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JB3
Superturbo

1,795
05-14-2010, 09:36 AM #1
who else believes that this needs to happen?

   

1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

JB3
05-14-2010, 09:36 AM #1

who else believes that this needs to happen?

   


1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

MB TECH
GT2559V

188
05-14-2010, 10:26 AM #2
You need to start this ASAP

1979 450SEL 6.9 - stock

1960 220SE
111 tube chassis car/undergoing full restoration. Body work in progress. Merging with a 1996 S500 (119 engine, 722.6 trans, and both subframes)

2005 S55 AMG - stock

1999 SLK230 Kompressor - stock

2006 SLK55 AMG - stock

MB TECH
05-14-2010, 10:26 AM #2

You need to start this ASAP


1979 450SEL 6.9 - stock

1960 220SE
111 tube chassis car/undergoing full restoration. Body work in progress. Merging with a 1996 S500 (119 engine, 722.6 trans, and both subframes)

2005 S55 AMG - stock

1999 SLK230 Kompressor - stock

2006 SLK55 AMG - stock

Kozuka
I'm_Badass

334
05-14-2010, 11:16 AM #3
Po-Po Ram Bar, Me Likey. Big Grin
Kozuka
05-14-2010, 11:16 AM #3

Po-Po Ram Bar, Me Likey. Big Grin

JB3
Superturbo

1,795
05-14-2010, 03:18 PM #4
yup, going on the list to be added to the 240

Maybe a little over the top. Big Grin

this is a bull bar off of a 90 F150, it breaks down into 4 pieces, so I might bolt it back together using thinner cross beams and make it narrower so my fogs are not interfered with.

The idea it to protect the grill and radiator, and provide a lower mount for an eventual skid plate to proceed rearwards.
(ok ok, i lied, the idea it to be able to hit a shopping cart at 65 and see how far it goes)

   
   
   
This post was last modified: 05-14-2010, 03:19 PM by JB3.

1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

JB3
05-14-2010, 03:18 PM #4

yup, going on the list to be added to the 240

Maybe a little over the top. Big Grin

this is a bull bar off of a 90 F150, it breaks down into 4 pieces, so I might bolt it back together using thinner cross beams and make it narrower so my fogs are not interfered with.

The idea it to protect the grill and radiator, and provide a lower mount for an eventual skid plate to proceed rearwards.
(ok ok, i lied, the idea it to be able to hit a shopping cart at 65 and see how far it goes)

   
   
   


1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

JB3
Superturbo

1,795
05-14-2010, 05:01 PM #5
thats more what im thinking-

still on the fence about adding a third bar below, making it a square cross piece to bolt the license plate to, or just trimming the tabs short and using the stock plate mount

opinions?

   
   
   

1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

JB3
05-14-2010, 05:01 PM #5

thats more what im thinking-

still on the fence about adding a third bar below, making it a square cross piece to bolt the license plate to, or just trimming the tabs short and using the stock plate mount

opinions?

   
   
   


1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

ForcedInduction
Banned

3,628
05-14-2010, 05:15 PM #6
This is over the top!
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ForcedInduction
05-14-2010, 05:15 PM #6

This is over the top!

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JB3
Superturbo

1,795
05-14-2010, 05:18 PM #7
LOL "let me tell you about my grandchildren"

I need that plate. You are right, this puts mine to shame

1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

JB3
05-14-2010, 05:18 PM #7

LOL "let me tell you about my grandchildren"

I need that plate. You are right, this puts mine to shame


1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

Kozuka
I'm_Badass

334
05-14-2010, 06:33 PM #8
Thats not over-the-top that's the most awesome W123 evar!

My main concern about hitting a 'shopping cart' would be it flipping over the bar and taking out the hood and the wind shield, a shopping cart is pretty light and a 3000+ lbs car going 65mph is alot of force. Adding any weight to thus said shopping cart?
This post was last modified: 05-14-2010, 06:35 PM by Kozuka.
Kozuka
05-14-2010, 06:33 PM #8

Thats not over-the-top that's the most awesome W123 evar!

My main concern about hitting a 'shopping cart' would be it flipping over the bar and taking out the hood and the wind shield, a shopping cart is pretty light and a 3000+ lbs car going 65mph is alot of force. Adding any weight to thus said shopping cart?

JB3
Superturbo

1,795
05-14-2010, 07:47 PM #9
(05-14-2010, 06:33 PM)Kozuka Thats not over-the-top that's the most awesome W123 evar!

My main concern about hitting a 'shopping cart' would be it flipping over the bar and taking out the hood and the wind shield, a shopping cart is pretty light and a 3000+ lbs car going 65mph is alot of force. Adding any weight to thus said shopping cart?

maybe an ex GF or two. Smile

Actually, this mod is to prevent this (stolen from benzworld)-

   

the OEM bumpers are too low for a lot of modern car bumpers, and it just slips over and does damage to the radiator and whatnot. I want to prevent this kind of thing from easily happening since I will be driving the car daily in heavy traffic. Even if its my fault, id rather do more damage to their car and be able to drive mine away

1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

JB3
05-14-2010, 07:47 PM #9

(05-14-2010, 06:33 PM)Kozuka Thats not over-the-top that's the most awesome W123 evar!

