Ford Transit 1980 with a supercharged Mercedes 606
Ford Transit 1980 with a supercharged Mercedes 606
Hi
I have finally started my new project. It is going to be a Ford Transit(German) 1980 2.4 diesel with ca 65hp. I have always been a ford enthusiast but unfortunately they don,t make any quality diesel engines. Since I am also a Mercedes enthusiast, I have decided that I am going to put a E300 TD 606.920 engine in it. I consider that the best engine Mercedes have ever made.
I bought the car in the north of Norway and the shortest way back home to the south part was trough Finland and Sweden. the trip took me 3 days each way
Here is the original engine
Now it is gone
With some cutting, it looks like the 606 is going to fit
sweet project!
I am planning too use a Roush supercharger so I am going to need more fuel.
Here is the standard electronically controlled injection pump still installed. I don't like electronics that much so it has to go.
This is the new pump I am going to use, 603 TD IP with Tomniks 7.5 mm floyd elements and larger delivery valves. PP diesel in Finland did the pump modifying job and I am very happy with their service
This is the Roush supercharger. Got it for a good price on Ebay, but it is still in USA so I have to go there this winter to pick it up.
Very cool project! My dad had a few of these Transits some years ago, not too quick as stock. I have followed one finnish Transit-project, he still has stock York engine. With Holset HY40V and 140cc inline pump Waiting for results of both projects now!
http://s236.photobucket.com/albums/ff147...0Supervan/
Thank you MJF for that info
No work on the Transit now, I am trying to learn how to weld aluminum with Oxy and acetylene. it is very difficult Maybe I will ask a friend to weld the aluminum or buy a TIG.
Here are a few more photos: http://s1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee51...des%20606/
Please buy a TIG or a spool gun for a MIG.... Much better results all around. TIG gives less distortion & leads to less final machining.
Ed
This is awesome! Hello hauling stuff lol
Thanks for invitation Winmutt, but I think a trip from LA to Atlanta will be long, even in a Mercedes Taxi I normally visit California on my trips, I like the climate and scenery.
I just started the engine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lix5pRuxzbk
Everything works fine and I am very happy with the pump from PP diesel(Finland) The engine idles fine and the exhaust pressure is equal and has the same temperature at each cylinder. I think that is a quite good indicator that the pump is well adjusted for timing and fuel amount on each cylinder.
(09-20-2011, 02:04 PM)erling66 I have always been a ford enthusiast but unfortunately they don,t make any quality diesel engines.
ooohhhh, how did I miss this thread!?
Can't wait to see this in action
(09-20-2011, 02:04 PM)erling66 I have always been a ford enthusiast but unfortunately they don,t make any quality diesel engines.
Yes I know that the 7.3 ford V8 diesel engine is great but I believe that International Harvester made that engine. Same situation with Dodge, the use Cummins engines and Chevy use Isuzu engines now.
Some update: I just mounted the 606 na manifolds. It may seams strange that I take off the turbo, but I will try the engine first with the supercharger only. Maybe I will combine it with a turbo later. The stock turbo and manifold is too small anyway so off it goes
navistar = international harvester
what is the rust situation on that van? it looks very clean! Are there any clearance issues with the steering mechanism?
(10-06-2011, 02:48 PM)dropnosky navistar = international harvester
what is the rust situation on that van? it looks very clean! Are there any clearance issues with the steering mechanism?
(10-06-2011, 02:48 PM)dropnosky navistar = international harvester
what is the rust situation on that van? it looks very clean! Are there any clearance issues with the steering mechanism?
(10-07-2011, 03:19 AM)erling66 In Norway we have winter almost half of the year so lots of cars are very rusty after ca 15 years. Luckily this car has been taken well care of so it has very little rust.
I will fabricate a new intake manifold so I will have clearance enough. But there is a steering rod(don't know the right English word) going from left to right side that I will have to modify so it will fit the engine oil tray.
(10-07-2011, 03:19 AM)erling66 In Norway we have winter almost half of the year so lots of cars are very rusty after ca 15 years. Luckily this car has been taken well care of so it has very little rust.
