Jeep Liberty Turbo to T3 Adaptor
Jeep Liberty Turbo to T3 Adaptor
04-25-2008, 12:34 PM
#52
bgkast The head fit the diameter fine, I did not get to test the depth or insert the bolt for the pictures because I need to chase my manifolds threads in that location with a tap.* winmutt taps foot patiently. I already got the 8mm-10mm stud but I think it is too short. I got an allen bolt head for the blind one.
Cant wait!!!!
My 8 to 10 stud is marginal in length too. Is there some sort of high temp loctite I can use on the studs?
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
bgkast The head fit the diameter fine, I did not get to test the depth or insert the bolt for the pictures because I need to chase my manifolds threads in that location with a tap.* winmutt taps foot patiently. I already got the 8mm-10mm stud but I think it is too short. I got an allen bolt head for the blind one.
Cant wait!!!!
My 8 to 10 stud is marginal in length too. Is there some sort of high temp loctite I can use on the studs?
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
04-29-2008, 11:07 AM
#57
bgkast It took about 3 hours. It would have been faster if I started out roughing the hole with my angle grinder, instead of trying a dremel for an hour at first. Once the hole is roughed out the dremel works great.Mine came in (wife didnt tell me of course). Was the 10->8mm stud long enough?
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
bgkast It took about 3 hours. It would have been faster if I started out roughing the hole with my angle grinder, instead of trying a dremel for an hour at first. Once the hole is roughed out the dremel works great.Mine came in (wife didnt tell me of course). Was the 10->8mm stud long enough?
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
04-29-2008, 04:29 PM
#58
It will work, but I would like it to be longer on the 10MM side. Any ideas on high-temp loc-tite? We will need to use something to keep that 8 to 10 MM stud in place with only 3/8 of threads screwed into the exhaust manifold. I would also like to use something to prevent exhaust leaks around the studs where they thread into the adaptor.
11-04-2008, 03:37 PM
#59
While I'm waiting on some gasket material, I can't get the manifold studs out. Are they pressed in or threaded in? I don't want to crack the manifold trying to pull them out.
Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
11-04-2008, 03:37 PM #59I've made up an adapter using Bryan's dimensions(Friendly hint:It's easier for machinists if you dimension everything outwards from the center of the block)
While I'm waiting on some gasket material, I can't get the manifold studs out. Are they pressed in or threaded in? I don't want to crack the manifold trying to pull them out.
Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
11-04-2008, 04:36 PM
#60
Simpler=Better I've made up an adapter using Bryan's dimensions(Friendly hint:It's easier for machinists if you dimension everything outwards from the center of the block)Threaded. I had to put the studs in a vise and turn the manifold.
While I'm waiting on some gasket material, I can't get the manifold studs out. Are they pressed in or threaded in? I don't want to crack the manifold trying to pull them out.
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
Simpler=Better I've made up an adapter using Bryan's dimensions(Friendly hint:It's easier for machinists if you dimension everything outwards from the center of the block)Threaded. I had to put the studs in a vise and turn the manifold.
While I'm waiting on some gasket material, I can't get the manifold studs out. Are they pressed in or threaded in? I don't want to crack the manifold trying to pull them out.
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
11-04-2008, 06:50 PM
#61
ForcedInduction
11-04-2008, 06:50 PM
#61
Yes, after 20+ years of heat cycling and corrosion they can be a bear to get out. I had to use triple jam nuts to get the studs out of mine without damage.
11-04-2008, 08:14 PM
#62
GREASY_BEAST
11-04-2008, 08:14 PM #62ditto on how big a pain in the ass those studs are to get out.. Try lots of PB Blaster or Liquid Wrench, heat, maybe give them a good whack (gently, don't crack anything) with a hammer, and use a multitude of jam nuts.. good luck! I don't know what pitch they are, but 3/8" studs from autozone just sorta threaded right in for my HX30 swap.. lol
11-04-2008, 09:26 PM
#63
Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
11-04-2008, 09:26 PM #63I'll be making a 8-10 stud for it
Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
:mrgreen:
11-05-2008, 10:58 PM
#65
EDIT: I've attached a drawing with dimensions from the center of the T3 stud holes. Yeah I was kinda bored :roll:
![[Image: adapteriq7.th.jpg]](http://img131.imageshack.us/my.php?image=adapteriq7.jpg)
![[Image: thpix.gif]](http://img131.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif)
Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
11-05-2008, 10:58 PM #65It's all good. If I get bored at work one of these days I'll post "formal" drawings of all the parts
EDIT: I've attached a drawing with dimensions from the center of the T3 stud holes. Yeah I was kinda bored :roll:
Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
09-24-2009, 01:49 AM
#69
I do already have a turbo, but it has end play so I'm searching for another.