My main concern about hitting a 'shopping cart' would be it flipping over the bar and taking out the hood and the wind shield, a shopping cart is pretty light and a 3000+ lbs car going 65mph is alot of force. Adding any weight to thus said shopping cart?

maybe an ex GF or two. Smile

Actually, this mod is to prevent this (stolen from benzworld)-

   

the OEM bumpers are too low for a lot of modern car bumpers, and it just slips over and does damage to the radiator and whatnot. I want to prevent this kind of thing from easily happening since I will be driving the car daily in heavy traffic. Even if its my fault, id rather do more damage to their car and be able to drive mine away


1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

Kozuka
I'm_Badass

334
05-14-2010, 07:53 PM #10
My 16v has damage kinda like that from a parking lot. I have silly thoughts about ramming cars out of my way in some kind of emergency situation haha.

One time I was hanging out at the local grocery store parking lot where a friend of mine works and I saw this you lady in a beat up ford probe strait up ram this mini-van pulling into a parking spot reverse pull in the spot and acted like nothing happened.

I park far away from anyone else.
Kozuka
05-14-2010, 07:53 PM #10

My 16v has damage kinda like that from a parking lot. I have silly thoughts about ramming cars out of my way in some kind of emergency situation haha.

One time I was hanging out at the local grocery store parking lot where a friend of mine works and I saw this you lady in a beat up ford probe strait up ram this mini-van pulling into a parking spot reverse pull in the spot and acted like nothing happened.

I park far away from anyone else.

DeliveryValve
Superturbo

1,338
05-15-2010, 10:10 AM #11
(05-14-2010, 07:47 PM)dropnosky .....
the OEM bumpers are too low for a lot of modern car bumpers, and it just slips over and does damage to the radiator and whatnot. I want to prevent this kind of thing from easily happening since I will be driving the car daily in heavy traffic. Even if its my fault, id rather do more damage to their car and be able to drive mine away


How about putting a lift kit to raise the bumpers.
           

Or you can have both the lift kit and the push bumpers. Big Grin

I think the cross bar should be a thickness that in the middle of the original and the test tubing.




.

Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



.
DeliveryValve
05-15-2010, 10:10 AM #11

(05-14-2010, 07:47 PM)dropnosky .....
the OEM bumpers are too low for a lot of modern car bumpers, and it just slips over and does damage to the radiator and whatnot. I want to prevent this kind of thing from easily happening since I will be driving the car daily in heavy traffic. Even if its my fault, id rather do more damage to their car and be able to drive mine away


How about putting a lift kit to raise the bumpers.
           

Or you can have both the lift kit and the push bumpers. Big Grin

I think the cross bar should be a thickness that in the middle of the original and the test tubing.




.


Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



.

JB3
Superturbo

1,795
05-15-2010, 11:40 AM #12
more like this? I think you are right.

   

I want that lift kit and those splash guards!

1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

JB3
05-15-2010, 11:40 AM #12

more like this? I think you are right.

   

I want that lift kit and those splash guards!


1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

Nick
Big diesel's need lovin' too

38
05-16-2010, 12:42 AM #13
i love the lift kit! how does one do such a thing?

and i've always wanted to throw a rambar on my 123! awesome project. i like the thicker crossbars it came with though.

1983 300CD "Spike" Stock, as of now.
Nick
05-16-2010, 12:42 AM #13

i love the lift kit! how does one do such a thing?

and i've always wanted to throw a rambar on my 123! awesome project. i like the thicker crossbars it came with though.


1983 300CD "Spike" Stock, as of now.

JB3
Superturbo

1,795
05-18-2010, 10:48 PM #14
Yeah, I think I was on the wrong track going with smaller bars, the entire thing was I think just too wide, and there was probably no need to go with a smaller diameter bar.

After reviewing the pics on the thread, I am now shortening the thicker crossmembers to see how they look. Great benefit to them is that they come with the fog light mounts on them already.
This post was last modified: 05-18-2010, 10:48 PM by JB3.

1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

JB3
05-18-2010, 10:48 PM #14

Yeah, I think I was on the wrong track going with smaller bars, the entire thing was I think just too wide, and there was probably no need to go with a smaller diameter bar.

After reviewing the pics on the thread, I am now shortening the thicker crossmembers to see how they look. Great benefit to them is that they come with the fog light mounts on them already.


1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

garage
Bush Taxi

893
05-19-2010, 10:42 AM #15
How do yall think that CD is raised the way it is?
Do you think the thickest coil spring shims would achieve that or somthing close?
Those mudflaps kick ass, they really add to the appeal of that car.