I will fabricate a new intake manifold so I will have clearance enough. But there is a steering rod(don't know the right English word) going from left to right side that I will have to modify so it will fit the engine oil tray.
(09-21-2011, 11:55 AM)MJF Very cool project! My dad had a few of these Transits some years ago, not too quick as stock. I have followed one finnish Transit-project, he still has stock York engine. With Holset HY40V and 140cc inline pump Waiting for results of both projects now!
http://s236.photobucket.com/albums/ff147...0Supervan/
It´s alive!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWhrCILMIdo
(09-21-2011, 11:55 AM)MJF Very cool project! My dad had a few of these Transits some years ago, not too quick as stock. I have followed one finnish Transit-project, he still has stock York engine. With Holset HY40V and 140cc inline pump Waiting for results of both projects now!
http://s236.photobucket.com/albums/ff147...0Supervan/
dayum!
That van video is awesomely funny!
(11-14-2011, 01:25 AM)Captain America That van video is awesomely funny!
(11-14-2011, 01:25 AM)Captain America That van video is awesomely funny!
I just got a 300E(gasoline) clutch. It is 240mm diameter so I will try it and see how long it will last. I couldn't find a 300E flywheel so I used a 250D 602 FW and machined it up to the 240mm disc. I think they will work together ok. Next problem is to make the 6 speed transmission fit since it has the shorter axle. I am planning to shorten the transmission housing.
Thanks everyone for great links to other Transits.
Dropnosky; I will post photos of the steering mod when I start with it.
I got my solid mass flywheel from sprinter and and it is set up for the shorter input shaft it was designed to replace the dule mass Flywheel I found it on eBay in Europe it is 240mm I think?
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/show...418&page=2
(09-21-2011, 01:26 AM)erling66 I am planning too use a Roush supercharger so I am going to need more fuel.
Here is the standard electronically controlled injection pump still installed. I don't like electronics that much so it has to go.
This is the new pump I am going to use, 603 TD IP with Tomniks 7.5 mm floyd elements and larger delivery valves. PP diesel in Finland did the pump modifying job and I am very happy with their service
This is the Roush supercharger. Got it for a good price on Ebay, but it is still in USA so I have to go there this winter to pick it up.
(09-21-2011, 01:26 AM)erling66 I am planning too use a Roush supercharger so I am going to need more fuel.
Here is the standard electronically controlled injection pump still installed. I don't like electronics that much so it has to go.
This is the new pump I am going to use, 603 TD IP with Tomniks 7.5 mm floyd elements and larger delivery valves. PP diesel in Finland did the pump modifying job and I am very happy with their service
This is the Roush supercharger. Got it for a good price on Ebay, but it is still in USA so I have to go there this winter to pick it up.
(12-16-2011, 05:02 PM)vilsaa(09-21-2011, 01:26 AM)erling66 I am planning too use a Roush supercharger so I am going to need more fuel.
Here is the standard electronically controlled injection pump still installed. I don't like electronics that much so it has to go.
This is the new pump I am going to use, 603 TD IP with Tomniks 7.5 mm floyd elements and larger delivery valves. PP diesel in Finland did the pump modifying job and I am very happy with their service
This is the Roush supercharger. Got it for a good price on Ebay, but it is still in USA so I have to go there this winter to pick it up.
Is this a Twinsqrew or roots?
I have similar project with w124. My supercharger is AMG S55 twinsqrew. I have also thought that I will try that engine with supercharger only at first. I'm very curious about how your car will work. Just waiting for some more pics and specs. Good luck with your project. May the Force be with you
(12-16-2011, 05:02 PM)vilsaa(09-21-2011, 01:26 AM)erling66 I am planning too use a Roush supercharger so I am going to need more fuel.
Here is the standard electronically controlled injection pump still installed. I don't like electronics that much so it has to go.
This is the new pump I am going to use, 603 TD IP with Tomniks 7.5 mm floyd elements and larger delivery valves. PP diesel in Finland did the pump modifying job and I am very happy with their service
This is the Roush supercharger. Got it for a good price on Ebay, but it is still in USA so I have to go there this winter to pick it up.
