STD Tuning Engine OM Exhaust Manifold Thread

OM Exhaust Manifold Thread

OM Exhaust Manifold Thread

 
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DeliveryValve
Superturbo

1,338
09-03-2010, 05:22 PM #1
Here are pictures of various 617 exhaust manifolds I've collected and thought it would be useful for some to see the differences. If there are any more variations please post them.

EGR Turbo Manifold

   


1978 Non-EGR Turbo Manifold - top vs 1984 EGR Turbo Manifold - bottom:front view (Notice single runner on rear exhaust ports - on left.)

   


1984 EGR Turbo Manifold - top vs 1978 Non-EGR Turbo Manifold - bottom : top view

   


1978 Non-EGR Turbo Manifold - top vs 1984 EGR Turbo Manifold - bottom: back view

   


N/A Manifold from 1978 w123 300D

   


1978 N/A Manifold - left vs 1984 EGR Turbo Manifold - Right

   


EGR Turbo Manifold - Top vs N/A Manifold - Bottom: top view

   


EGR Turbo Manifold - Top vs N/A Manifold - Bottom (Notice dual runners for rear exhaust ports): front view

   


EGR Turbo Manifold - Top vs N/A Manifold - Bottom: back view

   


N/A Manifold from 1975 W115 300D - Exhaust ports 1, 3, & 4 are exit the top port. Exhaust ports 2 & 5 exit lower port.

   


N/A Manifold from 1975 W115 300D: Back view

   


N/A Manifold from 1975 W115 300D: top view

   


N/A Manifold from 1975 w115 300D- left vs N/A Manifold from 1978 w123 300D

   


W115 N/A Manifold - Top vs Non-EGR Turbo Manifold - Middle vs EGR turbo Manifold - Bottom

   


W115 N/A Manifold - Left vs w123 N/A Manifold - Middle vs EGR turbo Manifold.

   







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This post was last modified: 08-11-2011, 07:54 AM by winmutt.

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DeliveryValve
09-03-2010, 05:22 PM #1

Here are pictures of various 617 exhaust manifolds I've collected and thought it would be useful for some to see the differences. If there are any more variations please post them.

EGR Turbo Manifold

   


1978 Non-EGR Turbo Manifold - top vs 1984 EGR Turbo Manifold - bottom:front view (Notice single runner on rear exhaust ports - on left.)

   


1984 EGR Turbo Manifold - top vs 1978 Non-EGR Turbo Manifold - bottom : top view

   


1978 Non-EGR Turbo Manifold - top vs 1984 EGR Turbo Manifold - bottom: back view

   


N/A Manifold from 1978 w123 300D

   


1978 N/A Manifold - left vs 1984 EGR Turbo Manifold - Right

   


EGR Turbo Manifold - Top vs N/A Manifold - Bottom: top view

   


EGR Turbo Manifold - Top vs N/A Manifold - Bottom (Notice dual runners for rear exhaust ports): front view

   


EGR Turbo Manifold - Top vs N/A Manifold - Bottom: back view

   


N/A Manifold from 1975 W115 300D - Exhaust ports 1, 3, & 4 are exit the top port. Exhaust ports 2 & 5 exit lower port.

   


N/A Manifold from 1975 W115 300D: Back view

   


N/A Manifold from 1975 W115 300D: top view

   


N/A Manifold from 1975 w115 300D- left vs N/A Manifold from 1978 w123 300D

   


W115 N/A Manifold - Top vs Non-EGR Turbo Manifold - Middle vs EGR turbo Manifold - Bottom

   


W115 N/A Manifold - Left vs w123 N/A Manifold - Middle vs EGR turbo Manifold.

   







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Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



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ForcedInduction
Banned

3,628
09-03-2010, 06:38 PM #2
OM603, TrapOx
   

OM603, non-TrapOx
   

TrapOx/Oxcat
   

E320 CDI
   

"Hi tuned" T04 manifold, OM617
       
This post was last modified: 09-03-2010, 06:40 PM by ForcedInduction.
ForcedInduction
09-03-2010, 06:38 PM #2

OM603, TrapOx
   

OM603, non-TrapOx
   

TrapOx/Oxcat
   

E320 CDI
   

"Hi tuned" T04 manifold, OM617
       

willbhere4u
Six in a row make her go!

2,507
09-03-2010, 09:54 PM #3
That HI tuned one's pretty! Is that aftermarket?

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
09-03-2010, 09:54 PM #3

That HI tuned one's pretty! Is that aftermarket?