This post was last modified: 09-24-2009, 01:50 AM by ForcedInduction.
ForcedInduction
09-24-2009, 01:49 AM
#69
Any updates? I'm looking into a Liberty turbo for my 240 instead of bolting the stock T3 back on.
I do already have a turbo, but it has end play so I'm searching for another.
09-24-2009, 10:25 AM
#71
(09-24-2009, 01:49 AM)ForcedInduction Any updates? I'm looking into a Liberty turbo for my 240 instead of bolting the stock T3 back on.
I do already have a turbo, but it has end play so I'm searching for another.
can these newer VNT turbos be rebuilt, or is it cheaper, easier, and smarter to find a good used one?
(09-24-2009, 01:49 AM)ForcedInduction Any updates? I'm looking into a Liberty turbo for my 240 instead of bolting the stock T3 back on.
I do already have a turbo, but it has end play so I'm searching for another.
can these newer VNT turbos be rebuilt, or is it cheaper, easier, and smarter to find a good used one?
09-24-2009, 12:36 PM
#72
ForcedInduction
09-24-2009, 12:36 PM
#72
The cost of a used turbo is usually less than a (genuine, not Chinese clone junk) rebuild kit.
09-25-2009, 10:26 AM
#74
(09-25-2009, 03:53 AM)Kiwibacon Did I mention I have solidworks and a whole collection of turbo adapter designs already?Could you make a T3 to 3" V-band?
It's pretty quick to crank out another if you guys provide some measurements.
Also, will this adapter plate work for the Sprinter turbos?
John Robbins
'05 E320 CDI - 118k - Faaaaaast!!
'87 300TD - 317k - Cracked head... but an OM606 is on the way!
'79 300SD - 295k - Bad engine = project car!
(09-25-2009, 03:53 AM)Kiwibacon Did I mention I have solidworks and a whole collection of turbo adapter designs already?Could you make a T3 to 3" V-band?
It's pretty quick to crank out another if you guys provide some measurements.
Also, will this adapter plate work for the Sprinter turbos?
John Robbins
'05 E320 CDI - 118k - Faaaaaast!!
'87 300TD - 317k - Cracked head... but an OM606 is on the way!
'79 300SD - 295k - Bad engine = project car!
09-25-2009, 05:18 PM
#75
(09-25-2009, 10:26 AM)Tymbrymi(09-25-2009, 03:53 AM)Kiwibacon Did I mention I have solidworks and a whole collection of turbo adapter designs already?Could you make a T3 to 3" V-band?
It's pretty quick to crank out another if you guys provide some measurements.
Also, will this adapter plate work for the Sprinter turbos?
Which end of the T3?
I have a sprinter turbo, the flange is indeed a mongrel. I've got a T3-sprinter turbo adapter but it runs through about 120 degrees. I've yet to install this turbo.
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Image(s)(09-25-2009, 10:26 AM)Tymbrymi(09-25-2009, 03:53 AM)Kiwibacon Did I mention I have solidworks and a whole collection of turbo adapter designs already?Could you make a T3 to 3" V-band?
It's pretty quick to crank out another if you guys provide some measurements.
Also, will this adapter plate work for the Sprinter turbos?
Which end of the T3?
I have a sprinter turbo, the flange is indeed a mongrel. I've got a T3-sprinter turbo adapter but it runs through about 120 degrees. I've yet to install this turbo.
Attached Files
Image(s)
09-27-2009, 03:49 PM
#77
This post was last modified: 09-27-2009, 03:49 PM by ForcedInduction.
ForcedInduction
09-27-2009, 03:49 PM
#77
They are limited by compressor surge. Without an intercooler, 15psi before 3500rpm and 23psi past 3500rpm.
09-27-2009, 04:41 PM
#78
(09-27-2009, 03:49 PM)ForcedInduction They are limited by compressor surge. Without an intercooler, 15psi before 3500rpm and 23psi past 3500rpm.
Are those your experiences at alititude or predicted off that map?
My GT2256V has a smaller trim than that map shows, which will give it higher pressure ratios without surge.
(09-27-2009, 03:49 PM)ForcedInduction They are limited by compressor surge. Without an intercooler, 15psi before 3500rpm and 23psi past 3500rpm.
