5 cylinder M Super pump testing, fitted with M75 Floyd 7.5mm elements
5 cylinder M Super pump testing, fitted with M75 Floyd 7.5mm elements
11-03-2010, 03:31 PM
#102
(11-03-2010, 03:26 PM)kmaser I heard from him last week and he told me that this week the M pump should be ready for testing on his car.SWEEEEET! Can't wait to hear some results! Is this on an OM603, btw? Any numbers on the fuel quantity delivered (i.e., 100cc, etc)?
Dave M.
Boise, ID, USA
1997 E420 - 149kmi (Bugeyes)
1994 E420 - 136kmi (Blondie)
1994 E500 - 116kmi (Q-ship)
1992 500E - 179kmi (Mach 5)
1987 300D - 330kmi (Sportline Stage 2)
Click here for my website!
(11-03-2010, 03:26 PM)kmaser I heard from him last week and he told me that this week the M pump should be ready for testing on his car.SWEEEEET! Can't wait to hear some results! Is this on an OM603, btw? Any numbers on the fuel quantity delivered (i.e., 100cc, etc)?
Dave M.
Boise, ID, USA
1997 E420 - 149kmi (Bugeyes)
1994 E420 - 136kmi (Blondie)
1994 E500 - 116kmi (Q-ship)
1992 500E - 179kmi (Mach 5)
1987 300D - 330kmi (Sportline Stage 2)
Click here for my website!
11-08-2010, 12:42 PM
#104
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
Someone else complained about non responsiveness from derv tuning. Who ever he talks to next it would be swell if he would clear things up...
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
11-08-2010, 04:49 PM
#105
It would be nice if he posted or emailed everybody an update ever 2 weeks or so.
Although I have not exactly been kept in the loop on my pump and elements, which I figured from the beginning would be a very long turnaround I always get a response via email but it does take 4-5 days sometimes. I'm not concerned at this point but am still hoping to have my pump by the end of the year.
It would be nice if he posted or emailed everybody an update ever 2 weeks or so.
11-16-2010, 09:56 PM
#108
(11-15-2010, 03:42 PM)kmaser I emailed David right after this post to see where he was at with the pump and still have not heard anything back, I am wondering how many people have pumps / elements with David and are getting regular updates ?
I just looked and the last time he logged on was back in Sept. !
I have an MW pump awaiting 6.5mm elements. The elements are from Tomnik, and are as far as I know already in DervTunings possession. I went into this project with the understanding that this was going to be a "side job" type of deal, and it was probably going to take a while. I'd love to know where my pump is at in line with others here, but really don't feel like I can complain too loudly about the time frame. Let me explain my reasoning before putting on my flame-suit... He is doing this on the side, and at a fairly lower cost than any injection pump shop around that I know of. Certainly much lower than a Myna pump would cost. Also, I know from Rudolphs M-pump that he seems to be doing a damn good job of setting up the pump and making sure its tits before sending it back to the customer. Plus, he knows what we're after power / drivability-wise and isn't just a shop throwing in random elements. I was a tech for about 10 years; I've done side work before, it always takes longer to do a job on the side, than it does if it's a regular customer in the shop. Now, having said that, and letting everyone know I'm a patient type of person, I would like to have a rough ETA on my pump, and some kind of idea of whos pump is where in line. Either way, I'm just waiting patiently for my turn to install the goodness in The Flyin Pumpkin.
82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.
84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine!
(11-15-2010, 03:42 PM)kmaser I emailed David right after this post to see where he was at with the pump and still have not heard anything back, I am wondering how many people have pumps / elements with David and are getting regular updates ?
I just looked and the last time he logged on was back in Sept. !
I have an MW pump awaiting 6.5mm elements. The elements are from Tomnik, and are as far as I know already in DervTunings possession. I went into this project with the understanding that this was going to be a "side job" type of deal, and it was probably going to take a while. I'd love to know where my pump is at in line with others here, but really don't feel like I can complain too loudly about the time frame. Let me explain my reasoning before putting on my flame-suit... He is doing this on the side, and at a fairly lower cost than any injection pump shop around that I know of. Certainly much lower than a Myna pump would cost. Also, I know from Rudolphs M-pump that he seems to be doing a damn good job of setting up the pump and making sure its tits before sending it back to the customer. Plus, he knows what we're after power / drivability-wise and isn't just a shop throwing in random elements. I was a tech for about 10 years; I've done side work before, it always takes longer to do a job on the side, than it does if it's a regular customer in the shop. Now, having said that, and letting everyone know I'm a patient type of person, I would like to have a rough ETA on my pump, and some kind of idea of whos pump is where in line. Either way, I'm just waiting patiently for my turn to install the goodness in The Flyin Pumpkin.
82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.
84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine!
11-16-2010, 11:44 PM
#109
This forum may not be the appropriate place to have brought this up, but I wanted to know if anybody was getting regular updates or if anybody else has had their pump finished and I don't know who else has their pump with him.
I am patient and will continue to be so, but as you said above it would be great to have some idea of ETA or even progress.
I too do many side jobs and they are always a secondary to regular customer work and can understand that.
I am in no way trying to flame Derv Tuning or cause any ill will towards him or his work.
This forum may not be the appropriate place to have brought this up, but I wanted to know if anybody was getting regular updates or if anybody else has had their pump finished and I don't know who else has their pump with him.
I am patient and will continue to be so, but as you said above it would be great to have some idea of ETA or even progress.
I too do many side jobs and they are always a secondary to regular customer work and can understand that.
11-17-2010, 12:37 AM
#110
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
More than one person has complained, a heads up on the board would not be too much to ask as effectively we are an advertising medium for him. If hes got 3 wives and 9 kids, I'll forgive him for not checking in....
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
11-17-2010, 01:17 AM
#111
1990 Power Ram 50 V6 SOHC 24V 6g72
I can be wrong, don't take everything I say as verbatim, please fact-check first.
My posts are my personal opinions and thoughts, unless otherwise noted.
I ment nothing ill, just stating that sometimes a phonecall works better. The registered mail joke was a bit uncalled for though, I admit that.
1990 Power Ram 50 V6 SOHC 24V 6g72
I can be wrong, don't take everything I say as verbatim, please fact-check first.
My posts are my personal opinions and thoughts, unless otherwise noted.