1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

garage
Bush Taxi

893
09-04-2010, 10:33 AM #4
Where did that Hi Tuned manifold come from?

1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...
garage
09-04-2010, 10:33 AM #4

Where did that Hi Tuned manifold come from?


1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...

ForcedInduction
Banned

3,628
09-05-2010, 02:19 AM #5
eBay several years ago. I haven't been able to find any information on it and the seller didn't know anything about its source either.
ForcedInduction
09-05-2010, 02:19 AM #5

eBay several years ago. I haven't been able to find any information on it and the seller didn't know anything about its source either.

garage
Bush Taxi

893
09-05-2010, 12:27 PM #6
Thats an awesome find forced!
Seems like your always coming across the cool shit.Tongue

1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...
garage
09-05-2010, 12:27 PM #6

Thats an awesome find forced!
Seems like your always coming across the cool shit.Tongue


1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...

Syncro_G
0-60 in 29 sec

280
09-05-2010, 07:58 PM #7
Found this in
Google Books

It referres to a Dutch company, Van Zijverden Turbo B. V.

This post was last modified: 09-05-2010, 08:01 PM by Syncro_G.

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'84 G-Wagen turbodiesel
'75 240D 4-Speed

Syncro_G
09-05-2010, 07:58 PM #7

Found this in
Google Books

It referres to a Dutch company, Van Zijverden Turbo B. V.


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'84 G-Wagen turbodiesel
'75 240D 4-Speed

shredator
ridiculous snail orgy of power

56
09-07-2010, 08:34 PM #8
I'll add one Smile
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shredator
09-07-2010, 08:34 PM #8

I'll add one Smile

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garage
Bush Taxi

893
09-07-2010, 10:17 PM #9
(09-07-2010, 08:34 PM)shredator I'll add one Smile

Thats fucking gorgeous!
Exactly what i want for my 616

Any pics of it installed?
This post was last modified: 09-07-2010, 10:18 PM by garage.

1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...
garage
09-07-2010, 10:17 PM #9

(09-07-2010, 08:34 PM)shredator I'll add one Smile

Thats fucking gorgeous!
Exactly what i want for my 616

Any pics of it installed?


1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...

Captain America
Boostin' & Roostin'

2,221
09-09-2010, 09:54 AM #10
(09-07-2010, 08:34 PM)shredator I'll add one Smile

Wow, welded straight to the cast manifold .... That's interesting! Don't think I've seen that done before...


1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Captain America
09-09-2010, 09:54 AM #10

(09-07-2010, 08:34 PM)shredator I'll add one Smile

Wow, welded straight to the cast manifold .... That's interesting! Don't think I've seen that done before...



1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

ORION_theArcher
Rank: Boosted

24
09-09-2010, 10:32 AM #11
I've heard that steel to cast requires a low hydrogen welder for proper bonding. But if anyone knows of where to find another 617 turbo hi tuned manifold is pm me, I will buy one.
ORION_theArcher
09-09-2010, 10:32 AM #11

I've heard that steel to cast requires a low hydrogen welder for proper bonding. But if anyone knows of where to find another 617 turbo hi tuned manifold is pm me, I will buy one.

DeliveryValve
Superturbo

1,338
09-12-2010, 07:07 PM #12
Add from member Einar's post.
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/turb...-1731.html

615/616 aftermarket turbo manifold.
Grenrör med IHI RHB5-fläns till Mercedes 200/220/240D W123.

   


http://www.gikturbo.se/performance/avgas...cedes.html



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Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



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DeliveryValve
09-12-2010, 07:07 PM #12

Add from member Einar's post.
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/turb...-1731.html

615/616 aftermarket turbo manifold.
Grenrör med IHI RHB5-fläns till Mercedes 200/220/240D W123.

   


http://www.gikturbo.se/performance/avgas...cedes.html



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Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



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ben2go
Diesel Dumby

129
09-14-2010, 09:29 PM #13
OK.Which manifold and turbo is best for a stock 84' OM617 with only IP tweeks and a free flowing exhaust?I'm looking for direct bolt on from another common Mercedes engine.Maybe the original is best?

1990 Mercury Blue Max Cougar 3.8L with Automatic
Future OM617 Super Turbo Diesel Conversion with T56 6 Speed Manual
ben2go
09-14-2010, 09:29 PM #13

OK.Which manifold and turbo is best for a stock 84' OM617 with only IP tweeks and a free flowing exhaust?I'm looking for direct bolt on from another common Mercedes engine.Maybe the original is best?