1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...
garage
05-19-2010, 10:42 AM #15

How do yall think that CD is raised the way it is?
Do you think the thickest coil spring shims would achieve that or somthing close?
Those mudflaps kick ass, they really add to the appeal of that car.


1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...

DeliveryValve
Superturbo

1,338
05-19-2010, 12:42 PM #16
(05-19-2010, 10:42 AM)garage How do yall think that CD is raised the way it is?
Do you think the thickest coil spring shims would achieve that or somthing close?
Those mudflaps kick ass, they really add to the appeal of that car.


That car was for sale not too long ago and I pirated the pictures. I believed it was claimed to have a factory lift kit.

The factory use a certain spring type for the different options/accessories that is installed in the car. If you have the correct springs you will get some lift with thicker spring pads.

Not that I ever seen one of these before, I imagine the factory lift kit involves taller & heavier springs and shocks.



.

Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



.
DeliveryValve
05-19-2010, 12:42 PM #16

(05-19-2010, 10:42 AM)garage How do yall think that CD is raised the way it is?
Do you think the thickest coil spring shims would achieve that or somthing close?
Those mudflaps kick ass, they really add to the appeal of that car.


That car was for sale not too long ago and I pirated the pictures. I believed it was claimed to have a factory lift kit.

The factory use a certain spring type for the different options/accessories that is installed in the car. If you have the correct springs you will get some lift with thicker spring pads.

Not that I ever seen one of these before, I imagine the factory lift kit involves taller & heavier springs and shocks.



.


Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



.

garage
Bush Taxi

893
05-19-2010, 03:21 PM #17
(05-19-2010, 12:42 PM)DeliveryValve
(05-19-2010, 10:42 AM)garage How do yall think that CD is raised the way it is?
Do you think the thickest coil spring shims would achieve that or somthing close?
Those mudflaps kick ass, they really add to the appeal of that car.


That car was for sale not too long ago and I pirated the pictures. I believed it was claimed to have a factory lift kit.

The factory use a certain spring type for the different options/accessories that is installed in the car. If you have the correct springs you will get some lift with thicker spring pads.

Not that I ever seen one of these before, I imagine the factory lift kit involves taller & heavier springs and shocks.



.

Oh so it was claimed to be a factory kit?

It makes sense that these cars would have a lift option, with there being so many of them in other/3rd world countries and such.
I wonder

1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...
garage
05-19-2010, 03:21 PM #17

(05-19-2010, 12:42 PM)DeliveryValve
(05-19-2010, 10:42 AM)garage How do yall think that CD is raised the way it is?
Do you think the thickest coil spring shims would achieve that or somthing close?
Those mudflaps kick ass, they really add to the appeal of that car.


That car was for sale not too long ago and I pirated the pictures. I believed it was claimed to have a factory lift kit.

The factory use a certain spring type for the different options/accessories that is installed in the car. If you have the correct springs you will get some lift with thicker spring pads.

Not that I ever seen one of these before, I imagine the factory lift kit involves taller & heavier springs and shocks.



.

Oh so it was claimed to be a factory kit?

It makes sense that these cars would have a lift option, with there being so many of them in other/3rd world countries and such.
I wonder


1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...

ForcedInduction
Banned

3,628
05-19-2010, 05:05 PM #18
Here is every spring they have. For a company that likes to share parts cross-platform, they sure have plenty of options!
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ForcedInduction
05-19-2010, 05:05 PM #18

Here is every spring they have. For a company that likes to share parts cross-platform, they sure have plenty of options!

Attached Files
.pdf
32-220.pdf
Size: 640.11 KB / Downloads: 602
.pdf
32-240.pdf
Size: 191.04 KB / Downloads: 684

GREASY_BEAST
Holset

411
05-20-2010, 05:25 PM #19
That lift kit will be more than just springs. In the front you might be able to get the alignment dialed in with just taller springs, but not the rear! At the least it would involve some sort of extensions on the sub-frame and trailing arm mounts.
GREASY_BEAST
05-20-2010, 05:25 PM #19

That lift kit will be more than just springs. In the front you might be able to get the alignment dialed in with just taller springs, but not the rear! At the least it would involve some sort of extensions on the sub-frame and trailing arm mounts.

JB3
Superturbo

1,795
05-21-2010, 02:42 PM #20
shorter with original bars was the way to go! I love it, time to paint and properly mount

   
   

1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

JB3
05-21-2010, 02:42 PM #20

shorter with original bars was the way to go! I love it, time to paint and properly mount

   
   


1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
05-26-2010, 09:18 AM #21
You guys are silly. I would be more concerned with the shocks collapsing and the cow bar doing more damage!

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
05-26-2010, 09:18 AM #21

You guys are silly. I would be more concerned with the shocks collapsing and the cow bar doing more damage!


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

JB3
Superturbo

1,795
05-26-2010, 03:40 PM #22
(05-26-2010, 09:18 AM)winmutt You guys are silly. I would be more concerned with the shocks collapsing and the cow bar doing more damage!