Are those your experiences at alititude or predicted off that map?
My GT2256V has a smaller trim than that map shows, which will give it higher pressure ratios without surge.
09-28-2009, 06:28 AM
#79
so are the Sprinter and Jeep turbo's the same unit??
I only have to worry about being 240 foot as opposed to you guys with some really high spots.
I have an intercooler that is 700x300x75, ( was planning Super turbo on a OM605, but reading more about the VNT/VGT these seem to offer greater driveabilty as opposed to an HX35) would this be a little large, and would the turbo benifit from an external wastegate??
Sorry to hijack this thread
Thanks for that,
so are the Sprinter and Jeep turbo's the same unit??
I only have to worry about being 240 foot as opposed to you guys with some really high spots.
I have an intercooler that is 700x300x75, ( was planning Super turbo on a OM605, but reading more about the VNT/VGT these seem to offer greater driveabilty as opposed to an HX35) would this be a little large, and would the turbo benifit from an external wastegate??
Sorry to hijack this thread
09-28-2009, 03:07 PM
#81
(09-27-2009, 04:41 PM)Kiwibacon My GT2256V has a smaller trim than that map shows
Yes, the Sprinter turbos that are electrically actuated have a slightly larger inducer.
This post was last modified: 09-28-2009, 03:07 PM by ForcedInduction.
ForcedInduction
09-28-2009, 03:07 PM
#81
(09-27-2009, 04:41 PM)Kiwibacon My GT2256V has a smaller trim than that map shows
Yes, the Sprinter turbos that are electrically actuated have a slightly larger inducer.
09-29-2009, 09:12 AM
#82
(09-25-2009, 05:18 PM)Kiwibacon Which end of the T3?
Going from the T3 on the exhaust manifold to a v-band for the 6.0L Powerstroke turbo.
Nice work on the GT22 adapter!
John Robbins
'05 E320 CDI - 118k - Faaaaaast!!
'87 300TD - 317k - Cracked head... but an OM606 is on the way!
'79 300SD - 295k - Bad engine = project car!
(09-25-2009, 05:18 PM)Kiwibacon Which end of the T3?
Going from the T3 on the exhaust manifold to a v-band for the 6.0L Powerstroke turbo.
Nice work on the GT22 adapter!
John Robbins
'05 E320 CDI - 118k - Faaaaaast!!
'87 300TD - 317k - Cracked head... but an OM606 is on the way!
'79 300SD - 295k - Bad engine = project car!
09-29-2009, 02:03 PM
#83
(09-29-2009, 09:12 AM)Tymbrymi(09-25-2009, 05:18 PM)Kiwibacon Which end of the T3?
Going from the T3 on the exhaust manifold to a v-band for the 6.0L Powerstroke turbo.
Nice work on the GT22 adapter!
Thanks.
Get me the measurements for the V band flange and I'll see what I can do.
10-02-2009, 04:05 PM
#86
ForcedInduction
10-02-2009, 04:05 PM
#86
Well crap, I've been laid off so the Liberty turbo plan is dead. I'll just throw the stock T3 back on the 240 and be done with it.
10-05-2009, 11:32 AM
#87
(09-29-2009, 02:03 PM)Kiwibacon Get me the measurements for the V band flange and I'll see what I can do.
The adapter would need to make a 45 degree angle upwards in order for the turbo to fit (I think)... Coming out from the manifold a bit is cool too. Thanks!
(10-02-2009, 04:05 PM)ForcedInduction Well crap, I've been laid off so the Liberty turbo plan is dead.
That sucks! Hope you can find something quickly...
John Robbins
'05 E320 CDI - 118k - Faaaaaast!!
'87 300TD - 317k - Cracked head... but an OM606 is on the way!
'79 300SD - 295k - Bad engine = project car!
(09-29-2009, 02:03 PM)Kiwibacon Get me the measurements for the V band flange and I'll see what I can do.
The adapter would need to make a 45 degree angle upwards in order for the turbo to fit (I think)... Coming out from the manifold a bit is cool too. Thanks!
(10-02-2009, 04:05 PM)ForcedInduction Well crap, I've been laid off so the Liberty turbo plan is dead.
That sucks! Hope you can find something quickly...
John Robbins
'05 E320 CDI - 118k - Faaaaaast!!
'87 300TD - 317k - Cracked head... but an OM606 is on the way!
'79 300SD - 295k - Bad engine = project car!