1990 Mercury Blue Max Cougar 3.8L with Automatic
Future OM617 Super Turbo Diesel Conversion with T56 6 Speed Manual

ForcedInduction
Banned

3,628
09-15-2010, 05:08 AM #14
Intake and exhaust manifolds from a 78-79 300SD. They eliminate the EGR completely and the exhaust manifold flows more freely due to larger passages.
This post was last modified: 09-15-2010, 05:09 AM by ForcedInduction.
ForcedInduction
09-15-2010, 05:08 AM #14

Intake and exhaust manifolds from a 78-79 300SD. They eliminate the EGR completely and the exhaust manifold flows more freely due to larger passages.

ben2go
Diesel Dumby

129
09-15-2010, 07:10 AM #15
Thanks.That's good info.

1990 Mercury Blue Max Cougar 3.8L with Automatic
Future OM617 Super Turbo Diesel Conversion with T56 6 Speed Manual
ben2go
09-15-2010, 07:10 AM #15

Thanks.That's good info.


1990 Mercury Blue Max Cougar 3.8L with Automatic
Future OM617 Super Turbo Diesel Conversion with T56 6 Speed Manual

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
10-19-2010, 01:51 PM #16
om603 euro on ebay now http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mercedes-exhaust-m..._500wt_922
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1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
10-19-2010, 01:51 PM #16

om603 euro on ebay now http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mercedes-exhaust-m..._500wt_922

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1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

George3soccer
Holset

373
10-19-2010, 03:00 PM #17
looks to me like a 606 manifold, hence the triangular k turbo flange.
George3soccer
10-19-2010, 03:00 PM #17

looks to me like a 606 manifold, hence the triangular k turbo flange.

muuris
OM605

318
10-19-2010, 03:16 PM #18
(10-19-2010, 01:51 PM)winmutt om603 euro on ebay now http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mercedes-exhaust-m..._500wt_922

That's clearly OM606 manifold. Triangular turbo flange and wide exhaust valve ports.
muuris
10-19-2010, 03:16 PM #18

(10-19-2010, 01:51 PM)winmutt om603 euro on ebay now http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mercedes-exhaust-m..._500wt_922

That's clearly OM606 manifold. Triangular turbo flange and wide exhaust valve ports.

willbhere4u
Six in a row make her go!

2,507
10-19-2010, 05:35 PM #19
Interesting maybe I need to look at a om606 turbo to replace my Rajay turbo on my 240d turbo???

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
10-19-2010, 05:35 PM #19

Interesting maybe I need to look at a om606 turbo to replace my Rajay turbo on my 240d turbo???


1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

ConnClark
GT2256V

109
10-19-2010, 06:36 PM #20
(09-15-2010, 05:08 AM)ForcedInduction Intake and exhaust manifolds from a 78-79 300SD. They eliminate the EGR completely and the exhaust manifold flows more freely due to larger passages.
Are you sure that the later manifolds didn't narrow up the passages to keep the velocity up on the exhaust gasses to spool the turbo at lower rpms?
ConnClark
10-19-2010, 06:36 PM #20

(09-15-2010, 05:08 AM)ForcedInduction Intake and exhaust manifolds from a 78-79 300SD. They eliminate the EGR completely and the exhaust manifold flows more freely due to larger passages.
Are you sure that the later manifolds didn't narrow up the passages to keep the velocity up on the exhaust gasses to spool the turbo at lower rpms?

ForcedInduction
Banned

3,628
10-19-2010, 07:59 PM #21
Thats exactly what they did because the EGR steals exhaust.
ForcedInduction
10-19-2010, 07:59 PM #21

Thats exactly what they did because the EGR steals exhaust.

ConnClark
GT2256V

109
10-20-2010, 10:56 AM #22
(10-19-2010, 07:59 PM)ForcedInduction Thats exactly what they did because the EGR steals exhaust.

So would you agree a 79 manifold gives better topend power due to better flow while an 82+ manifold with the EGR capped would give better lowend power due to better spooling?
ConnClark
10-20-2010, 10:56 AM #22

(10-19-2010, 07:59 PM)ForcedInduction Thats exactly what they did because the EGR steals exhaust.

So would you agree a 79 manifold gives better topend power due to better flow while an 82+ manifold with the EGR capped would give better lowend power due to better spooling?