Ill just have to test it out then. Big Grin

actually, I was surfing around some police forums, and the consensus seems to be that the police style ones are really useful for pushing stuff off the road and protecting vitals, but actually add to the body damage of a PT maneuver instead of limiting it. pretty interesting discussions given the the big price tags of the actual police issue stuff.
Seems a lot of police forces go back and forth buying them or not. I was reading one thing where once sherrifs department requires them to fill out an accident report any time they TOUCH another vehicle with the cruiser, including pushing a car off the road. For that reason, those cop's don't even touch any cars with the push bumper unless they can avoid it.

I am not bound by these pesky PD bureaucratic rules however Smile
This post was last modified: 05-26-2010, 03:41 PM by JB3.

1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

JB3
05-26-2010, 03:40 PM #22

(05-26-2010, 09:18 AM)winmutt You guys are silly. I would be more concerned with the shocks collapsing and the cow bar doing more damage!

Ill just have to test it out then. Big Grin

actually, I was surfing around some police forums, and the consensus seems to be that the police style ones are really useful for pushing stuff off the road and protecting vitals, but actually add to the body damage of a PT maneuver instead of limiting it. pretty interesting discussions given the the big price tags of the actual police issue stuff.
Seems a lot of police forces go back and forth buying them or not. I was reading one thing where once sherrifs department requires them to fill out an accident report any time they TOUCH another vehicle with the cruiser, including pushing a car off the road. For that reason, those cop's don't even touch any cars with the push bumper unless they can avoid it.

I am not bound by these pesky PD bureaucratic rules however Smile


1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

mike-81-240d
more like mike-84-300d now

427
07-15-2010, 02:55 AM #23
(05-14-2010, 03:18 PM)dropnosky yup, going on the list to be added to the 240

Ok were did you get that roof rack? Blush Smile Cool Wink Dodgy

1981 Mercedes 300TD Lowered 4 speed manual Holset HX30 
mike-81-240d
07-15-2010, 02:55 AM #23

(05-14-2010, 03:18 PM)dropnosky yup, going on the list to be added to the 240

Ok were did you get that roof rack? Blush Smile Cool Wink Dodgy


1981 Mercedes 300TD Lowered 4 speed manual Holset HX30 

JB3
Superturbo

1,795
07-15-2010, 08:29 AM #24
(07-15-2010, 02:55 AM)mike-81-240d Ok were did you get that roof rack? Blush Smile Cool Wink Dodgy

discountramps.com

Its this product- http://www.discountramps.com/gutter-mount-van-rack.htm

They are super fast and easy to deal with, and the rack was cheap, but it does not really fit the car, and is really really really cheap and shitty. I would hesitate to try and put one duffel up there the metal is so thin. Does look cool though, old looking. They claim that it fits minivans, but I honestly doubt it. I had to bend the heck out of the gutter mounts to actually get it to sit on the roof, which compromised any strength is may have had.

Some of their other products may work though.
This post was last modified: 07-15-2010, 08:31 AM by JB3.

1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

JB3
07-15-2010, 08:29 AM #24

(07-15-2010, 02:55 AM)mike-81-240d Ok were did you get that roof rack? Blush Smile Cool Wink Dodgy

discountramps.com

Its this product- http://www.discountramps.com/gutter-mount-van-rack.htm

They are super fast and easy to deal with, and the rack was cheap, but it does not really fit the car, and is really really really cheap and shitty. I would hesitate to try and put one duffel up there the metal is so thin. Does look cool though, old looking. They claim that it fits minivans, but I honestly doubt it. I had to bend the heck out of the gutter mounts to actually get it to sit on the roof, which compromised any strength is may have had.

Some of their other products may work though.


1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

mike-81-240d
more like mike-84-300d now

427
07-15-2010, 11:13 AM #25
(07-15-2010, 08:29 AM)dropnosky
(07-15-2010, 02:55 AM)mike-81-240d Ok were did you get that roof rack? Blush Smile Cool Wink Dodgy

discountramps.com

Its this product- http://www.discountramps.com/gutter-mount-van-rack.htm

Ahh I remember that one from a benzwo*ld discussion, too bad it doesn't fit. Looks great, but I'm trying to haul 2 kyaks cheaply and craigslist has jack shit. Angry

1981 Mercedes 300TD Lowered 4 speed manual Holset HX30 
mike-81-240d
07-15-2010, 11:13 AM #25

(07-15-2010, 08:29 AM)dropnosky
(07-15-2010, 02:55 AM)mike-81-240d Ok were did you get that roof rack? Blush Smile Cool Wink Dodgy

discountramps.com

Its this product- http://www.discountramps.com/gutter-mount-van-rack.htm

Ahh I remember that one from a benzwo*ld discussion, too bad it doesn't fit. Looks great, but I'm trying to haul 2 kyaks cheaply and craigslist has jack shit. Angry


1981 Mercedes 300TD Lowered 4 speed manual Holset HX30 

JB3
Superturbo

1,795
07-15-2010, 11:38 AM #26
ended up scoring some yakima towers for 30 bucks of craigslist instead, like everyone on that other thread told me to do in the first place. Big Grin Something will probably come up cheaply in your area I bet.
I liked the way it looked also, but I think a couple of kayaks would have bent that rack right in half! I was able to bend the gutter mounts with one hand, it was extremely fragile. I think the side stamped rails were easily thinner than 20 gauge. The gutter mounts were closer to 18 gauge I think.

