO.
I only suggested to use one gallon of gasoline to one full tank of diesel.


1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...

ForcedInduction
Banned

3,628
10-02-2010, 12:18 PM #15
(10-02-2010, 11:27 AM)garage I never told either of them, or suggested to use WVO.
Wasn't you.
(10-01-2010, 12:12 AM)totaldisaster Hey! veg oil would be great!
ForcedInduction
10-02-2010, 12:18 PM #15

(10-02-2010, 11:27 AM)garage I never told either of them, or suggested to use WVO.
Wasn't you.
(10-01-2010, 12:12 AM)totaldisaster Hey! veg oil would be great!

garage
Bush Taxi

893
10-02-2010, 01:24 PM #16
Oopsy daisy!


1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...
garage
10-02-2010, 01:24 PM #16

Oopsy daisy!


1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...

Silberpfeil
Slowly Sideways

85
10-02-2010, 04:05 PM #17
Other inputs on a diesel purge?

What about kerosene??

FI you don't seem to like the Lubro Moly what do you use?

I personally think BG Products makes the best additives I've used but that don't have something specific for a diesel purge. However I am sold on the 244/248.

I'd really like to hear more inputs on this!

"Molly" Jan. '84 black/tan 300d 180k miles, two owner car
Silberpfeil
10-02-2010, 04:05 PM #17

Other inputs on a diesel purge?

What about kerosene??

FI you don't seem to like the Lubro Moly what do you use?

I personally think BG Products makes the best additives I've used but that don't have something specific for a diesel purge. However I am sold on the 244/248.

I'd really like to hear more inputs on this!


"Molly" Jan. '84 black/tan 300d 180k miles, two owner car

garage
Bush Taxi

893
10-02-2010, 04:58 PM #18
Well as far as other additives go.
Automatic transmission fluid cleans out the whole system really well. I carry a quart of it in my trunk at all times.

Ive used Lubro Molly before..its just kind of expensive, and ive found in my opinion that my engine likes the Diesel Kleen more than the Lubro.

Acetone in gasoline engines makes the cars emissions better.(good trick for a smog test). But ive never put it in my diesel.

Onetime at Home Depot, my dad found a whole shelf of metal gallon containers of kerosene on sale, I dont remember how much they were but i remember that he bought ALOT of it. We used that to thin out the WVO and it worked great.

Ive used a Lucas brand fuel system cleaner once. I didnt notice much.

Ive read about Marvel Mystery Oil being good for these cars, but ive yet to use it.
Lots of good info here.
http://www.dieselbombers.com/alternative...es-fluids/
This post was last modified: 10-02-2010, 05:01 PM by garage.

1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...
garage
10-02-2010, 04:58 PM #18

Well as far as other additives go.
Automatic transmission fluid cleans out the whole system really well. I carry a quart of it in my trunk at all times.

Ive used Lubro Molly before..its just kind of expensive, and ive found in my opinion that my engine likes the Diesel Kleen more than the Lubro.

Acetone in gasoline engines makes the cars emissions better.(good trick for a smog test). But ive never put it in my diesel.

Onetime at Home Depot, my dad found a whole shelf of metal gallon containers of kerosene on sale, I dont remember how much they were but i remember that he bought ALOT of it. We used that to thin out the WVO and it worked great.

Ive used a Lucas brand fuel system cleaner once. I didnt notice much.

Ive read about Marvel Mystery Oil being good for these cars, but ive yet to use it.


Lots of good info here.
http://www.dieselbombers.com/alternative...es-fluids/


1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...

ForcedInduction
Banned

3,628
10-02-2010, 10:50 PM #19
(10-02-2010, 04:05 PM)Silberpfeil FI you don't seem to like the Lubro Moly what do you use?

If you use a good fuel source you don't need anything. The occasional tank of B20/B50/B100 can be used as a "maintenance" cleaner before changing the fuel filters.
ForcedInduction
10-02-2010, 10:50 PM #19

(10-02-2010, 04:05 PM)Silberpfeil FI you don't seem to like the Lubro Moly what do you use?

If you use a good fuel source you don't need anything. The occasional tank of B20/B50/B100 can be used as a "maintenance" cleaner before changing the fuel filters.

 
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