ForcedInduction
Banned

3,628
10-20-2010, 12:22 PM #23
No. With the EGR capped you still have the volume of the tube to fill and the turbulence created by the port.
ForcedInduction
10-20-2010, 12:22 PM #23

No. With the EGR capped you still have the volume of the tube to fill and the turbulence created by the port.

Greg-MT
Naturally-aspirated

4
10-22-2010, 05:02 PM #24
I'm new here today.

I have an original 240d TURBO KIT new, still in the box..

It is the last one the Wolf Fengler built. What's it worth, anybody interested?

Greg
www.vixenrv.com
406.587.8148
info@vienrv.com
Greg-MT
10-22-2010, 05:02 PM #24

I'm new here today.

I have an original 240d TURBO KIT new, still in the box..

It is the last one the Wolf Fengler built. What's it worth, anybody interested?

Greg
www.vixenrv.com
406.587.8148
info@vienrv.com

willbhere4u
Six in a row make her go!

2,507
10-22-2010, 08:01 PM #25
Is it like this one I put on my 240d??? please take some pics!

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
10-22-2010, 08:01 PM #25

Is it like this one I put on my 240d??? please take some pics!


1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

DeliveryValve
Superturbo

1,338
10-24-2010, 08:05 AM #26
OM602 Manifold
   
   
   


Too bad this will not fit on the 617.




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Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



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DeliveryValve
10-24-2010, 08:05 AM #26

OM602 Manifold
   
   
   


Too bad this will not fit on the 617.




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Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



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ben2go
Diesel Dumby

129
10-24-2010, 01:01 PM #27
Would heat transfer cause issues and gasket failures using a one piece flange on a OM617?By one piece, I mean all exhaust ports and intake ports on one single flange.

1990 Mercury Blue Max Cougar 3.8L with Automatic
Future OM617 Super Turbo Diesel Conversion with T56 6 Speed Manual
ben2go
10-24-2010, 01:01 PM #27

Would heat transfer cause issues and gasket failures using a one piece flange on a OM617?By one piece, I mean all exhaust ports and intake ports on one single flange.


1990 Mercury Blue Max Cougar 3.8L with Automatic
Future OM617 Super Turbo Diesel Conversion with T56 6 Speed Manual

yankneck696
Build it so strong & blow it up good !!!

395
10-24-2010, 04:01 PM #28
I can definitely see gasket issues with that.
yankneck696
10-24-2010, 04:01 PM #28

I can definitely see gasket issues with that.

ben2go
Diesel Dumby

129
10-26-2010, 09:48 PM #29
Thanks.That was my thoughts but wasn't 100% sure.

1990 Mercury Blue Max Cougar 3.8L with Automatic
Future OM617 Super Turbo Diesel Conversion with T56 6 Speed Manual
ben2go
10-26-2010, 09:48 PM #29

Thanks.That was my thoughts but wasn't 100% sure.


1990 Mercury Blue Max Cougar 3.8L with Automatic
Future OM617 Super Turbo Diesel Conversion with T56 6 Speed Manual

ForcedInduction
Banned

3,628
10-27-2010, 05:12 AM #30
Thats why Mercedes designed the larger 4-part gasket to replace the original flat metal gasket.
This post was last modified: 10-27-2010, 05:17 AM by ForcedInduction.
ForcedInduction
10-27-2010, 05:12 AM #30

Thats why Mercedes designed the larger 4-part gasket to replace the original flat metal gasket.

ben2go
Diesel Dumby

129
10-27-2010, 01:01 PM #31
What are the factory OM617 gaskets made of?Do copper or aluminum ones work well on a turbo diesel?I've only used aluminum and copper on gassers.Great success there.

1990 Mercury Blue Max Cougar 3.8L with Automatic
Future OM617 Super Turbo Diesel Conversion with T56 6 Speed Manual
ben2go
10-27-2010, 01:01 PM #31

What are the factory OM617 gaskets made of?Do copper or aluminum ones work well on a turbo diesel?I've only used aluminum and copper on gassers.Great success there.


1990 Mercury Blue Max Cougar 3.8L with Automatic
Future OM617 Super Turbo Diesel Conversion with T56 6 Speed Manual

DeliveryValve
Superturbo

1,338
01-26-2011, 07:09 PM #32
1985 617 Cali Manifold for Trap Oxidizer.

Bottom picture courtesy of dieselboy.

   




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Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



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DeliveryValve
01-26-2011, 07:09 PM #32

1985 617 Cali Manifold for Trap Oxidizer.

Bottom picture courtesy of dieselboy.