11-17-2010, 01:48 AM
#112
After Kurtis' PM I sent him an email a couple of days ago.
Normally he replies to me, but it happens to him being on a business trip far away.
There should not be more than the mentioned pumps in the line as he has no more elements.
All paid elements are in David's hands (shipped right after payment to me or even before). I try to keep an overview but have no influence to the progress in the US.
The situation gets clear when he is back.
Tom
As a partner of David I have to say that I my last contact was 4 weeks ago.
After Kurtis' PM I sent him an email a couple of days ago.
Normally he replies to me, but it happens to him being on a business trip far away.
There should not be more than the mentioned pumps in the line as he has no more elements.
All paid elements are in David's hands (shipped right after payment to me or even before). I try to keep an overview but have no influence to the progress in the US.
The situation gets clear when he is back.
Tom
11-18-2010, 12:09 PM
#113
(11-17-2010, 01:48 AM)tomnik As a partner of David I have to say that I my last contact was 4 weeks ago.
After Kurtis' PM I sent him an email a couple of days ago.
Normally he replies to me, but it happens to him being on a business trip far away.
There should not be more than the mentioned pumps in the line as he has no more elements.
All paid elements are in David's hands (shipped right after payment to me or even before). I try to keep an overview but have no influence to the progress in the US.
The situation gets clear when he is back.
Tom
I am getting together all of my resources right now for when I can find a clean 300td and begin my perforamance project but, I was wondering if the supply of 7.5mm elements that you have is limited or not? Like, will you eventually run out?
Just wanted to check because I would rather get the parts from you and have Derv Tuning do the work as opposed to Myna.
Thanks!
1990 300CE
Looking for a diesel project
(11-17-2010, 01:48 AM)tomnik As a partner of David I have to say that I my last contact was 4 weeks ago.
After Kurtis' PM I sent him an email a couple of days ago.
Normally he replies to me, but it happens to him being on a business trip far away.
There should not be more than the mentioned pumps in the line as he has no more elements.
All paid elements are in David's hands (shipped right after payment to me or even before). I try to keep an overview but have no influence to the progress in the US.
The situation gets clear when he is back.
Tom
I am getting together all of my resources right now for when I can find a clean 300td and begin my perforamance project but, I was wondering if the supply of 7.5mm elements that you have is limited or not? Like, will you eventually run out?
Just wanted to check because I would rather get the parts from you and have Derv Tuning do the work as opposed to Myna.
Thanks!
1990 300CE
Looking for a diesel project
11-19-2010, 01:01 AM
#114
But raws are still at the manufacturer and the final design is fixed step by step as a separate part number over there.
On the other hand it takes some time to get the finished elements as I am not a cat. A customer for them.
The new order runs already for about 12 sets.
Tom
Currently I ran out of elements.
But raws are still at the manufacturer and the final design is fixed step by step as a separate part number over there.
On the other hand it takes some time to get the finished elements as I am not a cat. A customer for them.
The new order runs already for about 12 sets.
Tom
11-21-2010, 01:04 PM
#115
(11-19-2010, 01:01 AM)tomnik Currently I ran out of elements.
But raws are still at the manufacturer and the final design is fixed step by step as a separate part number over there.
On the other hand it takes some time to get the finished elements as I am not a cat. A customer for them.
The new order runs already for about 12 sets.
Tom
Okay thanks for the info.
1990 300CE
Looking for a diesel project
(11-19-2010, 01:01 AM)tomnik Currently I ran out of elements.
But raws are still at the manufacturer and the final design is fixed step by step as a separate part number over there.
On the other hand it takes some time to get the finished elements as I am not a cat. A customer for them.
The new order runs already for about 12 sets.
Tom
Okay thanks for the info.
1990 300CE
Looking for a diesel project
12-01-2010, 06:35 PM
#116
I have emailed dave twice in 7 days with no responce He has my pump and injectors and has installed the imfamous floyds he has had my pump since april does any body know or herd about what is or isn't going on?
squirrelmaster
12-01-2010, 06:35 PM #116
I have emailed dave twice in 7 days with no responce He has my pump and injectors and has installed the imfamous floyds he has had my pump since april does any body know or herd about what is or isn't going on?
12-01-2010, 08:06 PM
#117
Mb 1984 w201 om603 swap.
Mb 1986 w201 190E 2.3-16v
Mb 2004 w203 C230k
George3soccer
12-01-2010, 08:06 PM #117Haven't heard from him, but he is super busy. I know its getting a bit annoyed but hes a good guy he will free up just before the holidays for sure.
Mb 1984 w201 om603 swap.
Mb 1986 w201 190E 2.3-16v
Mb 2004 w203 C230k
12-02-2010, 11:16 PM
#119
squirrelmaster
12-02-2010, 11:16 PM #119Ya thats why I don't understand why he cant take a minute to let me know whats going on, If I don't hear from him by new years I'm driveing to his house and doing whatever it takes to get this shit straitend out
12-03-2010, 08:44 AM
#120
(12-02-2010, 01:06 AM)tomnik ...it only takes 5 min to post or shoot an email...
Yes, but when you're super busy you don't always want to spend that five minutes doing something. Sometimes you just want to spend that five minutes staring at the ceiling and thinking about what you want to. My $.02 anyway!
John Robbins
'05 E320 CDI - 118k - Faaaaaast!!
'87 300TD - 317k - Cracked head... but an OM606 is on the way!
'79 300SD - 295k - Bad engine = project car!
(12-02-2010, 01:06 AM)tomnik ...it only takes 5 min to post or shoot an email...
Yes, but when you're super busy you don't always want to spend that five minutes doing something. Sometimes you just want to spend that five minutes staring at the ceiling and thinking about what you want to. My $.02 anyway!
John Robbins
'05 E320 CDI - 118k - Faaaaaast!!
'87 300TD - 317k - Cracked head... but an OM606 is on the way!
'79 300SD - 295k - Bad engine = project car!
12-03-2010, 09:00 AM
#121
Tom
maybe Scott can jump in and tell us more...
(12-03-2010, 08:44 AM)Tymbrymi Yes, but when you're super busy you don't always want to spend that five minutes doing something. Sometimes you just want to spend that five minutes staring at the ceiling and thinking about what you want to. My $.02 anyway!
