Holset HX35 Install info on om603

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02-08-2011, 05:09 AM #158

(02-07-2011, 04:07 PM)jonbobshinigin So what would you recommend for something to handle Full Load adjustment that will also fit under the wheel well area?

Small and high flow is a difficult job to fill. Pretty much all that fits the bill are A/W cores. A TDI intercooler would be a better compromise than a Saab since its twice as thick.

The ultimate choice for a small intercooler would be something like this Ford Sierra radiator+Intercooler combo.

Quote:I'll bet the Volvo intercooler is one of the best ever sold in a stock turbocharged passenger car, considering it's massive size, but I don't see how you'd fit it in any Mercedes.

Um, have you ever measured the pressure drop across one? Even on a stock car? Considering the above statement, I'd say no.
The drop on a stock 9psi engine can easily be upwards of 1psi, very restrictive. A decent core shouldn't see more than 0.25psi drop at maximum flow and boost.
Volvo's intercooler is little more than a water radiator with different tanks clamped on. It relies on very narrow passages to get air contact instead of large tubes with turbulators as with a true intercooler.

Quote:When comparing flowrates keep in mind that the OM603 only revs to ~4600rpm (I think that's right, can anyone confirm that?) whereas those "small" gasoline 4 cylinders rev to ~7000rpm actually flowing higher air volumes than the OM603 at comparable boost levels.

That is false. Its rare for a stock g@sser to revv that high.
An OM603.96 revvs to 4500rpm with 12psi boost= 300cfm, 336cfm if intercooled
A Saab 900 turbo revvs to 5500rpm with 6psi boost = 221cfm
A Volvo 240 Turbo revvs to 6000rpm with 9psi boost= 296cfm

So in either case, neither flows as much as a 603 under intercooled or non conditions.

Read through here:
http://autospeed.com/cms/A_1931/article.html
http://autospeed.com/cms/A_1946/article.html

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02-08-2011, 05:09 AM #158

(02-07-2011, 04:07 PM)jonbobshinigin So what would you recommend for something to handle Full Load adjustment that will also fit under the wheel well area?

Small and high flow is a difficult job to fill. Pretty much all that fits the bill are A/W cores. A TDI intercooler would be a better compromise than a Saab since its twice as thick.

The ultimate choice for a small intercooler would be something like this Ford Sierra radiator+Intercooler combo.

Quote:I'll bet the Volvo intercooler is one of the best ever sold in a stock turbocharged passenger car, considering it's massive size, but I don't see how you'd fit it in any Mercedes.

Um, have you ever measured the pressure drop across one? Even on a stock car? Considering the above statement, I'd say no.
The drop on a stock 9psi engine can easily be upwards of 1psi, very restrictive. A decent core shouldn't see more than 0.25psi drop at maximum flow and boost.
Volvo's intercooler is little more than a water radiator with different tanks clamped on. It relies on very narrow passages to get air contact instead of large tubes with turbulators as with a true intercooler.

Quote:When comparing flowrates keep in mind that the OM603 only revs to ~4600rpm (I think that's right, can anyone confirm that?) whereas those "small" gasoline 4 cylinders rev to ~7000rpm actually flowing higher air volumes than the OM603 at comparable boost levels.

That is false. Its rare for a stock g@sser to revv that high.
An OM603.96 revvs to 4500rpm with 12psi boost= 300cfm, 336cfm if intercooled
A Saab 900 turbo revvs to 5500rpm with 6psi boost = 221cfm
A Volvo 240 Turbo revvs to 6000rpm with 9psi boost= 296cfm

So in either case, neither flows as much as a 603 under intercooled or non conditions.

Read through here:
http://autospeed.com/cms/A_1931/article.html
http://autospeed.com/cms/A_1946/article.html

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