Holset HX35 Install info on om603
Holset HX35 Install info on om603
02-07-2011, 04:17 PM
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(02-07-2011, 04:01 PM)ForcedInduction Volvos are the worst though.
I'll bet the Volvo intercooler is one of the best ever sold in a stock turbocharged passenger car, considering it's massive size, but I don't see how you'd fit it in any Mercedes. My gas Volvo turbo is making about 220 horsepower on the stock intercooler without any pinging on crap California pump gas, and there's people on Turbobricks.com making a lot more power than that with the Volvo IC on gasoline engines where intake air temps are far more critical.Look the Volvo intercooler flows better than the Saab one:
http://www.gusmahon.org/html/cooler%20test.htm
Efficiency test of stock Volvo intercooler compared to a massive custom Spearco one:
http://personal.linkline.com/dbarton/Spe...ntercooler
I'd say dropping intake temps from 175C (448 kelvin) to 56C (329 kelvin) (on a stock Volvo T3 pushing 10.9 psi into a 2.1L engine) is "pretty good" and represents roughly a 36% increase in air mass entering the engine at the same boost level. Sure, there's better intercoolers out there but there aren't really any intercoolers this good that can *easily* be fit to a W124 without cutting the chassis up.
When comparing flowrates keep in mind that the OM603 only revs to ~4600rpm (I think that's right, can anyone confirm that?) whereas those "small" gasoline 4 cylinders rev to ~7000rpm actually flowing higher air volumes than the OM603 at comparable boost levels.
I think the air to water intercooler is a nice elegant solution, but I'd be too afraid of it developing a leak and hydrolocking the engine for a daily driver...
This post was last modified: 02-07-2011, 05:15 PM by casioqv.
-Tyler
1984 Volvo 760GLE Turbo Diesel D24T/M46
1986 Isuzu Trooper Turbo Diesel
No mercedes (for now)
(02-07-2011, 04:01 PM)ForcedInduction Volvos are the worst though.
I'll bet the Volvo intercooler is one of the best ever sold in a stock turbocharged passenger car, considering it's massive size, but I don't see how you'd fit it in any Mercedes. My gas Volvo turbo is making about 220 horsepower on the stock intercooler without any pinging on crap California pump gas, and there's people on Turbobricks.com making a lot more power than that with the Volvo IC on gasoline engines where intake air temps are far more critical.Look the Volvo intercooler flows better than the Saab one:
http://www.gusmahon.org/html/cooler%20test.htm
Efficiency test of stock Volvo intercooler compared to a massive custom Spearco one:
http://personal.linkline.com/dbarton/Spe...ntercooler
I'd say dropping intake temps from 175C (448 kelvin) to 56C (329 kelvin) (on a stock Volvo T3 pushing 10.9 psi into a 2.1L engine) is "pretty good" and represents roughly a 36% increase in air mass entering the engine at the same boost level. Sure, there's better intercoolers out there but there aren't really any intercoolers this good that can *easily* be fit to a W124 without cutting the chassis up.
When comparing flowrates keep in mind that the OM603 only revs to ~4600rpm (I think that's right, can anyone confirm that?) whereas those "small" gasoline 4 cylinders rev to ~7000rpm actually flowing higher air volumes than the OM603 at comparable boost levels.
I think the air to water intercooler is a nice elegant solution, but I'd be too afraid of it developing a leak and hydrolocking the engine for a daily driver...
-Tyler
1984 Volvo 760GLE Turbo Diesel D24T/M46
1986 Isuzu Trooper Turbo Diesel
No mercedes (for now)
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