   




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Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



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DeliveryValve
Superturbo

1,338
07-01-2011, 08:44 PM #33
STT OM617 turbo manifold.

pics courtesy of forum member Merlot.


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Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



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DeliveryValve
07-01-2011, 08:44 PM #33

STT OM617 turbo manifold.

pics courtesy of forum member Merlot.


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Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



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ben2go
Diesel Dumby

129
07-01-2011, 11:38 PM #34
That's sweet mani.Are they available to buy?What vehicle(s) did they come on?Aftermarket?

1990 Mercury Blue Max Cougar 3.8L with Automatic
Future OM617 Super Turbo Diesel Conversion with T56 6 Speed Manual
ben2go
07-01-2011, 11:38 PM #34

That's sweet mani.Are they available to buy?What vehicle(s) did they come on?Aftermarket?


1990 Mercury Blue Max Cougar 3.8L with Automatic
Future OM617 Super Turbo Diesel Conversion with T56 6 Speed Manual

DeliveryValve
Superturbo

1,338
07-02-2011, 01:57 AM #35
(07-01-2011, 11:38 PM)ben2go That's sweet mani.Are they available to buy?What vehicle(s) did they come on?Aftermarket?

I don't know much about these, just from Merlot's post.
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/show...p?tid=2729


I did however see on the STT's website they sell a 300D/300GD turbo system that one can get more info on.

http://www.sttemtec.com/1/1.0.1.0/51/2/



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Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



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DeliveryValve
07-02-2011, 01:57 AM #35

(07-01-2011, 11:38 PM)ben2go That's sweet mani.Are they available to buy?What vehicle(s) did they come on?Aftermarket?

I don't know much about these, just from Merlot's post.
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/show...p?tid=2729


I did however see on the STT's website they sell a 300D/300GD turbo system that one can get more info on.

http://www.sttemtec.com/1/1.0.1.0/51/2/



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Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



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ben2go
Diesel Dumby

129
07-02-2011, 04:16 PM #36
Thanks DV.

1990 Mercury Blue Max Cougar 3.8L with Automatic
Future OM617 Super Turbo Diesel Conversion with T56 6 Speed Manual
ben2go
07-02-2011, 04:16 PM #36

Thanks DV.


1990 Mercury Blue Max Cougar 3.8L with Automatic
Future OM617 Super Turbo Diesel Conversion with T56 6 Speed Manual

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
08-11-2011, 08:06 AM #37
OM603 non egr manifold:

[Image: om603.euro.exhaust.manifold.jpg]

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
08-11-2011, 08:06 AM #37

OM603 non egr manifold:

[Image: om603.euro.exhaust.manifold.jpg]


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

lgreeley83
Mr. Rumbles

775
04-11-2012, 01:03 PM #38
[/quote]

I did however see on the STT's website they sell a 300D/300GD turbo system that one can get more info on.

http://www.sttemtec.com/1/1.0.1.0/51/2/

[/quote]

Anybody explore this route yet?

" straighten up that star on the grill, assholes."

lgreeley83
04-11-2012, 01:03 PM #38

[/quote]

I did however see on the STT's website they sell a 300D/300GD turbo system that one can get more info on.

http://www.sttemtec.com/1/1.0.1.0/51/2/

[/quote]

Anybody explore this route yet?


" straighten up that star on the grill, assholes."

yatzee
TA 0301

61
04-13-2012, 07:53 AM #39
does anyone have a part number for the non-EGR, Non-trap ox om603 manifold?

1991 350SDL, burning oil and slow
1991 500SL, yet another project car
1984 190D, swapped 3.6 m104 with a megasquirt
yatzee
04-13-2012, 07:53 AM #39

does anyone have a part number for the non-EGR, Non-trap ox om603 manifold?


1991 350SDL, burning oil and slow
1991 500SL, yet another project car
1984 190D, swapped 3.6 m104 with a megasquirt

aaa
GT2256V

913
04-13-2012, 03:17 PM #40
Two pieces. 6031402109,6031422202.
aaa
04-13-2012, 03:17 PM #40

Two pieces. 6031402109,6031422202.

JustPassinThru
W123 and W124

491
04-14-2012, 08:29 PM #41
I pulled the exhaust manifold today from a 1987 300SDL, on the way to pulling its (KKK) turbocharger. Part numbers are:

4-runner piece: 603 142 14 02
2-runner piece: 603 142 18 02

I can post pictures of it on Monday.