This post was last modified: 12-03-2010, 09:01 AM by tomnik.
you are right if just somebody tries to get in contact with him, but hey, it's me, his source for elements, his partner.
Tom
maybe Scott can jump in and tell us more...
(12-03-2010, 08:44 AM)Tymbrymi Yes, but when you're super busy you don't always want to spend that five minutes doing something. Sometimes you just want to spend that five minutes staring at the ceiling and thinking about what you want to. My $.02 anyway!
12-03-2010, 07:54 PM
#122
(12-03-2010, 08:44 AM)Tymbrymi(12-02-2010, 01:06 AM)tomnik ...it only takes 5 min to post or shoot an email...
Yes, but when you're super busy you don't always want to spend that five minutes doing something. Sometimes you just want to spend that five minutes staring at the ceiling and thinking about what you want to. My $.02 anyway!
If I have paid someone 2 cents and they are not responding to my calls and emails then they need to spend that 5 minutes letting me know whats up. Even for 2 cents.
Thats my 2 cents.
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
(12-03-2010, 08:44 AM)Tymbrymi(12-02-2010, 01:06 AM)tomnik ...it only takes 5 min to post or shoot an email...
Yes, but when you're super busy you don't always want to spend that five minutes doing something. Sometimes you just want to spend that five minutes staring at the ceiling and thinking about what you want to. My $.02 anyway!
If I have paid someone 2 cents and they are not responding to my calls and emails then they need to spend that 5 minutes letting me know whats up. Even for 2 cents.
Thats my 2 cents.
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
12-16-2010, 04:11 PM
#125
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
There are special tools required to pull the cam and a test bench is needed. There has been discussion on a home made bench. I have yet to see part numbers, pics or even descriptions of these tools.
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
12-16-2010, 04:12 PM
#126
I had a shop do exactly that but with 6mm Bosch elements, and I hope to install that pump in my car this weekend. It should be good for approx 210hp at the crank on a 603 engine. I went to the dyno two weeks ago for a "before" dyno graph with the bone-stock pump (116rwhp uncorrected, on winter blend fuel). Assuming the custom pump works as expected, after some road testing it will go back to the dyno to get the "after" dyno sheet with real numbers (no estimates). I also did 0-60 / 0-80 / etc testing before, and will do after testing as well to show real-world results. (Local dragstrip is closed until April, sorry.)
Dave M.
Boise, ID, USA
1997 E420 - 149kmi (Bugeyes)
1994 E420 - 136kmi (Blondie)
1994 E500 - 116kmi (Q-ship)
1992 500E - 179kmi (Mach 5)
1987 300D - 330kmi (Sportline Stage 2)
Click here for my website!
You need to have a Bosch shop capable of fully disassembling the pump, swapping the elements, re-assembling it with all new gaskets/seals, then - AFAIK - it has to be calibrated on a Bosch test bench to put out as much fuel as possible at full load while still maintaining stock fuel delivery at idle. (That is, assuming you want the pump "maxed out").
I had a shop do exactly that but with 6mm Bosch elements, and I hope to install that pump in my car this weekend. It should be good for approx 210hp at the crank on a 603 engine. I went to the dyno two weeks ago for a "before" dyno graph with the bone-stock pump (116rwhp uncorrected, on winter blend fuel). Assuming the custom pump works as expected, after some road testing it will go back to the dyno to get the "after" dyno sheet with real numbers (no estimates). I also did 0-60 / 0-80 / etc testing before, and will do after testing as well to show real-world results. (Local dragstrip is closed until April, sorry.)
Dave M.
Boise, ID, USA
1997 E420 - 149kmi (Bugeyes)
1994 E420 - 136kmi (Blondie)
1994 E500 - 116kmi (Q-ship)
1992 500E - 179kmi (Mach 5)
1987 300D - 330kmi (Sportline Stage 2)
Click here for my website!
12-16-2010, 05:19 PM
#127
Also let me know how the pump turns out?
Mb 1984 w201 om603 swap.
Mb 1986 w201 190E 2.3-16v
Mb 2004 w203 C230k
George3soccer
12-16-2010, 05:19 PM #127Very interesting gsxr, please do a write up on your achievements.
Also let me know how the pump turns out?
Mb 1984 w201 om603 swap.
Mb 1986 w201 190E 2.3-16v
Mb 2004 w203 C230k
12-16-2010, 08:40 PM
#129
jonbobshinigin
12-16-2010, 08:40 PM #129Not that I have read of yet! Dave, I am thrilled to hear about your success!
12-16-2010, 08:42 PM
#130
(12-16-2010, 04:12 PM)gsxr You need to have a Bosch shop capable of fully disassembling the pump, swapping the elements, re-assembling it with all new gaskets/seals, then - AFAIK - it has to be calibrated on a Bosch test bench to put out as much fuel as possible at full load while still maintaining stock fuel delivery at idle. (That is, assuming you want the pump "maxed out").
I had a shop do exactly that but with 6mm Bosch elements, and I hope to install that pump in my car this weekend. It should be good for approx 210hp at the crank on a 603 engine. I went to the dyno two weeks ago for a "before" dyno graph with the bone-stock pump (116rwhp uncorrected, on winter blend fuel). Assuming the custom pump works as expected, after some road testing it will go back to the dyno to get the "after" dyno sheet with real numbers (no estimates). I also did 0-60 / 0-80 / etc testing before, and will do after testing as well to show real-world results. (Local dragstrip is closed until April, sorry.)
Good to hear!
So I'm assuming I can call around some local diesel shops and have them do the same thing you mentioned? How much did something like this cost? Anything else I should know about before doing this? Thanks again!
(12-16-2010, 04:12 PM)gsxr You need to have a Bosch shop capable of fully disassembling the pump, swapping the elements, re-assembling it with all new gaskets/seals, then - AFAIK - it has to be calibrated on a Bosch test bench to put out as much fuel as possible at full load while still maintaining stock fuel delivery at idle. (That is, assuming you want the pump "maxed out").
I had a shop do exactly that but with 6mm Bosch elements, and I hope to install that pump in my car this weekend. It should be good for approx 210hp at the crank on a 603 engine. I went to the dyno two weeks ago for a "before" dyno graph with the bone-stock pump (116rwhp uncorrected, on winter blend fuel). Assuming the custom pump works as expected, after some road testing it will go back to the dyno to get the "after" dyno sheet with real numbers (no estimates). I also did 0-60 / 0-80 / etc testing before, and will do after testing as well to show real-world results. (Local dragstrip is closed until April, sorry.)