Waste of 50 bucks with shipping.

1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

JB3
07-15-2010, 11:38 AM #26

ended up scoring some yakima towers for 30 bucks of craigslist instead, like everyone on that other thread told me to do in the first place. Big Grin Something will probably come up cheaply in your area I bet.
I liked the way it looked also, but I think a couple of kayaks would have bent that rack right in half! I was able to bend the gutter mounts with one hand, it was extremely fragile. I think the side stamped rails were easily thinner than 20 gauge. The gutter mounts were closer to 18 gauge I think.

Waste of 50 bucks with shipping.


1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

mike-81-240d
more like mike-84-300d now

427
07-15-2010, 10:37 PM #27
(07-15-2010, 11:38 AM)dropnosky ended up scoring some yakima towers for 30 bucks of craigslist instead,...

Waste of 50 bucks with shipping.

Pics of your new setup?

Sounds like a buyer bewareBig Grin

1981 Mercedes 300TD Lowered 4 speed manual Holset HX30 
mike-81-240d
07-15-2010, 10:37 PM #27

(07-15-2010, 11:38 AM)dropnosky ended up scoring some yakima towers for 30 bucks of craigslist instead,...

Waste of 50 bucks with shipping.

Pics of your new setup?

Sounds like a buyer bewareBig Grin


1981 Mercedes 300TD Lowered 4 speed manual Holset HX30 

mike-81-240d
more like mike-84-300d now

427
07-16-2010, 12:08 AM #28
Just found this...

http://www.a1-autoracks.com/proline-gmr1...racks.html
garage
Bush Taxi

893
07-18-2010, 06:22 PM #29
(07-16-2010, 12:08 AM)mike-81-240d Just found this...

http://www.a1-autoracks.com/proline-gmr1...racks.html

I just decided to go ahead and order that rack, it came out to be $62 with shipping.
So we will find out how it fits!

1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...
garage
07-18-2010, 06:22 PM #29

(07-16-2010, 12:08 AM)mike-81-240d Just found this...

http://www.a1-autoracks.com/proline-gmr1...racks.html

I just decided to go ahead and order that rack, it came out to be $62 with shipping.
So we will find out how it fits!


1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
07-19-2010, 08:12 AM #30
Be careful it have enough clearance to get over the plastic trim on the rain gutter.

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
07-19-2010, 08:12 AM #30

Be careful it have enough clearance to get over the plastic trim on the rain gutter.


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

garage
Bush Taxi

893
07-19-2010, 12:42 PM #31
(07-19-2010, 08:12 AM)winmutt Be careful it have enough clearance to get over the plastic trim on the rain gutter.

The plastic trim on my gutters is no longer there, so we will see.

1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...
garage
07-19-2010, 12:42 PM #31

(07-19-2010, 08:12 AM)winmutt Be careful it have enough clearance to get over the plastic trim on the rain gutter.

The plastic trim on my gutters is no longer there, so we will see.


1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...

mike-81-240d
more like mike-84-300d now

427
07-19-2010, 03:17 PM #32
I ordered it Friday evening. Smile

Craigslist didn't have anything. Sad

1981 Mercedes 300TD Lowered 4 speed manual Holset HX30 
mike-81-240d
07-19-2010, 03:17 PM #32

I ordered it Friday evening. Smile

Craigslist didn't have anything. Sad


1981 Mercedes 300TD Lowered 4 speed manual Holset HX30 

garage
Bush Taxi

893
07-19-2010, 05:43 PM #33
(07-19-2010, 03:17 PM)mike-81-240d I ordered it Friday evening. Smile

Craigslist didn't have anything. Sad

Hey mike what kind of kayaks are you hauling around?
I just recently picked up a 14ft aqua terra kayak, made by perception.
Its really a blast, i try to do alot of fishing out of it too.

1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...
garage
07-19-2010, 05:43 PM #33

(07-19-2010, 03:17 PM)mike-81-240d I ordered it Friday evening. Smile

Craigslist didn't have anything. Sad

Hey mike what kind of kayaks are you hauling around?
I just recently picked up a 14ft aqua terra kayak, made by perception.
Its really a blast, i try to do alot of fishing out of it too.