Gone but not forgotten: two W123 sedans and two W124 wagons.
W124 1987 300TD wagon, for sale, $1000 (some assembly required).
JustPassinThru
04-14-2012, 08:29 PM #41

I pulled the exhaust manifold today from a 1987 300SDL, on the way to pulling its (KKK) turbocharger. Part numbers are:

4-runner piece: 603 142 14 02
2-runner piece: 603 142 18 02

I can post pictures of it on Monday.


Gone but not forgotten: two W123 sedans and two W124 wagons.
W124 1987 300TD wagon, for sale, $1000 (some assembly required).

willbhere4u
Six in a row make her go!

2,507
04-15-2012, 06:48 PM #42
please do was it the type with 3 parts?

like this?
This post was last modified: 04-15-2012, 06:53 PM by willbhere4u.
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1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
04-15-2012, 06:48 PM #42

please do was it the type with 3 parts?

like this?

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1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

JustPassinThru
W123 and W124

491
04-15-2012, 07:00 PM #43
>> was it the type with the trap ox pipe?

Dunno; there was no trap ox on it. It had, and I pulled, that fat aluminum-heat-wrapped pipe with a round two-bolt flange on one end and a T3 flange on the other, looking like the arrangement on the engine that NO_SPRK is selling. I'm nibbling at the idea of making a T3-to-GT2256V adapter out of its ends, or maybe even using it as-is.

I actually did pull this car's intake manifold about a month ago, to get at the injector lines, but did not keep it, and the i.m. was gone yesterday. I *presume* that it was an EGR car, being a 1987, but...I don't have the parts at hand to look at, they are up at my mom's house 70 miles away...you know, come to think of it...I did not see an actual EGR on it yesterday. The e.m. has a bolt hole with a bolt in it, not a banjo bolt, just a blind bolt, but seemed to have no EGR inlet duct. I was more focussed on the turbo itself and it simply did not occur to me to look for an EGR. Didn't check the i.m. a month ago, either--it was simply an obstacle in the way of the injector lines. Can't go back and look now, they crushed the car as soon as I was done with it. I'm going up to my mom's house tomorrow night, will post pictures of the e.m. then.


(04-15-2012, 06:48 PM)willbhere4u please do was it the type with 3 parts?

like this?

Yes, that's it...I *think*; I had to pry on the accordion coupling between the 4-runner and 2-runner sections, in order to wiggle it loose enough from the 2-runner section --actually, I pried on both ends of it--, so I could swing the 2-runner section down (or up, I forget which) and out enough to get at the turbo bracket bolts (or nuts, I forget which) and at the bolts which hold the forward area of the cylinder head's heat shield on. Forgive the inexactness, it was a bear of a job. One step at a time, and smoke a cigarette and recover my wits after every half-dozen nuts/bolts or so. Used up half a can of PB Blaster. The swivel-head 3/8"-drive Snap-On ratchet wrench: Don't Leave Home Without It ™! Tongue
This post was last modified: 04-15-2012, 08:14 PM by JustPassinThru.

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W124 1987 300TD wagon, for sale, $1000 (some assembly required).
JustPassinThru
04-15-2012, 07:00 PM #43

>> was it the type with the trap ox pipe?

Dunno; there was no trap ox on it. It had, and I pulled, that fat aluminum-heat-wrapped pipe with a round two-bolt flange on one end and a T3 flange on the other, looking like the arrangement on the engine that NO_SPRK is selling. I'm nibbling at the idea of making a T3-to-GT2256V adapter out of its ends, or maybe even using it as-is.

I actually did pull this car's intake manifold about a month ago, to get at the injector lines, but did not keep it, and the i.m. was gone yesterday. I *presume* that it was an EGR car, being a 1987, but...I don't have the parts at hand to look at, they are up at my mom's house 70 miles away...you know, come to think of it...I did not see an actual EGR on it yesterday. The e.m. has a bolt hole with a bolt in it, not a banjo bolt, just a blind bolt, but seemed to have no EGR inlet duct. I was more focussed on the turbo itself and it simply did not occur to me to look for an EGR. Didn't check the i.m. a month ago, either--it was simply an obstacle in the way of the injector lines. Can't go back and look now, they crushed the car as soon as I was done with it. I'm going up to my mom's house tomorrow night, will post pictures of the e.m. then.


(04-15-2012, 06:48 PM)willbhere4u please do was it the type with 3 parts?

like this?