Good to hear!
So I'm assuming I can call around some local diesel shops and have them do the same thing you mentioned? How much did something like this cost? Anything else I should know about before doing this? Thanks again!
12-16-2010, 09:04 PM
#131
i will pick up the pump up my self if he will not send it back i'm am thourally pissed off and tired of this bull shit. can this guy in holland finish my pump with the floyd elements if not i will make him eat the money i spent on them. he also has my injectors at this point I would have been happy to send my pump to myna to avoid all this bullshit I also want his address in case he tries to ignore my again. Im sorry to bring this upon you.
squirrelmaster
12-16-2010, 09:04 PM #131I cannot get a hold of dave Last contact with him was over a month ago, I need his phone # He has had my pump since march 25 2010
i will pick up the pump up my self if he will not send it back i'm am thourally pissed off and tired of this bull shit. can this guy in holland finish my pump with the floyd elements if not i will make him eat the money i spent on them. he also has my injectors at this point I would have been happy to send my pump to myna to avoid all this bullshit I also want his address in case he tries to ignore my again. Im sorry to bring this upon you.
12-17-2010, 02:58 AM
#132
Try a reverse phone directory lookup, filterng by state and name?
1990 Power Ram 50 V6 SOHC 24V 6g72
I can be wrong, don't take everything I say as verbatim, please fact-check first.
My posts are my personal opinions and thoughts, unless otherwise noted.
Wouldn't you have an address if you sent it to him?
Try a reverse phone directory lookup, filterng by state and name?
1990 Power Ram 50 V6 SOHC 24V 6g72
I can be wrong, don't take everything I say as verbatim, please fact-check first.
My posts are my personal opinions and thoughts, unless otherwise noted.
12-17-2010, 10:41 AM
#133
(12-16-2010, 08:40 PM)jonbobshinigin Dave, I am thrilled to hear about your success!Whoa now, it's only a test bench success so far... I'm not ready to call it a complete success until the pump is installed and the car is driving without problems! I'll start a new thread when that happens.
(12-16-2010, 08:42 PM)Mahonroy So I'm assuming I can call around some local diesel shops and have them do the same thing you mentioned? How much did something like this cost? Anything else I should know about before doing this? Thanks again!Basically yes, you can call some Bosch shops and see if they are willing to do custom work on a Bosch M-pump. Some will, some won't, kinda depends if they need the work and/or are comfortable handing you a pump that doesn't match any official Bosch spec sheet (i.e., they can't guarantee the results). Cost will likely be about $100 per element (for new 6mm Bosch elements), so ~$600 in elements, plus mabye $100 in "soft parts" (seals / gaskets), and $500-$750 labor for the rebuild and calibration. Figure at least $1200 total, and you supply the good core pump.
If my hybrid 603 pump works well (which remains to be proven), I can give you the contact info of the shop that did my pump in Washington. I also have a spare 606 pump with 6mm elements that I might sell, although I'm not sure if it would be any cost savings as there would be additional labor to take apart the 606 pump to extract the elements, compared to just buying new ones.
(12-16-2010, 09:04 PM)squirrelmaster I cannot get a hold of dave Last contact with him was over a month ago, I need his phone # He has had my pump since march 25 2010Well if it makes you feel any better (and it probably won't!)... back when I first learned that we might be able to stick 6mm elements into a 603 pump, I found a diesel performance shop in the southern USA (who shall remain nameless) who was interested in doing this as an experiment on the side. I bought a 603 core pump and used 606 pump and sent both to him. We exchanged emails periodically, and during that time he did send me a set of modified / rebuilt injectors to try, which I did (first set had problems, I sent them back and he sent a second set which worked well). But after two years - yes, two years - I still didn't have the pump done. He did return my 606 pump on my request, with apologies; he was too busy doing work that paid money to mess with my freebie/gratis project. I didn't get the 603 pump back (it was torn apart) but the good injectors made up for it. This was in mid 2007-2009, approx.
i will pick up the pump up my self if he will not send it back ...
The shop in WA ended up having my pumps for about a year, roughly, although that was partly because they built one pump right away and were waiting for results which never happened (the recipient was unable to test the pump in his car - long story). Finally we said to just go ahead and do the second pump anyway (mine) so they finished it up and I got it in September 2010. The next 3 month delay was my fault, but my end of the deal is to test it in my car, and provide before & after dyno graphs if it works out. If so, they'll be willing to do the same work for the general public, with an expected turnaround time of a few weeks I believe.
However - in both cases, I was able to get responses via email in 1-3 business days, even though it took many months for the pumps to finally return to me. I would expect the same from DervTuning... if you sent him pumps & paid for elements, you're at least due for a courtesy update!
FWIW, if the 6mm elements work as expected, I want to buy a set of 7.5mm Floyds from Tomnik and have the same WA shop build a pump with the Floyds. But, that's getting a little ahead... need to get data on the 6mm setup first.
This post was last modified: 12-17-2010, 11:08 AM by gsxr.
Dave M.
Boise, ID, USA
1997 E420 - 149kmi (Bugeyes)
1994 E420 - 136kmi (Blondie)
1994 E500 - 116kmi (Q-ship)
1992 500E - 179kmi (Mach 5)
1987 300D - 330kmi (Sportline Stage 2)
Click here for my website!
(12-16-2010, 08:40 PM)jonbobshinigin Dave, I am thrilled to hear about your success!Whoa now, it's only a test bench success so far... I'm not ready to call it a complete success until the pump is installed and the car is driving without problems! I'll start a new thread when that happens.
(12-16-2010, 08:42 PM)Mahonroy So I'm assuming I can call around some local diesel shops and have them do the same thing you mentioned? How much did something like this cost? Anything else I should know about before doing this? Thanks again!Basically yes, you can call some Bosch shops and see if they are willing to do custom work on a Bosch M-pump. Some will, some won't, kinda depends if they need the work and/or are comfortable handing you a pump that doesn't match any official Bosch spec sheet (i.e., they can't guarantee the results). Cost will likely be about $100 per element (for new 6mm Bosch elements), so ~$600 in elements, plus mabye $100 in "soft parts" (seals / gaskets), and $500-$750 labor for the rebuild and calibration. Figure at least $1200 total, and you supply the good core pump.