1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...

mike-81-240d
more like mike-84-300d now

427
07-21-2010, 01:37 AM #34
(07-19-2010, 05:43 PM)garage
(07-19-2010, 03:17 PM)mike-81-240d I ordered it Friday evening. Smile

Craigslist didn't have anything. Sad

Hey mike what kind of kayaks are you hauling around?
I just recently picked up a 14ft aqua terra kayak, made by perception.
Its really a blast, i try to do alot of fishing out of it too.

I have 2 10 foot wilderness systems, and I'm thinking about a 12.5 foot perception I found on craigslist.

1981 Mercedes 300TD Lowered 4 speed manual Holset HX30 
mike-81-240d
07-21-2010, 01:37 AM #34

(07-19-2010, 05:43 PM)garage
(07-19-2010, 03:17 PM)mike-81-240d I ordered it Friday evening. Smile

Craigslist didn't have anything. Sad

Hey mike what kind of kayaks are you hauling around?
I just recently picked up a 14ft aqua terra kayak, made by perception.
Its really a blast, i try to do alot of fishing out of it too.

I have 2 10 foot wilderness systems, and I'm thinking about a 12.5 foot perception I found on craigslist.


1981 Mercedes 300TD Lowered 4 speed manual Holset HX30 

JB3
Superturbo

1,795
07-21-2010, 07:01 AM #35
(07-15-2010, 10:37 PM)mike-81-240d Pics of your new setup?

Sounds like a buyer bewareBig Grin

   

Waffling on getting the fairing, but boy, that sure does make a difference in sound with these racks! Friggin hate paying 60 bucks for a piece of plastic though! Maybe generic fairings are available?

Push bumper update: So, shortened cross bars, and actually had the bars turned to have a perfectly smooth surface instead of a bead of weld. Unfortunately, machine shop guy doing me a favor incorrectly secured the bar with the brackets for the lights, and it flew out of the lathe and damaged one end. They fixed it, but cut material off of the end to do so, and now the brackets are not centered. I have to cut one off, and have it rewelded the correct distance from the end, but I will be using a different shop for that since these guys are not exceptional at aluminum welding. Their skill is about the same as my skill, which is poor.
This post was last modified: 07-21-2010, 07:06 AM by JB3.

1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

JB3
07-21-2010, 07:01 AM #35

(07-15-2010, 10:37 PM)mike-81-240d Pics of your new setup?

Sounds like a buyer bewareBig Grin

   

Waffling on getting the fairing, but boy, that sure does make a difference in sound with these racks! Friggin hate paying 60 bucks for a piece of plastic though! Maybe generic fairings are available?

Push bumper update: So, shortened cross bars, and actually had the bars turned to have a perfectly smooth surface instead of a bead of weld. Unfortunately, machine shop guy doing me a favor incorrectly secured the bar with the brackets for the lights, and it flew out of the lathe and damaged one end. They fixed it, but cut material off of the end to do so, and now the brackets are not centered. I have to cut one off, and have it rewelded the correct distance from the end, but I will be using a different shop for that since these guys are not exceptional at aluminum welding. Their skill is about the same as my skill, which is poor.


1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

garage
Bush Taxi

893
07-24-2010, 12:37 AM #36
New rack fits great!

1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...
garage
07-24-2010, 12:37 AM #36

New rack fits great!


1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...

JB3
Superturbo

1,795
07-24-2010, 09:03 AM #37
(07-24-2010, 12:37 AM)garage New rack fits great!

Pics!

1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

JB3
07-24-2010, 09:03 AM #37

(07-24-2010, 12:37 AM)garage New rack fits great!

Pics!


1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

garage
Bush Taxi

893
07-24-2010, 09:50 AM #38
(07-24-2010, 09:03 AM)dropnosky
(07-24-2010, 12:37 AM)garage New rack fits great!

Pics!

Im not too sure how to post pictures on here, theres some pictures of it in the offroading the D's thread that Captain America posted for me.

1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...
garage
07-24-2010, 09:50 AM #38

(07-24-2010, 09:03 AM)dropnosky
(07-24-2010, 12:37 AM)garage New rack fits great!

Pics!

Im not too sure how to post pictures on here, theres some pictures of it in the offroading the D's thread that Captain America posted for me.


1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...

JB3
Superturbo

1,795
07-24-2010, 10:05 AM #39
(07-24-2010, 09:50 AM)garage
(07-24-2010, 09:03 AM)dropnosky
(07-24-2010, 12:37 AM)garage New rack fits great!

Pics!

Im not too sure how to post pictures on here, theres some pictures of it in the offroading the D's thread that Captain America posted for me.

Its super easy, I just resize them on my computer to 640x480 through the windows stock microsoft picture manager which just comes on the computer so they are not too big, then in the thread making page, just hit the "browse" button under the attachments window, go to the file, click it, it will fill the browse window, then hit "add attachment", and it will show up underneath the new attachment window. Then you can hit "insert into post", and it will put the picture wherever the cursor is in the typing window.
If you don't hit "insert into post", the picture will show up underneath whatever you wrote when you post the reply.