Yes, that's it...I *think*; I had to pry on the accordion coupling between the 4-runner and 2-runner sections, in order to wiggle it loose enough from the 2-runner section --actually, I pried on both ends of it--, so I could swing the 2-runner section down (or up, I forget which) and out enough to get at the turbo bracket bolts (or nuts, I forget which) and at the bolts which hold the forward area of the cylinder head's heat shield on. Forgive the inexactness, it was a bear of a job. One step at a time, and smoke a cigarette and recover my wits after every half-dozen nuts/bolts or so. Used up half a can of PB Blaster. The swivel-head 3/8"-drive Snap-On ratchet wrench: Don't Leave Home Without It ™! Tongue


Gone but not forgotten: two W123 sedans and two W124 wagons.
W124 1987 300TD wagon, for sale, $1000 (some assembly required).

DeliveryValve
Superturbo

1,338
06-30-2012, 02:31 AM #44
Been meaning to post this. Had this 617 turbo manifold sitting around, some aftermarket T4 flange type I never seen before. I pulled it from a 1979 300D with a Rajay Turbo attached to it.

Pictures compare the Non-EGR vs this T4 aftermarket. Anybody recognize it?

   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   


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This post was last modified: 06-30-2012, 02:37 AM by DeliveryValve.

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DeliveryValve
06-30-2012, 02:31 AM #44

Been meaning to post this. Had this 617 turbo manifold sitting around, some aftermarket T4 flange type I never seen before. I pulled it from a 1979 300D with a Rajay Turbo attached to it.

Pictures compare the Non-EGR vs this T4 aftermarket. Anybody recognize it?

   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   


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Hercules
GT2559V

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06-30-2012, 02:01 PM #45
Picked up one each of these a few months ago.Will need to use a angle adapter to clear intake manifold if using a more modern turbo,which is highly suggested. Seen a few of these turbos in operation,little boost until high rpms.
Going with this set up soon. I like the exhaust separation,think it would flow a little better . The intake is much shorter than the 115 intake but may be better in slowing back pulses. Possible more torque mid to higher rpms,and a little more lower than stock.
What do you think ? Have the 115 set up also. Which one, Why?
Hercules
06-30-2012, 02:01 PM #45

Picked up one each of these a few months ago.Will need to use a angle adapter to clear intake manifold if using a more modern turbo,which is highly suggested. Seen a few of these turbos in operation,little boost until high rpms.
Going with this set up soon. I like the exhaust separation,think it would flow a little better . The intake is much shorter than the 115 intake but may be better in slowing back pulses. Possible more torque mid to higher rpms,and a little more lower than stock.
What do you think ? Have the 115 set up also. Which one, Why?

DeliveryValve
Superturbo

1,338
06-30-2012, 03:39 PM #46
Really? The exact same unit? Where did you get it or what year car you pulled it from? I too think it's going to flow well. The T4 outlet is huge, thinking maybe brazing in a divider up to the reducer adapter plate for a T25 flange or to what ever VNT I might use.

willbhere4u has some info on the Manufacturer. He says it's a BSA Turbo Kit.

Here is pictures of the intake and Will's post of the manufacturer.
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/thre...l#pid42679




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DeliveryValve
06-30-2012, 03:39 PM #46

Really? The exact same unit? Where did you get it or what year car you pulled it from? I too think it's going to flow well. The T4 outlet is huge, thinking maybe brazing in a divider up to the reducer adapter plate for a T25 flange or to what ever VNT I might use.

willbhere4u has some info on the Manufacturer. He says it's a BSA Turbo Kit.

Here is pictures of the intake and Will's post of the manufacturer.
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/thre...l#pid42679




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Hercules
GT2559V

219
06-30-2012, 05:45 PM #47
Same ones. Had listed on E-bay for a few weeks,no takers,so decided to use. Areas that need some attention . Ported exhaust, opening # 2-3 wall at#1 tube entrance,try to slant wall towards exit. Also #3-4 near turbo entrance,while smoothing and directing exit area, than surface all mating areas. Divider plate good Idea!
Found these at a local pick and pull yard. On a early 300d.
Hercules
06-30-2012, 05:45 PM #47

Same ones. Had listed on E-bay for a few weeks,no takers,so decided to use. Areas that need some attention . Ported exhaust, opening # 2-3 wall at#1 tube entrance,try to slant wall towards exit. Also #3-4 near turbo entrance,while smoothing and directing exit area, than surface all mating areas. Divider plate good Idea!
Found these at a local pick and pull yard. On a early 300d.

