STD Tuning Drivetrain Getrag 717.411 inspection

Getrag 717.411 inspection

Getrag 717.411 inspection

 
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Joaquin Suave
K26-2

44
01-20-2013, 12:39 PM #1
I just bought a Getrag 717.411 from a local junkyard. It was in a 109E 2.3l and was really grimy. I've cleaned it up and about to drain the oil to see if there are any chunks in the oil.

Other than that is there any other way to inspect the trans ( like inspection ports)?
This post was last modified: 01-20-2013, 12:39 PM by Joaquin Suave.
Joaquin Suave
01-20-2013, 12:39 PM #1

I just bought a Getrag 717.411 from a local junkyard. It was in a 109E 2.3l and was really grimy. I've cleaned it up and about to drain the oil to see if there are any chunks in the oil.

Other than that is there any other way to inspect the trans ( like inspection ports)?

Druk
Holset

297
01-20-2013, 03:30 PM #2
Did you take the shift lever and rods with it? I have a 717.412 and a 717.450 here and the levers and rods are completely different. Best to get the lever that goes with the box.
This post was last modified: 01-20-2013, 03:30 PM by Druk.
Druk
01-20-2013, 03:30 PM #2

Did you take the shift lever and rods with it? I have a 717.412 and a 717.450 here and the levers and rods are completely different. Best to get the lever that goes with the box.

5spd617
Naturally-aspirated

13
01-20-2013, 04:27 PM #3
(01-20-2013, 12:39 PM)Joaquin Suave I just bought a Getrag 717.411 from a local junkyard. It was in a 109E 2.3l and was really grimy. I've cleaned it up and about to drain the oil to see if there are any chunks in the oil.

Other than that is there any other way to inspect the trans ( like inspection ports)?

what are you going to put it in

i put that one in my 300sd
5spd617
01-20-2013, 04:27 PM #3

(01-20-2013, 12:39 PM)Joaquin Suave I just bought a Getrag 717.411 from a local junkyard. It was in a 109E 2.3l and was really grimy. I've cleaned it up and about to drain the oil to see if there are any chunks in the oil.

Other than that is there any other way to inspect the trans ( like inspection ports)?

what are you going to put it in

i put that one in my 300sd

Joaquin Suave
K26-2

44
01-20-2013, 04:58 PM #4
Thanks for the replies guys...

Druk: I got the whole "shooting match"... Trans, links, shifter, brake and clutch assembly (with clutch master cylinder) for 225 euros. The donor had only 160k miles. the junkyard had no clue of what it was... SCORE Big Grin

5spd617: I'm not quite sure. Maybe my 87 300tdt "german pickup truck", or I might mary it to one of my "spare" OM603 motors and put into... Something????

I SURE WOULD LIKE an evaluation process though?!?!?! Confused
Joaquin Suave
01-20-2013, 04:58 PM #4

Thanks for the replies guys...

Druk: I got the whole "shooting match"... Trans, links, shifter, brake and clutch assembly (with clutch master cylinder) for 225 euros. The donor had only 160k miles. the junkyard had no clue of what it was... SCORE Big Grin

5spd617: I'm not quite sure. Maybe my 87 300tdt "german pickup truck", or I might mary it to one of my "spare" OM603 motors and put into... Something????

I SURE WOULD LIKE an evaluation process though?!?!?! Confused

Druk
Holset

297
01-20-2013, 06:04 PM #5
(01-20-2013, 04:58 PM)Joaquin Suave Thanks for the replies guys...

Druk: I got the whole "shooting match"... Trans, links, shifter, brake and clutch assembly (with clutch master cylinder) for 225 euros. The donor had only 160k miles. the junkyard had no clue of what it was... SCORE Big Grin

Good result. Hope you also took the flywheel??
Druk
01-20-2013, 06:04 PM #5

(01-20-2013, 04:58 PM)Joaquin Suave Thanks for the replies guys...

Druk: I got the whole "shooting match"... Trans, links, shifter, brake and clutch assembly (with clutch master cylinder) for 225 euros. The donor had only 160k miles. the junkyard had no clue of what it was... SCORE Big Grin

Good result. Hope you also took the flywheel??

Joaquin Suave
K26-2

44
01-20-2013, 06:12 PM #6
(01-20-2013, 06:04 PM)Druk
(01-20-2013, 04:58 PM)Joaquin Suave Thanks for the replies guys...

Druk: I got the whole "shooting match"... Trans, links, shifter, brake and clutch assembly (with clutch master cylinder) for 225 euros. The donor had only 160k miles. the junkyard had no clue of what it was... SCORE Big Grin

Good result. Hope you also took the flywheel??

Here is the "booty" Big Grin
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Joaquin Suave
01-20-2013, 06:12 PM #6

(01-20-2013, 06:04 PM)Druk
(01-20-2013, 04:58 PM)Joaquin Suave Thanks for the replies guys...

Druk: I got the whole "shooting match"... Trans, links, shifter, brake and clutch assembly (with clutch master cylinder) for 225 euros. The donor had only 160k miles. the junkyard had no clue of what it was... SCORE Big Grin

Good result. Hope you also took the flywheel??

Here is the "booty" Big Grin

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aaa
GT2256V

913
01-20-2013, 10:57 PM #7
Turn the input and output shafts and run it thru the gears by hand. Should spot issues like a seized shaft or bad thrust bearings causing it not stay in gear. Not sure how to test the synchros by hand though.
aaa
01-20-2013, 10:57 PM #7

Turn the input and output shafts and run it thru the gears by hand. Should spot issues like a seized shaft or bad thrust bearings causing it not stay in gear. Not sure how to test the synchros by hand though.

charmalu
GTA2056V

99
01-21-2013, 12:17 AM #8
If you can find a copy of the Haynes manual for the 190E 1984 - 1988, there is a great section on the 5-spd manual transmission. Shows the complete break down and assembly.

Don`t know if it is still available or not. I got my copy at a Swap meet . I some times see them in used book stores.

This manual make the one they did for the w123 pretty pathetic.


Charlie
This post was last modified: 01-21-2013, 12:18 AM by charmalu.
charmalu
01-21-2013, 12:17 AM #8

If you can find a copy of the Haynes manual for the 190E 1984 - 1988, there is a great section on the 5-spd manual transmission. Shows the complete break down and assembly.

Don`t know if it is still available or not. I got my copy at a Swap meet . I some times see them in used book stores.

This manual make the one they did for the w123 pretty pathetic.


Charlie

 
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