If my hybrid 603 pump works well (which remains to be proven), I can give you the contact info of the shop that did my pump in Washington. I also have a spare 606 pump with 6mm elements that I might sell, although I'm not sure if it would be any cost savings as there would be additional labor to take apart the 606 pump to extract the elements, compared to just buying new ones.
(12-16-2010, 09:04 PM)squirrelmaster I cannot get a hold of dave Last contact with him was over a month ago, I need his phone # He has had my pump since march 25 2010Well if it makes you feel any better (and it probably won't!)... back when I first learned that we might be able to stick 6mm elements into a 603 pump, I found a diesel performance shop in the southern USA (who shall remain nameless) who was interested in doing this as an experiment on the side. I bought a 603 core pump and used 606 pump and sent both to him. We exchanged emails periodically, and during that time he did send me a set of modified / rebuilt injectors to try, which I did (first set had problems, I sent them back and he sent a second set which worked well). But after two years - yes, two years - I still didn't have the pump done. He did return my 606 pump on my request, with apologies; he was too busy doing work that paid money to mess with my freebie/gratis project. I didn't get the 603 pump back (it was torn apart) but the good injectors made up for it. This was in mid 2007-2009, approx.
i will pick up the pump up my self if he will not send it back ...
The shop in WA ended up having my pumps for about a year, roughly, although that was partly because they built one pump right away and were waiting for results which never happened (the recipient was unable to test the pump in his car - long story). Finally we said to just go ahead and do the second pump anyway (mine) so they finished it up and I got it in September 2010. The next 3 month delay was my fault, but my end of the deal is to test it in my car, and provide before & after dyno graphs if it works out. If so, they'll be willing to do the same work for the general public, with an expected turnaround time of a few weeks I believe.
However - in both cases, I was able to get responses via email in 1-3 business days, even though it took many months for the pumps to finally return to me. I would expect the same from DervTuning... if you sent him pumps & paid for elements, you're at least due for a courtesy update!
FWIW, if the 6mm elements work as expected, I want to buy a set of 7.5mm Floyds from Tomnik and have the same WA shop build a pump with the Floyds. But, that's getting a little ahead... need to get data on the 6mm setup first.
Dave M.
Boise, ID, USA
1997 E420 - 149kmi (Bugeyes)
1994 E420 - 136kmi (Blondie)
1994 E500 - 116kmi (Q-ship)
1992 500E - 179kmi (Mach 5)
1987 300D - 330kmi (Sportline Stage 2)
Click here for my website!
12-17-2010, 02:43 PM
#134
My first pump (in Berlin) took also more than a year (now sitting in my garage waiting for installation for another year).
My M 5 turbo IP is now in the bench shop for nearly 2 months, had the guy on the phone yesterday and he said, like many times meanwhile, that the pump will be here next week.
Regarding David I hate not getting any feedback for quite a good time now.
All the deals with my elements were in time and without any complains.
Tom
I am now convinced that the delays are based in the pumps directly.
My first pump (in Berlin) took also more than a year (now sitting in my garage waiting for installation for another year).
My M 5 turbo IP is now in the bench shop for nearly 2 months, had the guy on the phone yesterday and he said, like many times meanwhile, that the pump will be here next week.
Regarding David I hate not getting any feedback for quite a good time now.
All the deals with my elements were in time and without any complains.
Tom
12-17-2010, 05:20 PM
#135
First of all I will apologize to Derv Tuning. David is one hell of a nice guy. So David when you get back in country "I am sorry to have put you in this position."
When David asked me if I would be interested in doing this I told him I would do them when I had time. I have about 25 hours in the first pump trying to tweak it as much as I could. David had that pump on his car two or three times. We are a small shop and I try to put out the highest quality I can. To me the most important thing is idle. Any time you customize the pump the governor must still be able to control idle in a stable manor. With the first pump we achieved that goal.
I am working on the MW pump now. I don't like the way the governor is acting so I will probably need to go back into it. I am going to try and get this one done next week. I am hoping David gets back in town so he can install it on his car for dynamic testing.
Squirrelmaster your pump is torn down and coming up next. When you ship an injection pump please drain all fluids and really pack them well. Your idle solenoid was broken in transit. I have one from a core pump that I will put in.
After the new year I will be on Squirrelmasters. Hoping to have it done by the second week. Unfortunately we do not have a 6 cly vehicle to do dynamic testing on.
Scott
Tom you are correct. It is the pump shops fault with the delay. That would be me.
First of all I will apologize to Derv Tuning. David is one hell of a nice guy. So David when you get back in country "I am sorry to have put you in this position."
When David asked me if I would be interested in doing this I told him I would do them when I had time. I have about 25 hours in the first pump trying to tweak it as much as I could. David had that pump on his car two or three times. We are a small shop and I try to put out the highest quality I can. To me the most important thing is idle. Any time you customize the pump the governor must still be able to control idle in a stable manor. With the first pump we achieved that goal.
I am working on the MW pump now. I don't like the way the governor is acting so I will probably need to go back into it. I am going to try and get this one done next week. I am hoping David gets back in town so he can install it on his car for dynamic testing.
Squirrelmaster your pump is torn down and coming up next. When you ship an injection pump please drain all fluids and really pack them well. Your idle solenoid was broken in transit. I have one from a core pump that I will put in.
After the new year I will be on Squirrelmasters. Hoping to have it done by the second week. Unfortunately we do not have a 6 cly vehicle to do dynamic testing on.
Scott
12-17-2010, 06:00 PM
#137
(12-17-2010, 05:20 PM)Mcrae645 Tom you are correct. It is the pump shops fault with the delay. That would be me.hi,
First of all I will apologize to Derv Tuning. David is one hell of a nice guy. So David when you get back in country "I am sorry to have put you in this position."
When David asked me if I would be interested in doing this I told him I would do them when I had time. I have about 25 hours in the first pump trying to tweak it as much as I could. David had that pump on his car two or three times. We are a small shop and I try to put out the highest quality I can. To me the most important thing is idle. Any time you customize the pump the governor must still be able to control idle in a stable manor. With the first pump we achieved that goal.