10-05-2009, 03:41 PM
#88
(10-05-2009, 11:32 AM)Tymbrymi The adapter would need to make a 45 degree angle upwards in order for the turbo to fit (I think)... Coming out from the manifold a bit is cool too. Thanks!
I've got the T3 flange and V band flange modelled. Can you give a side on sketch of the orientation you want between them?
(10-05-2009, 11:32 AM)Tymbrymi The adapter would need to make a 45 degree angle upwards in order for the turbo to fit (I think)... Coming out from the manifold a bit is cool too. Thanks!
I've got the T3 flange and V band flange modelled. Can you give a side on sketch of the orientation you want between them?
![[Image: gt2256v-exhaust-flange.jpg]](http://jason.pepas.com/images/gt2256v-exhaust-flange.jpg)
01-22-2010, 01:17 PM
#90
(01-22-2010, 01:07 PM)cell has anyone worked on an adapter flange for the electronically actuated 2256v? or has anyone found dimensions for it anywhere?I started working on one and got as far as having a CAD file for it, never found a place to get it made for a reasonable price tho. I know theres a few other people that have/are working on one...
This post was last modified: 01-22-2010, 01:17 PM by 300SD81.
Ich liebe meine Autos!
1981 Mercedes-Benz 300SD | 156K Miles | 2nd Owner | EGR Disabled [Removal Pending] | ALDA Removed | Straight Pipes | GT2256V??? | Laser Interceptor | Engine swap over summer, hopefully with GT2256V attached...
1981 Mercedes-Benz 300SD | Odo Stopped at 160K (at least 50K more) | EGR Disabled | ALDA All The Way Out | Straight pipes | FM-870 Remote Start Alarm System | B100 Biodiesel | AC Fixed x2 | Trunk crushed in
| Retired to garage.Excessive speeding? It ain't excessive till I redline!
(01-22-2010, 01:07 PM)cell has anyone worked on an adapter flange for the electronically actuated 2256v? or has anyone found dimensions for it anywhere?I started working on one and got as far as having a CAD file for it, never found a place to get it made for a reasonable price tho. I know theres a few other people that have/are working on one...
Ich liebe meine Autos!
1981 Mercedes-Benz 300SD | 156K Miles | 2nd Owner | EGR Disabled [Removal Pending] | ALDA Removed | Straight Pipes | GT2256V??? | Laser Interceptor | Engine swap over summer, hopefully with GT2256V attached...
1981 Mercedes-Benz 300SD | Odo Stopped at 160K (at least 50K more) | EGR Disabled | ALDA All The Way Out | Straight pipes | FM-870 Remote Start Alarm System | B100 Biodiesel | AC Fixed x2 | Trunk crushed in
| Retired to garage.Excessive speeding? It ain't excessive till I redline!
01-22-2010, 01:37 PM
#92
(01-22-2010, 01:25 PM)cell ahh, I didn't see you had a 2256 thread! nice.
are you interested in sharing that CAD file?
I'll see if I can find it. I made it in the software from emachineshop.com so I don't think its in a standard format.
Ich liebe meine Autos!
1981 Mercedes-Benz 300SD | 156K Miles | 2nd Owner | EGR Disabled [Removal Pending] | ALDA Removed | Straight Pipes | GT2256V??? | Laser Interceptor | Engine swap over summer, hopefully with GT2256V attached...
1981 Mercedes-Benz 300SD | Odo Stopped at 160K (at least 50K more) | EGR Disabled | ALDA All The Way Out | Straight pipes | FM-870 Remote Start Alarm System | B100 Biodiesel | AC Fixed x2 | Trunk crushed in
| Retired to garage.Excessive speeding? It ain't excessive till I redline!
(01-22-2010, 01:25 PM)cell ahh, I didn't see you had a 2256 thread! nice.
are you interested in sharing that CAD file?
I'll see if I can find it. I made it in the software from emachineshop.com so I don't think its in a standard format.
Ich liebe meine Autos!
1981 Mercedes-Benz 300SD | 156K Miles | 2nd Owner | EGR Disabled [Removal Pending] | ALDA Removed | Straight Pipes | GT2256V??? | Laser Interceptor | Engine swap over summer, hopefully with GT2256V attached...
1981 Mercedes-Benz 300SD | Odo Stopped at 160K (at least 50K more) | EGR Disabled | ALDA All The Way Out | Straight pipes | FM-870 Remote Start Alarm System | B100 Biodiesel | AC Fixed x2 | Trunk crushed in
| Retired to garage.Excessive speeding? It ain't excessive till I redline!
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