STD Tuning Engine new here looking for some performance

new here looking for some performance

new here looking for some performance

 
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elzey829
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04-07-2010, 07:14 PM #1
i bought a 81 300d non turbo looking for a little more performance and was wondering if anybody knows if i can add a turbo to it some how thanks. dont know much about these diesels manily cummins guy. thanks for any help.
elzey829
04-07-2010, 07:14 PM #1

i bought a 81 300d non turbo looking for a little more performance and was wondering if anybody knows if i can add a turbo to it some how thanks. dont know much about these diesels manily cummins guy. thanks for any help.

JB3
Superturbo

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04-07-2010, 08:07 PM #2
my understanding is that all non turbo motors do not have internal oil delivery systems like under piston oil jets and such that help with the added stress of turbo charging.

Having said that, there are a number of guys on here with retrofitted NA 240s and 300s, so its definitely possible and has been done. Good news for you is (unless you are building something custom), all you have to do is grab the turbo, turbo exhaust and intake manifolds, and all other related stuff off of a turbo 5 cyl. Im not sure what you do with the intake to over boost protection relay (grab that too if you don't have a boost gauge) to ALDA connections. Someone who knows way more than I can probably tell you if you need to do something at the pump or not. does a 5 cyl non turbo have a ALA instead of a ALDA? would you have to switch them? There is discussion about the added stress to the engine, and what that might do to longevity.
This post was last modified: 04-07-2010, 08:13 PM by JB3.

1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

JB3
04-07-2010, 08:07 PM #2

my understanding is that all non turbo motors do not have internal oil delivery systems like under piston oil jets and such that help with the added stress of turbo charging.

Having said that, there are a number of guys on here with retrofitted NA 240s and 300s, so its definitely possible and has been done. Good news for you is (unless you are building something custom), all you have to do is grab the turbo, turbo exhaust and intake manifolds, and all other related stuff off of a turbo 5 cyl. Im not sure what you do with the intake to over boost protection relay (grab that too if you don't have a boost gauge) to ALDA connections. Someone who knows way more than I can probably tell you if you need to do something at the pump or not. does a 5 cyl non turbo have a ALA instead of a ALDA? would you have to switch them? There is discussion about the added stress to the engine, and what that might do to longevity.


1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

Actros617
What's a spark plug???

49
04-07-2010, 08:58 PM #3
Sell the 300D N/A and buy a 300D Turbodiesel

1984 300SD 4 Dr Diesel Sports Car (ARGUS) (Mine)

1987 300SDL Cruiser STOCK (My fathers)


Actros617
04-07-2010, 08:58 PM #3

Sell the 300D N/A and buy a 300D Turbodiesel


1984 300SD 4 Dr Diesel Sports Car (ARGUS) (Mine)

1987 300SDL Cruiser STOCK (My fathers)


capflya
Dreaming of a VNT

309
04-08-2010, 05:12 AM #4
Or swap in a turbo 5 cyl engine....



'98 E300 Turbo "Juliette" - Brabus wheels and almost all the options a w210 could have
'87 300D Turbo "Roxanne" - #22 head - 400E brakes - EGR Delete - 17" Staggered AMG 5 spoke rims from CLK500 - 5 Spd manual
2007 Chevy 2500HD CCSB Duramax with about 400-500 rwhp depending on the tune I use Big Grin
1983 300D Silver Exterior/Black inside - Sold and will be missed, may we never meet in a PnP.
capflya
04-08-2010, 05:12 AM #4

Or swap in a turbo 5 cyl engine....




'98 E300 Turbo "Juliette" - Brabus wheels and almost all the options a w210 could have
'87 300D Turbo "Roxanne" - #22 head - 400E brakes - EGR Delete - 17" Staggered AMG 5 spoke rims from CLK500 - 5 Spd manual
2007 Chevy 2500HD CCSB Duramax with about 400-500 rwhp depending on the tune I use Big Grin
1983 300D Silver Exterior/Black inside - Sold and will be missed, may we never meet in a PnP.

JB3
Superturbo

1,795
04-08-2010, 07:19 AM #5
The 300D NA is a pretty peppy car if its up to tune. I agree with above though, if you wanted to make it more powerful, if might be in your best interests to source a turbo motor, or turbo car instead of turbo charging this one and then worrying about it in service.

Personally, I would put a manual transmission behind the 5 cyl NA, and make sure its running right with a valve adjustment and fresh filters then stop at that.

even the 60 hp 240 is was more fun to drive and feels more powerful with a different transmission.

1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

JB3
04-08-2010, 07:19 AM #5

The 300D NA is a pretty peppy car if its up to tune. I agree with above though, if you wanted to make it more powerful, if might be in your best interests to source a turbo motor, or turbo car instead of turbo charging this one and then worrying about it in service.

Personally, I would put a manual transmission behind the 5 cyl NA, and make sure its running right with a valve adjustment and fresh filters then stop at that.

even the 60 hp 240 is was more fun to drive and feels more powerful with a different transmission.


1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

617.952
Naturally-aspirated

21
04-08-2010, 08:11 AM #6
i would put the na in the backyard running on biodiesel as a generator for your home and then just buy a turbo motor

too much internal difference between na and turbo for stress and heat

1985 300D 491,000k
1985 300D 591,000k
1985 300TD 788,000k
617.952
04-08-2010, 08:11 AM #6

i would put the na in the backyard running on biodiesel as a generator for your home and then just buy a turbo motor

too much internal difference between na and turbo for stress and heat


1985 300D 491,000k
1985 300D 591,000k
1985 300TD 788,000k

ForcedInduction
Banned

3,628
04-08-2010, 08:41 AM #7
The only thing you can do to increase performance on a NA engine is to turn up the ADA 1/4CCW. It can't handle a turbo, they are completely different engines internally.
ForcedInduction
04-08-2010, 08:41 AM #7

The only thing you can do to increase performance on a NA engine is to turn up the ADA 1/4CCW. It can't handle a turbo, they are completely different engines internally.

elzey829
Unregistered

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04-09-2010, 04:10 PM #8
i guess i could put a 5.9 cummins in it. lol
elzey829
04-09-2010, 04:10 PM #8

i guess i could put a 5.9 cummins in it. lol

willbhere4u
Six in a row make her go!

2,507
04-10-2010, 09:50 AM #9
Get a Cummins 4bt that would be sick!

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
04-10-2010, 09:50 AM #9

Get a Cummins 4bt that would be sick!


1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

 
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