OM617 Performance

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07-27-2010, 07:30 PM #10

(07-27-2010, 05:48 PM)Captain America Why are you complaining?

THIS IS NOT A RACE TEAM!

What do you think the race teams started as? Race teams? NO! They started as guys like us trying things out and collaborating together and against each other. The guys on here don't generally have the money to put into all the data collection and standardization your talking about. I sure as hell don't! I just browse around and get ideas based on what is discussed and use my head to figure out what will best suit my goals for the car

Hey man if you got the time and money, be my guest!

CaptAmerica,

You're misunderstanding--I'm not complaining. I simply asked a question about if there were known high quality&performing component combinations (X turbo specs, X i/c, X injection pump, X size of downpipe/exhaust, etc) for those w/ the 617A like me who are looking, and you provided the "shit in a box" analogy. You answered my question--it doesn't seem like there are any proven combos. And that's ok if that's ok with you.

The race team analogy was to point out that race teams do more than just "trying things out and collaborating"---even starter race teams(privateer or professional) have to collect data to be successful(and quickly move forward and improve) or else they won't. For example, after adding a larger turbo, are the EGT's too high--if so, what's the cause and/or what could help reduce them?...etc.

Perhaps I'm the only one who feels this way (although I doubt it looking at ForcedInduction's posts and others who seem educated about gathering data), but if you're not gathering any data (boost, EGT's, dyno figures, etc--save for the dyno time, it's not THAT expensive to gather that data) and then comparing it with others who have VERY similar setups to yours(in order to see where you might be able to make an improvement), then it's all apples and oranges and will make progress a bit more difficult.

FWIW, for those who are buying new parts(I realize that many on here are buying used/wrecking yard components, but even that could be more standardized), standardization wouldn't take any more money than not; the first guy buys a Garrett turbo w/ X trim/AR/etc, a-w i/c from X company, etc, then tests it and gathers data. The second guy(who wants to improve on what the first guy did) buys the same i/c but goes with a different A/R on the turbo and tests his. They compare EGT/boost/power figures....and on and on and on. Eventually the "sweet spot" for the money will be found. Again, it comes down to making single changes with comparable setups.

Sorry to rock the boat--keep paddling.

<beer>

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