I pirated your pic from captains thread-

   

heres mine for comparison again-
   

The one you have is much lower profile than the yakima stuff! It looks great, hows the noise? The yakima rack is super noisy until you get a fairing.
This post was last modified: 07-24-2010, 10:06 AM by JB3.

1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

JB3
07-24-2010, 10:05 AM #39

(07-24-2010, 09:50 AM)garage
(07-24-2010, 09:03 AM)dropnosky
(07-24-2010, 12:37 AM)garage New rack fits great!

Pics!

Im not too sure how to post pictures on here, theres some pictures of it in the offroading the D's thread that Captain America posted for me.

Its super easy, I just resize them on my computer to 640x480 through the windows stock microsoft picture manager which just comes on the computer so they are not too big, then in the thread making page, just hit the "browse" button under the attachments window, go to the file, click it, it will fill the browse window, then hit "add attachment", and it will show up underneath the new attachment window. Then you can hit "insert into post", and it will put the picture wherever the cursor is in the typing window.
If you don't hit "insert into post", the picture will show up underneath whatever you wrote when you post the reply.

I pirated your pic from captains thread-

   

heres mine for comparison again-
   

The one you have is much lower profile than the yakima stuff! It looks great, hows the noise? The yakima rack is super noisy until you get a fairing.


1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

garage
Bush Taxi

893
07-24-2010, 10:16 AM #40
Right on Dropnosky! thanks for the tutorial, seems easy enough.

Yeah it is definetly more low profile than that yakima one on yours, however, i think i would prefer round bars over square bars. So far no noise, i havnt had her on the hwy yet, but i will find out soon enough.

1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...
garage
07-24-2010, 10:16 AM #40

Right on Dropnosky! thanks for the tutorial, seems easy enough.

Yeah it is definetly more low profile than that yakima one on yours, however, i think i would prefer round bars over square bars. So far no noise, i havnt had her on the hwy yet, but i will find out soon enough.


1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...

JB3
Superturbo

1,795
07-24-2010, 10:21 AM #41
oh man, if your rack is quiet, im going to be pissed. Big Grin

you got the whole kit for 62, shipped?

I bought used towers for 30, and bought new bars for 60 (which don't come with end caps at that price for petes sake). So I paid 90 bucks, half of which are used components, and still have to deal with the noise problem, which yakima has a solution to for another 60 bucks.
This post was last modified: 07-24-2010, 10:22 AM by JB3.

1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

JB3
07-24-2010, 10:21 AM #41

oh man, if your rack is quiet, im going to be pissed. Big Grin

you got the whole kit for 62, shipped?

I bought used towers for 30, and bought new bars for 60 (which don't come with end caps at that price for petes sake). So I paid 90 bucks, half of which are used components, and still have to deal with the noise problem, which yakima has a solution to for another 60 bucks.


1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

garage
Bush Taxi

893
07-24-2010, 10:58 AM #42
Well i couldnt hear anything with the sunroof open or closed, but then again i have a loud ass straight pipe exiting underneath the passenger seat, so it might have just drowned it out.
But going 65 with the clutch in, i did not hear any whistling or anything.

Yeah the whole kit shipped was 62bucks, and it was pretty much assembled. It seems like its decent quality.

1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...
garage
07-24-2010, 10:58 AM #42

Well i couldnt hear anything with the sunroof open or closed, but then again i have a loud ass straight pipe exiting underneath the passenger seat, so it might have just drowned it out.
But going 65 with the clutch in, i did not hear any whistling or anything.

Yeah the whole kit shipped was 62bucks, and it was pretty much assembled. It seems like its decent quality.


1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...

JB3
Superturbo

1,795
07-24-2010, 12:20 PM #43
(07-24-2010, 10:58 AM)garage Well i couldnt hear anything with the sunroof open or closed, but then again i have a loud ass straight pipe exiting underneath the passenger seat, so it might have just drowned it out.
But going 65 with the clutch in, i did not hear any whistling or anything.

Angry mine starts making noise at 30. Maybe I will order one of these proline deals later and move the yakima to my wagon if it ever runs. High enough that it should go over the stock bars.

1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

JB3
07-24-2010, 12:20 PM #43

(07-24-2010, 10:58 AM)garage Well i couldnt hear anything with the sunroof open or closed, but then again i have a loud ass straight pipe exiting underneath the passenger seat, so it might have just drowned it out.
But going 65 with the clutch in, i did not hear any whistling or anything.

Angry mine starts making noise at 30. Maybe I will order one of these proline deals later and move the yakima to my wagon if it ever runs. High enough that it should go over the stock bars.


1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

mike-81-240d
more like mike-84-300d now

427
07-26-2010, 01:26 PM #44
Oh boy I just checked UPS...


Tracking Detail

Your package is on time with a scheduled delivery date of 07/26/2010.

Tracking Number:1Z224*7W03421&636$ Status: In Transit Scheduled Delivery Date:07/26/2010
This post was last modified: 07-26-2010, 01:29 PM by mike-81-240d.

