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03-21-2013, 12:12 PM #1
Hi!

I'm looking for a way to controll a auxilliary fan from a W202 or W210. I found this: http://www.ma-uav.com/FanController.html which does exactelly what I want it to do - temp.sensitive controll of the fan speed.

[edit] all fine. They'r releasing a new version right now. I'll wait for it and buy that. Smile
This post was last modified: 03-24-2013, 06:20 AM by DiseaselWeasel.

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DiseaselWeasel
03-21-2013, 12:12 PM #1

Hi!

I'm looking for a way to controll a auxilliary fan from a W202 or W210. I found this: http://www.ma-uav.com/FanController.html which does exactelly what I want it to do - temp.sensitive controll of the fan speed.

[edit] all fine. They'r releasing a new version right now. I'll wait for it and buy that. Smile


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'88 300CD Turbo Coupé - OM603

Druk
Holset

297
03-21-2013, 12:44 PM #2
This is a Kenlowe version and the seller will ship to Europe.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MG-NEW-MGB-UNI...589cd1cd12
Druk
03-21-2013, 12:44 PM #2

This is a Kenlowe version and the seller will ship to Europe.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MG-NEW-MGB-UNI...589cd1cd12

03-21-2013, 01:42 PM #3
No it isn't. This is a on/off device and not what I'm looking for. At all. The W202/W210 fans are meant to be controlled by PWM and they draw 40A.
This post was last modified: 03-21-2013, 01:43 PM by DiseaselWeasel.

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DiseaselWeasel
03-21-2013, 01:42 PM #3

No it isn't. This is a on/off device and not what I'm looking for. At all. The W202/W210 fans are meant to be controlled by PWM and they draw 40A.


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Simpler=Better
PORTED HEAD

2,127
03-22-2013, 08:18 AM #4
PWM, there are a few guys on here who know a thing about that. Purplecomputer and OM616 maybe?

Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
03-22-2013, 08:18 AM #4

PWM, there are a few guys on here who know a thing about that. Purplecomputer and OM616 maybe?


Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?

Mark_M
GT2559V

206
03-22-2013, 09:16 AM #5
An Arduino, temp sender and a big Transistor would work out pretty good on this and is fairly simple to do. You probably wouldn't save much money on the deal but you could say you built it yourself.
Actually I just looked up a rough costing and you should save good money as well plus be able to do other things with the board.
Mark_M
03-22-2013, 09:16 AM #5

An Arduino, temp sender and a big Transistor would work out pretty good on this and is fairly simple to do. You probably wouldn't save much money on the deal but you could say you built it yourself.
Actually I just looked up a rough costing and you should save good money as well plus be able to do other things with the board.

mcwfxx
K26-2

37
12-12-2015, 07:05 AM #6
Just to follow up on this, i too was looking for a way of controlling an electric fan on my project, as no room for viscous.

The w210 fan controller is PWM controlled, and as i have a Arduino i thought i would give it a go and see if i can make it atleast run.

I figured out very quickly:

-----    +5v at PWM pin gives you SOFT START but full fan power.

-----    0v at PWM pin (dont let it float, as it randomly comes on) gives you  stopped fan.

I tried 1khz as suggested elsewhere, and using the 0-255 scale that arduino supports from the start, i found it didnt run until 50 or more. but then it gives oyu perfect control of speed. Will follow this up with my final code using  a temp sensor to control fan speeds. could easily be used if you wanted Aircon too. Arduino copies re 3 UK pounds on ebay.

Well Chuffed. No other components, all i used was a resistor to protect arduino.

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W639 Vito OM606 + 722.6 STD - in progress

Current progress: engine in, gearbox in, bumper bar modified to accept w210 radiator, audi electric fan, very tight squeeze, interior stripped out ready for new seats (w211) and custom dash with w211 clocks controlled by arduino with split fuel gauge covering main tank and auxiliary for Veg Oil ...