I am working on the MW pump now. I don't like the way the governor is acting so I will probably need to go back into it. I am going to try and get this one done next week. I am hoping David gets back in town so he can install it on his car for dynamic testing.
Squirrelmaster your pump is torn down and coming up next. When you ship an injection pump please drain all fluids and really pack them well. Your idle solenoid was broken in transit. I have one from a core pump that I will put in.
After the new year I will be on Squirrelmasters. Hoping to have it done by the second week. Unfortunately we do not have a 6 cly vehicle to do dynamic testing on.
Scott
sorry to jump in here guys i know some of you are waiting on pumps etc. Would it not be quicker and easier to use a pump with already bigger elements and get the govner adjusted to suit. I dont know if anyone has tried this on mercedes engines but its not rocket science. Injector pump turns at half speed of crank and can be driven external of a timing belt or chain. Any pair of pulleys from any camshaft, crank combination would work. Cam turns at same speed as pump. correct me if im wrong but it would save a lot of hassle. I know of a lot of tractor and truck pumps with 8-14 mm elements than can easily be adjusted to rev to 7000rpm, just ask the tractor pulling guys.If anyone knows how to get diesel its these guys.
wayne
(12-17-2010, 05:20 PM)Mcrae645 Tom you are correct. It is the pump shops fault with the delay. That would be me.hi,
First of all I will apologize to Derv Tuning. David is one hell of a nice guy. So David when you get back in country "I am sorry to have put you in this position."
When David asked me if I would be interested in doing this I told him I would do them when I had time. I have about 25 hours in the first pump trying to tweak it as much as I could. David had that pump on his car two or three times. We are a small shop and I try to put out the highest quality I can. To me the most important thing is idle. Any time you customize the pump the governor must still be able to control idle in a stable manor. With the first pump we achieved that goal.
I am working on the MW pump now. I don't like the way the governor is acting so I will probably need to go back into it. I am going to try and get this one done next week. I am hoping David gets back in town so he can install it on his car for dynamic testing.
Squirrelmaster your pump is torn down and coming up next. When you ship an injection pump please drain all fluids and really pack them well. Your idle solenoid was broken in transit. I have one from a core pump that I will put in.
After the new year I will be on Squirrelmasters. Hoping to have it done by the second week. Unfortunately we do not have a 6 cly vehicle to do dynamic testing on.
Scott
sorry to jump in here guys i know some of you are waiting on pumps etc. Would it not be quicker and easier to use a pump with already bigger elements and get the govner adjusted to suit. I dont know if anyone has tried this on mercedes engines but its not rocket science. Injector pump turns at half speed of crank and can be driven external of a timing belt or chain. Any pair of pulleys from any camshaft, crank combination would work. Cam turns at same speed as pump. correct me if im wrong but it would save a lot of hassle. I know of a lot of tractor and truck pumps with 8-14 mm elements than can easily be adjusted to rev to 7000rpm, just ask the tractor pulling guys.If anyone knows how to get diesel its these guys.
wayne
12-17-2010, 06:47 PM
#138
(12-17-2010, 05:20 PM)Mcrae645 Tom you are correct. It is the pump shops fault with the delay. That would be me.
First of all I will apologize to Derv Tuning. David is one hell of a nice guy. So David when you get back in country "I am sorry to have put you in this position."
Scott
Hi Scott,
Thank you for posting an update. I know lots of us have been trying to figure out what has been going on. Nice to actually know now. Also, thanks for letting us know that it isn't Davids fault for the delay. I hope everything is going well at your shop and please do keep us up to speed.
Happy Holidays,
B.
82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.
84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine!
(12-17-2010, 05:20 PM)Mcrae645 Tom you are correct. It is the pump shops fault with the delay. That would be me.
First of all I will apologize to Derv Tuning. David is one hell of a nice guy. So David when you get back in country "I am sorry to have put you in this position."
Scott
Hi Scott,
Thank you for posting an update. I know lots of us have been trying to figure out what has been going on. Nice to actually know now. Also, thanks for letting us know that it isn't Davids fault for the delay. I hope everything is going well at your shop and please do keep us up to speed.
Happy Holidays,
B.
82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.
84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine!
12-17-2010, 06:53 PM
#139
(12-17-2010, 05:41 PM)winmutt Am I correct in reading that the problem with Derv is that he has been out of the country?Yes, but the delay is still on me.
Tom, I forgot to mention how nice the Floyds are. They balance on the bench like Bosch elements. Not like some of the Chinese crap I have seen.
Scott
(12-17-2010, 05:41 PM)winmutt Am I correct in reading that the problem with Derv is that he has been out of the country?Yes, but the delay is still on me.
Tom, I forgot to mention how nice the Floyds are. They balance on the bench like Bosch elements. Not like some of the Chinese crap I have seen.
Scott
12-17-2010, 08:07 PM
#140
If there is no one else capable of doing this (I am sure there is), I am willing, although I will need to come up with an intercooler ASAP. I do however have a larger turbo ready!
Has a 603 pump already been modded?
jonbobshinigin
12-17-2010, 08:07 PM #140This is really good to hear! Now we need someone who can do some testing on a 603. My 603 Wagon is due for an IP swap because of a bottom seal leak. Well, I could just fix the leak but if the pump is coming out, an upgrade is going in!
If there is no one else capable of doing this (I am sure there is), I am willing, although I will need to come up with an intercooler ASAP. I do however have a larger turbo ready!
Has a 603 pump already been modded?
12-17-2010, 08:35 PM
#141
If things go well for you guys, I will be sending my pump for upgrades eventually.
Mb 1984 w201 om603 swap.
Mb 1986 w201 190E 2.3-16v
Mb 2004 w203 C230k
George3soccer
12-17-2010, 08:35 PM #141Hey guys I live in Northern NJ, if you guys need a 603 motor to do testings on. I am more then happy to use mine as a mule. The motor is in a w201, but shouldnt matter on the testings.
If things go well for you guys, I will be sending my pump for upgrades eventually.
Mb 1984 w201 om603 swap.