DeliveryValve
Superturbo

1,338
07-01-2012, 01:29 AM #48
Thanks for the info. I'll look into your suggestions on porting it. Best I can do for a flow test is to spray pressurized water through the ports and see how the water flows through it.

Regarding your earlier question as to whether to use it or the 115 intake, I agree with your assessment. Good mid-range to high end with this intake. Better than stock for low end, but not better then the 115. But I would love to see the actual bench flow numbers on this intake. I would guess the 115 would have the better combined all RPM range flow because of the long runners and gradual bends. The BSA intake has an almost 90 degree bend into the cylinder head, which I think would hinder flow. I do believe it is still far better then the stock intake manifold.

I don't think with the BSA exhaust manifold, the turbo would clear the 115 intake. Then again, I could be wrong. In the end between the two, I think I'm eventually will go with this BSA intake.


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DeliveryValve
07-01-2012, 01:29 AM #48

Thanks for the info. I'll look into your suggestions on porting it. Best I can do for a flow test is to spray pressurized water through the ports and see how the water flows through it.

Regarding your earlier question as to whether to use it or the 115 intake, I agree with your assessment. Good mid-range to high end with this intake. Better than stock for low end, but not better then the 115. But I would love to see the actual bench flow numbers on this intake. I would guess the 115 would have the better combined all RPM range flow because of the long runners and gradual bends. The BSA intake has an almost 90 degree bend into the cylinder head, which I think would hinder flow. I do believe it is still far better then the stock intake manifold.

I don't think with the BSA exhaust manifold, the turbo would clear the 115 intake. Then again, I could be wrong. In the end between the two, I think I'm eventually will go with this BSA intake.


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Cole
It's as easy as 1 - 2 - 3!

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08-24-2012, 01:54 PM #49

I did however see on the STT's website they sell a 300D/300GD turbo system that one can get more info on.

http://www.sttemtec.com/1/1.0.1.0/51/2/

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Anybody explore this route yet?
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I emailed them, I'll let you know if they respond

1982 300TD - Wilber
1985 300TD - Ol' Blue (parts car)
1984 300D - Black Beauty (parts car)
various OM617 and 617A parts engine

"You have to realize that this is a DIESEL and you have a gasser for starters - what works for you will not necessarily apply to me. I for instance could run 35 pounds of boost and probably more and your engine would be a block with melted pistons. "

-Rudolf Diesel
Cole
08-24-2012, 01:54 PM #49


I did however see on the STT's website they sell a 300D/300GD turbo system that one can get more info on.

http://www.sttemtec.com/1/1.0.1.0/51/2/

[/quote]

Anybody explore this route yet?
[/quote]

I emailed them, I'll let you know if they respond


1982 300TD - Wilber
1985 300TD - Ol' Blue (parts car)
1984 300D - Black Beauty (parts car)
various OM617 and 617A parts engine

"You have to realize that this is a DIESEL and you have a gasser for starters - what works for you will not necessarily apply to me. I for instance could run 35 pounds of boost and probably more and your engine would be a block with melted pistons. "

-Rudolf Diesel

DeliveryValve
Superturbo

1,338
10-06-2012, 05:59 PM #50
Got some great 603/606 exhaust manifold information from this thread.

http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/thre...l#pid44936


606 Custom Header from KKD Motorsport
http://kkdmotorsport.com/kauppa.php?t=12...1270679050

   

603 Custom Header from KDD Motorsport
http://kkdmotorsport.com/kauppa.php?t=12...1270679050

   

601 Custom Header from KDD Motorsport
http://kkdmotorsport.com/kauppa.php?t=12...1270679050

   

Turbo Banditen M103, M104, OM603, OM606 custom exhaust manifold
http://www.turbobanditen.se/shop/?artnr=401&cat_id=122

   


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DeliveryValve
10-06-2012, 05:59 PM #50

Got some great 603/606 exhaust manifold information from this thread.

http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/thre...l#pid44936


606 Custom Header from KKD Motorsport
http://kkdmotorsport.com/kauppa.php?t=12...1270679050

   

603 Custom Header from KDD Motorsport
http://kkdmotorsport.com/kauppa.php?t=12...1270679050

   

601 Custom Header from KDD Motorsport
http://kkdmotorsport.com/kauppa.php?t=12...1270679050

   

Turbo Banditen M103, M104, OM603, OM606 custom exhaust manifold
http://www.turbobanditen.se/shop/?artnr=401&cat_id=122

   


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