- DSL1 ECU for Electronic OM606 Pump (currently fitting wiring)
Next; 722.6 Controller, HX40 with homemade manifold, Air-to-water intercooler, homemade exhaust, MOT.... One day!



mcwfxx
12-12-2015, 07:05 AM #6

Just to follow up on this, i too was looking for a way of controlling an electric fan on my project, as no room for viscous.

The w210 fan controller is PWM controlled, and as i have a Arduino i thought i would give it a go and see if i can make it atleast run.

I figured out very quickly:

-----    +5v at PWM pin gives you SOFT START but full fan power.

-----    0v at PWM pin (dont let it float, as it randomly comes on) gives you  stopped fan.

I tried 1khz as suggested elsewhere, and using the 0-255 scale that arduino supports from the start, i found it didnt run until 50 or more. but then it gives oyu perfect control of speed. Will follow this up with my final code using  a temp sensor to control fan speeds. could easily be used if you wanted Aircon too. Arduino copies re 3 UK pounds on ebay.

Well Chuffed. No other components, all i used was a resistor to protect arduino.


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W639 Vito OM606 + 722.6 STD - in progress

Current progress: engine in, gearbox in, bumper bar modified to accept w210 radiator, audi electric fan, very tight squeeze, interior stripped out ready for new seats (w211) and custom dash with w211 clocks controlled by arduino with split fuel gauge covering main tank and auxiliary for Veg Oil ...

- DSL1 ECU for Electronic OM606 Pump (currently fitting wiring)
Next; 722.6 Controller, HX40 with homemade manifold, Air-to-water intercooler, homemade exhaust, MOT.... One day!



deviance
HE351VE

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12-12-2015, 08:55 AM #7
Use Arduino with TIP122.
deviance
12-12-2015, 08:55 AM #7

Use Arduino with TIP122.

whipplem104
Holset

559
12-12-2015, 10:07 AM #8
I use my PCS datalogger and have used the TCM-2000 to run the pwm signal to the factory fan controllers as well. I run one for my fan and another for my water pump. The reason I like the D200 logger is that it has a 3d map for output and I can set not only based on temp but load or rpm for the water pump and vehicle speed for the fan on top of temp.
This is probably a bit more expensive of an option but you get the other benifits of the logger with it. The tcm-2000 just has a 2d output which is just fine for just temp. But it also only has so many outputs.
whipplem104
12-12-2015, 10:07 AM #8

I use my PCS datalogger and have used the TCM-2000 to run the pwm signal to the factory fan controllers as well. I run one for my fan and another for my water pump. The reason I like the D200 logger is that it has a 3d map for output and I can set not only based on temp but load or rpm for the water pump and vehicle speed for the fan on top of temp.
This is probably a bit more expensive of an option but you get the other benifits of the logger with it. The tcm-2000 just has a 2d output which is just fine for just temp. But it also only has so many outputs.

Evenglass
GT2256V

149
12-12-2015, 12:28 PM #9
I just installed one of these, true PWM. No complaints at all. Pretty reasonably priced I think.
http://www.autocoolguy.com/
Evenglass
12-12-2015, 12:28 PM #9

I just installed one of these, true PWM. No complaints at all. Pretty reasonably priced I think.
http://www.autocoolguy.com/

baldur
Fast

509
12-12-2015, 02:21 PM #10
I built a controller for a Temic brushless fan out of a BMW a few years ago, I believe they are identical to what's found on some V8 Mercedes. Properly big fans that draw over 100 amps if you run them at full speed. I used an Attiny microcontroller to produce the 10Hz PWM signal needed to control the fan. I found that the fan only accepted PWM at 10Hz using my function generator. Any other frequency and it'd just run at full speed.

Baldur Gislason

baldur
12-12-2015, 02:21 PM #10

I built a controller for a Temic brushless fan out of a BMW a few years ago, I believe they are identical to what's found on some V8 Mercedes. Properly big fans that draw over 100 amps if you run them at full speed. I used an Attiny microcontroller to produce the 10Hz PWM signal needed to control the fan. I found that the fan only accepted PWM at 10Hz using my function generator. Any other frequency and it'd just run at full speed.