Mb 1986 w201 190E 2.3-16v
Mb 2004 w203 C230k
12-18-2010, 03:08 AM
#143
(12-17-2010, 10:41 AM)gsxrIt's not dynamite diesel... is it?(12-16-2010, 08:40 PM)jonbobshinigin Dave, I am thrilled to hear about your success!Whoa now, it's only a test bench success so far... I'm not ready to call it a complete success until the pump is installed and the car is driving without problems! I'll start a new thread when that happens.
(12-16-2010, 08:42 PM)Mahonroy So I'm assuming I can call around some local diesel shops and have them do the same thing you mentioned? How much did something like this cost? Anything else I should know about before doing this? Thanks again!Basically yes, you can call some Bosch shops and see if they are willing to do custom work on a Bosch M-pump. Some will, some won't, kinda depends if they need the work and/or are comfortable handing you a pump that doesn't match any official Bosch spec sheet (i.e., they can't guarantee the results). Cost will likely be about $100 per element (for new 6mm Bosch elements), so ~$600 in elements, plus mabye $100 in "soft parts" (seals / gaskets), and $500-$750 labor for the rebuild and calibration. Figure at least $1200 total, and you supply the good core pump.
If my hybrid 603 pump works well (which remains to be proven), I can give you the contact info of the shop that did my pump in Washington. I also have a spare 606 pump with 6mm elements that I might sell, although I'm not sure if it would be any cost savings as there would be additional labor to take apart the 606 pump to extract the elements, compared to just buying new ones.
(12-16-2010, 09:04 PM)squirrelmaster I cannot get a hold of dave Last contact with him was over a month ago, I need his phone # He has had my pump since march 25 2010Well if it makes you feel any better (and it probably won't!)... back when I first learned that we might be able to stick 6mm elements into a 603 pump, I found a diesel performance shop in the southern USA (who shall remain nameless) who was interested in doing this as an experiment on the side. I bought a 603 core pump and used 606 pump and sent both to him. We exchanged emails periodically, and during that time he did send me a set of modified / rebuilt injectors to try, which I did (first set had problems, I sent them back and he sent a second set which worked well). But after two years - yes, two years - I still didn't have the pump done. He did return my 606 pump on my request, with apologies; he was too busy doing work that paid money to mess with my freebie/gratis project. I didn't get the 603 pump back (it was torn apart) but the good injectors made up for it. This was in mid 2007-2009, approx.
i will pick up the pump up my self if he will not send it back ...
The shop in WA ended up having my pumps for about a year, roughly, although that was partly because they built one pump right away and were waiting for results which never happened (the recipient was unable to test the pump in his car - long story). Finally we said to just go ahead and do the second pump anyway (mine) so they finished it up and I got it in September 2010. The next 3 month delay was my fault, but my end of the deal is to test it in my car, and provide before & after dyno graphs if it works out. If so, they'll be willing to do the same work for the general public, with an expected turnaround time of a few weeks I believe.
However - in both cases, I was able to get responses via email in 1-3 business days, even though it took many months for the pumps to finally return to me. I would expect the same from DervTuning... if you sent him pumps & paid for elements, you're at least due for a courtesy update!
FWIW, if the 6mm elements work as expected, I want to buy a set of 7.5mm Floyds from Tomnik and have the same WA shop build a pump with the Floyds. But, that's getting a little ahead... need to get data on the 6mm setup first.
1981 Mercedes 300TD Lowered 4 speed manual Holset HX30
mike-81-240d
12-18-2010, 03:08 AM #143(12-17-2010, 10:41 AM)gsxrIt's not dynamite diesel... is it?(12-16-2010, 08:40 PM)jonbobshinigin Dave, I am thrilled to hear about your success!Whoa now, it's only a test bench success so far... I'm not ready to call it a complete success until the pump is installed and the car is driving without problems! I'll start a new thread when that happens.
(12-16-2010, 08:42 PM)Mahonroy So I'm assuming I can call around some local diesel shops and have them do the same thing you mentioned? How much did something like this cost? Anything else I should know about before doing this? Thanks again!Basically yes, you can call some Bosch shops and see if they are willing to do custom work on a Bosch M-pump. Some will, some won't, kinda depends if they need the work and/or are comfortable handing you a pump that doesn't match any official Bosch spec sheet (i.e., they can't guarantee the results). Cost will likely be about $100 per element (for new 6mm Bosch elements), so ~$600 in elements, plus mabye $100 in "soft parts" (seals / gaskets), and $500-$750 labor for the rebuild and calibration. Figure at least $1200 total, and you supply the good core pump.
If my hybrid 603 pump works well (which remains to be proven), I can give you the contact info of the shop that did my pump in Washington. I also have a spare 606 pump with 6mm elements that I might sell, although I'm not sure if it would be any cost savings as there would be additional labor to take apart the 606 pump to extract the elements, compared to just buying new ones.
(12-16-2010, 09:04 PM)squirrelmaster I cannot get a hold of dave Last contact with him was over a month ago, I need his phone # He has had my pump since march 25 2010Well if it makes you feel any better (and it probably won't!)... back when I first learned that we might be able to stick 6mm elements into a 603 pump, I found a diesel performance shop in the southern USA (who shall remain nameless) who was interested in doing this as an experiment on the side. I bought a 603 core pump and used 606 pump and sent both to him. We exchanged emails periodically, and during that time he did send me a set of modified / rebuilt injectors to try, which I did (first set had problems, I sent them back and he sent a second set which worked well). But after two years - yes, two years - I still didn't have the pump done. He did return my 606 pump on my request, with apologies; he was too busy doing work that paid money to mess with my freebie/gratis project. I didn't get the 603 pump back (it was torn apart) but the good injectors made up for it. This was in mid 2007-2009, approx.
i will pick up the pump up my self if he will not send it back ...
The shop in WA ended up having my pumps for about a year, roughly, although that was partly because they built one pump right away and were waiting for results which never happened (the recipient was unable to test the pump in his car - long story). Finally we said to just go ahead and do the second pump anyway (mine) so they finished it up and I got it in September 2010. The next 3 month delay was my fault, but my end of the deal is to test it in my car, and provide before & after dyno graphs if it works out. If so, they'll be willing to do the same work for the general public, with an expected turnaround time of a few weeks I believe.
However - in both cases, I was able to get responses via email in 1-3 business days, even though it took many months for the pumps to finally return to me. I would expect the same from DervTuning... if you sent him pumps & paid for elements, you're at least due for a courtesy update!