1981 Mercedes 300TD Lowered 4 speed manual Holset HX30 
mike-81-240d
07-26-2010, 01:26 PM #44

Oh boy I just checked UPS...


Tracking Detail

Your package is on time with a scheduled delivery date of 07/26/2010.

Tracking Number:1Z224*7W03421&636$ Status: In Transit Scheduled Delivery Date:07/26/2010


1981 Mercedes 300TD Lowered 4 speed manual Holset HX30 

JB3
Superturbo

1,795
08-27-2010, 12:47 PM #45
well, it turned out pretty nice I think. I only had to make two tiny angle iron brackets for the top, and the brackets this thing uses to bolt to the F-150 bumper actually worked perfectly below, almost as if it was made for it.

   
   
   

Now I just have to find a skid plate, maybe off a toyota truck to continue underneath and adapt it to protect the oil pan and radiator. It can probably continue from right where the push bumper ends.

1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

JB3
08-27-2010, 12:47 PM #45

well, it turned out pretty nice I think. I only had to make two tiny angle iron brackets for the top, and the brackets this thing uses to bolt to the F-150 bumper actually worked perfectly below, almost as if it was made for it.

   
   
   

Now I just have to find a skid plate, maybe off a toyota truck to continue underneath and adapt it to protect the oil pan and radiator. It can probably continue from right where the push bumper ends.


1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

Captain America
Boostin' & Roostin'

2,221
08-27-2010, 02:08 PM #46
(08-27-2010, 12:47 PM)dropnosky well, it turned out pretty nice I think. I only had to make two tiny angle iron brackets for the top, and the brackets this thing uses to bolt to the F-150 bumper actually worked perfectly below, almost as if it was made for it.

Looks Great!

(08-27-2010, 12:47 PM)dropnosky Now I just have to find a skid plate, maybe off a toyota truck to continue underneath and adapt it to protect the oil pan and radiator. It can probably continue from right where the push bumper ends.

Yes! I want one two! hehe ... too! Here is my thought... Make a plate just a tad wider than the oil pan and run it straight back from the bumper to under the pan, bolt right there at cross member behind engine oil pan, continue under trans and bolt up to trans cross member, continue just past rear diff with a lip at the end to protect diff housing. Yes it will be heavy but EVERYTHING will be protected... Also make some steering linkage protection as well cuz that shit seems like it will snap if you look at it the wrong way Tongue


1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Captain America
08-27-2010, 02:08 PM #46

(08-27-2010, 12:47 PM)dropnosky well, it turned out pretty nice I think. I only had to make two tiny angle iron brackets for the top, and the brackets this thing uses to bolt to the F-150 bumper actually worked perfectly below, almost as if it was made for it.

Looks Great!

(08-27-2010, 12:47 PM)dropnosky Now I just have to find a skid plate, maybe off a toyota truck to continue underneath and adapt it to protect the oil pan and radiator. It can probably continue from right where the push bumper ends.

Yes! I want one two! hehe ... too! Here is my thought... Make a plate just a tad wider than the oil pan and run it straight back from the bumper to under the pan, bolt right there at cross member behind engine oil pan, continue under trans and bolt up to trans cross member, continue just past rear diff with a lip at the end to protect diff housing. Yes it will be heavy but EVERYTHING will be protected... Also make some steering linkage protection as well cuz that shit seems like it will snap if you look at it the wrong way Tongue



1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

stan
Holset

328
08-28-2010, 02:58 PM #47
i am really happy to have found a crowd that shares my view on the w123 as a rally / expedition / etc platform. <3 you guys lol
stan
08-28-2010, 02:58 PM #47

i am really happy to have found a crowd that shares my view on the w123 as a rally / expedition / etc platform. <3 you guys lol

BriZZell Dride
B100 Dreams

10
09-04-2010, 10:59 PM #48
(05-14-2010, 05:15 PM)ForcedInduction This is over the top!

The top needs to be raised or it just looks like it dont fit.

Whats on the top our left of the car?
BriZZell Dride
09-04-2010, 10:59 PM #48

(05-14-2010, 05:15 PM)ForcedInduction This is over the top!

The top needs to be raised or it just looks like it dont fit.

Whats on the top our left of the car?

garage
Bush Taxi

893
09-14-2010, 09:40 AM #49
So have you hit any unsuspecting trash cans or traffic cones with that new beast of a bumper yet?Cool

1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...
garage
09-14-2010, 09:40 AM #49

So have you hit any unsuspecting trash cans or traffic cones with that new beast of a bumper yet?Cool


1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...

Captain America
Boostin' & Roostin'

2,221
09-14-2010, 06:19 PM #50
The first thing I would go for is those F'ing toll lane pole things!

Take 'em all out in one shot..

   


1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Captain America
09-14-2010, 06:19 PM #50

The first thing I would go for is those F'ing toll lane pole things!

Take 'em all out in one shot..

   



1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

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