Baldur Gislason

tgg416
K26-2

38
12-12-2015, 03:24 PM #11
Why not just buy one from summit racing ?

Gwagen 460, om606.962. 722.6 Ole Fejer controller++
Gwagen 463, shitty 603,,,,at the moment,,,
Gwagen 463, 270cdi
tgg416
12-12-2015, 03:24 PM #11

Why not just buy one from summit racing ?


Gwagen 460, om606.962. 722.6 Ole Fejer controller++
Gwagen 463, shitty 603,,,,at the moment,,,
Gwagen 463, 270cdi

mcwfxx
K26-2

37
12-12-2015, 04:52 PM #12
(12-12-2015, 03:24 PM)tgg416 Why not just buy one from summit racing ?

Life on a budget Wink

---
W639 Vito OM606 + 722.6 STD - in progress

Current progress: engine in, gearbox in, bumper bar modified to accept w210 radiator, audi electric fan, very tight squeeze, interior stripped out ready for new seats (w211) and custom dash with w211 clocks controlled by arduino with split fuel gauge covering main tank and auxiliary for Veg Oil ...

- DSL1 ECU for Electronic OM606 Pump (currently fitting wiring)
Next; 722.6 Controller, HX40 with homemade manifold, Air-to-water intercooler, homemade exhaust, MOT.... One day!



mcwfxx
12-12-2015, 04:52 PM #12

(12-12-2015, 03:24 PM)tgg416 Why not just buy one from summit racing ?

Life on a budget Wink


---
W639 Vito OM606 + 722.6 STD - in progress

Current progress: engine in, gearbox in, bumper bar modified to accept w210 radiator, audi electric fan, very tight squeeze, interior stripped out ready for new seats (w211) and custom dash with w211 clocks controlled by arduino with split fuel gauge covering main tank and auxiliary for Veg Oil ...

- DSL1 ECU for Electronic OM606 Pump (currently fitting wiring)
Next; 722.6 Controller, HX40 with homemade manifold, Air-to-water intercooler, homemade exhaust, MOT.... One day!



Evenglass
GT2256V

149
12-12-2015, 07:50 PM #13
(12-12-2015, 03:24 PM)tgg416 Why not just buy one from summit racing ?

The AutoCool is $125 vs. The next cheapest on Summit being $198. The AutoCool appears to be better built and Daryl the owner provides exceptional support and 1 year warranty.
Evenglass
12-12-2015, 07:50 PM #13

(12-12-2015, 03:24 PM)tgg416 Why not just buy one from summit racing ?

The AutoCool is $125 vs. The next cheapest on Summit being $198. The AutoCool appears to be better built and Daryl the owner provides exceptional support and 1 year warranty.

m1tch
GT2559V

199
12-14-2015, 03:16 AM #14
I am just using a thermoswitch on my electric fan - I have replaced the basically useless fans and fitted aftermarket fans instead.
m1tch
12-14-2015, 03:16 AM #14

I am just using a thermoswitch on my electric fan - I have replaced the basically useless fans and fitted aftermarket fans instead.

jupel
Naturally-aspirated

12
02-05-2018, 03:54 PM #15
(03-21-2013, 12:12 PM)DiseaselWeasel Hi!

I'm looking for a way to controll a auxilliary fan from a W202 or W210. I found this: http://www.ma-uav.com/FanController.html which does exactelly what I want it to do - temp.sensitive controll of the fan speed.

[edit] all fine. They'r releasing a new version right now. I'll wait for it and buy that. Smile

like this?
https://www.drive2.ru/l/490494887003685107/
jupel
02-05-2018, 03:54 PM #15

(03-21-2013, 12:12 PM)DiseaselWeasel Hi!

I'm looking for a way to controll a auxilliary fan from a W202 or W210. I found this: http://www.ma-uav.com/FanController.html which does exactelly what I want it to do - temp.sensitive controll of the fan speed.

[edit] all fine. They'r releasing a new version right now. I'll wait for it and buy that. Smile

like this?
https://www.drive2.ru/l/490494887003685107/

 
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