FWIW, if the 6mm elements work as expected, I want to buy a set of 7.5mm Floyds from Tomnik and have the same WA shop build a pump with the Floyds. But, that's getting a little ahead... need to get data on the 6mm setup first.
1981 Mercedes 300TD Lowered 4 speed manual Holset HX30
12-18-2010, 08:41 AM
#144
Got the 6mm hybrid pump installed Friday night. Only put about 10 miles on it. So far it runs great - smooth idle, quick starts, returns to idle fine, etc. Had to turn up the tranny modulator 1 full turn and it needs another half to full turn again. It was late so I couldn't do any proper testing, but a quick 0-60 time was 9.5 sec, separate run of 0-70 was 12.5 sec, both quicker than previously but not a drastic increase. I'm not sure how accurate that is via hand-held stopwatch & looking at speedo, need to run it with my usual RaceTech AP-22 to get "real" data. I also have no idea if it's smoking or not - can't see at night. I can peg the boost gauge at will, press on the pedal and bam, 15psi. (With the stock pump, it would take a while at WOT to reach 10-12psi). I'll probably need to turn up the wastegate also - EGT's climb way faster. I'm not sure if I can do a dyno pull without an intercooler, also not sure if I can test 0-100 without an intercooler. We shall see. But so far, it's working!
Bad news - snow in forecast all weekend, it may be several days (or longer) before I can get any real numbers. I need clean dry pavement for testing. There's an inch of snow on the ground now and 1-3" more in the forecast today.
This post was last modified: 12-18-2010, 10:57 PM by gsxr.
Dave M.
Boise, ID, USA
1997 E420 - 149kmi (Bugeyes)
1994 E420 - 136kmi (Blondie)
1994 E500 - 116kmi (Q-ship)
1992 500E - 179kmi (Mach 5)
1987 300D - 330kmi (Sportline Stage 2)
Click here for my website!
Brief update:
Got the 6mm hybrid pump installed Friday night. Only put about 10 miles on it. So far it runs great - smooth idle, quick starts, returns to idle fine, etc. Had to turn up the tranny modulator 1 full turn and it needs another half to full turn again. It was late so I couldn't do any proper testing, but a quick 0-60 time was 9.5 sec, separate run of 0-70 was 12.5 sec, both quicker than previously but not a drastic increase. I'm not sure how accurate that is via hand-held stopwatch & looking at speedo, need to run it with my usual RaceTech AP-22 to get "real" data. I also have no idea if it's smoking or not - can't see at night. I can peg the boost gauge at will, press on the pedal and bam, 15psi. (With the stock pump, it would take a while at WOT to reach 10-12psi). I'll probably need to turn up the wastegate also - EGT's climb way faster. I'm not sure if I can do a dyno pull without an intercooler, also not sure if I can test 0-100 without an intercooler. We shall see. But so far, it's working!
Bad news - snow in forecast all weekend, it may be several days (or longer) before I can get any real numbers. I need clean dry pavement for testing. There's an inch of snow on the ground now and 1-3" more in the forecast today.
Dave M.
Boise, ID, USA
1997 E420 - 149kmi (Bugeyes)
1994 E420 - 136kmi (Blondie)
1994 E500 - 116kmi (Q-ship)
1992 500E - 179kmi (Mach 5)
1987 300D - 330kmi (Sportline Stage 2)
Click here for my website!
12-18-2010, 10:11 PM
#146
Haha...I am very appreciative of Dave doing this work with the 6mm, however, if I am getting mine rebuilt, it will be with the 7.5s!! I am excited to hear about your results once the snow is gone. Also, what you said about the transmission is interesting as well since there is some speculation on how well the stock 722.317 is going to hold up...mine is already on the way out!
jonbobshinigin
12-18-2010, 10:11 PM #146I suppose that is what "success" has translated to for me; progress!
Haha...I am very appreciative of Dave doing this work with the 6mm, however, if I am getting mine rebuilt, it will be with the 7.5s!! I am excited to hear about your results once the snow is gone. Also, what you said about the transmission is interesting as well since there is some speculation on how well the stock 722.317 is going to hold up...mine is already on the way out!
12-19-2010, 05:42 PM
#147
squirrelmaster
12-19-2010, 05:42 PM #147hey scott thank you for saying something, now i cando the waiting thing for a while. george 3soccer is your car a manual or auto mine is a 5 manual, I would be more then willing for you to use my pump in your car for a while to see how things go just please tell me how it goes, pos and neg
12-20-2010, 11:34 AM
#148
Im hapoy to be a test mule, i will be having a hx35 available for install aftet i makeshift a manifold. And a few other goodies before my initial pump would go in.
But guys let me know.
Mb 1984 w201 om603 swap.
Mb 1986 w201 190E 2.3-16v
Mb 2004 w203 C230k
George3soccer
12-20-2010, 11:34 AM #148Mine is a 5 speed out of a w201 m102 8vlv motor. That includes the flywheel and clutch. Will see how long the clutch will last.
Im hapoy to be a test mule, i will be having a hx35 available for install aftet i makeshift a manifold. And a few other goodies before my initial pump would go in.
But guys let me know.
Mb 1984 w201 om603 swap.
Mb 1986 w201 190E 2.3-16v
Mb 2004 w203 C230k
12-20-2010, 09:41 PM
#149
squirrelmaster
12-20-2010, 09:41 PM #149that clutch will be smoked berfore you can say oh shit i had the 215 mm flywheel on on first i could watch the tach in 4th and see the slip though it would still burnout in 1st or 2nd I brought the flywheel to a machine shop and had it machined to accept the 240mm out of a 87-88 300e .if your car has the stock manifold i think that might be ok correct me if i;m wrong but i think they need a running engine to see how idlles is and how fast it drops from rumming to idle etc I made a exhaust manifold and it took a long time to make so much grinding cutting. and slits in the plate that bolts to the head b4 u machine or belt it flat believe me it will warp as soon as u relieve it I just want to get this pump rolling cause it' becoming a Fucking career I'm tired of looking at thr 400e brakes on it and the holset he351 just sitting there, waiting to destroy tires
12-20-2010, 10:00 PM
#150
This post was last modified: 12-20-2010, 10:01 PM by willbhere4u.
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
12-20-2010, 10:00 PM #150Sound's like we need to see some pics!
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
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