Is this a Twinsqrew or roots?
I have similar project with w124. My supercharger is AMG S55 twinsqrew. I have also thought that I will try that engine with supercharger only at first. I'm very curious about how your car will work. Just waiting for some more pics and specs. Good luck with your project. May the Force be with you
The clutch is in place and the box is welded and mounted on the engine Everything seams fine so far but the real test will come when I start to drive it.
I can not have the gear shifter at that location(it will be behind me so I have to move it ca 40 cm forward.
Now I am ready to install the engine and transmission. Find out where I want it, and make engine mounts.
Sometimes I say to myself: Why did I start this project? It is a never ending project But if I don't give up, I will have a faaaaast diesel supervan
Superturbodiesel-Supervan .... I like the sound of that!
How many cut out of the boxhousing? Dont fit the box 1to1 on the engine? Is this korrekt, u only cut it because the singlemass flyweel? If u have dual it fit in the bearing from shaft.
(01-07-2012, 05:01 AM)hansebanger77 How many cut out of the boxhousing? Dont fit the box 1to1 on the engine? Is this korrekt, u only cut it because the singlemass flyweel? If u have dual it fit in the bearing from shaft.
(01-07-2012, 05:01 AM)hansebanger77 How many cut out of the boxhousing? Dont fit the box 1to1 on the engine? Is this korrekt, u only cut it because the singlemass flyweel? If u have dual it fit in the bearing from shaft.
Thx is this now 716 361? I could get a 716 604 ore 654 dont know it can hold the power longer than 5 speed
I have finally decided where to put the engine. Up, down, forward, backward and tilting of the engine, many things to consider. And I have made transmission and engine mounts. It is the first time I have welded aluminum, so they are not pretty but hopefully strong enough The good thing about putting the engine in a van is that you have lots of space on the sides and on top of the engine for turbo, supercharger, intercooler and tubing. But first I will make the hydraulic clutch, gear shifter and propeller shaft.
To hansebanger77: the transmission is 716.640 from E220CDI
(02-05-2012, 07:16 PM)zeeman Very nice installation, wish we had the IP service you have in Finland in the US.
(02-05-2012, 07:16 PM)zeeman Very nice installation, wish we had the IP service you have in Finland in the US.
I just finished the clutch installation and it works fine with a medium soft pedal. I used a master cylinder from a w124 250d and connected it to the throwout bearing cylinder that came with the 6 speed box.
On 29'th of Feb I am going to California so I have a few questions to the members that live there: Are there going to be any drag race with diesel cars the next 2 weeks? And I am planning to buy a 300sd 1981-1983 with no rust and nice leather interior(not blue or tan), anyone has one for sale? PM me.
I made a propeller shaft with parts from the W210 E300 automatic. I cut off the back and welded it to the transit shaft. Hope it will work fine? As you can see, I don't care about finish now, probably many things will have to be modified and when everything works, then it is time to try to make it look good
Now I have started to install the supercharger, I think I found a good place for it
I have started to make the intake. The stock didn't fit in the car but I didn't like it any way so It had to be modified I hope the new intake will flow equally well on all cylinders. I haven't decided yet if it will be a single or dual plenum. Maybe I will try to flow test it before it is finish.
I have finally started to work on my Transit/mercedes project again
The 6 speed box came with the original shifter but I could not put it in the position it was meant to be. The Transit has no tunnel and there is a seat in the center of the car so the shifter had to be moved up and to the side. That meant some modifications with new linkage. Here are a few photos with what I made. It works ok but I need to drive the car to see if it needs further modification so I will wait with finishing touch.
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Oh I like it!!!
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
I just found this
I know rust makes the car faster, less weight but still, I don't like it so it has to go. So Now the car will be stripped down, sand basted, welded and painted everywhere. Lots of job, but I will do everything myself so it will not be so expensive
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Gah!!! Shouldn't be too bad, just time consuming. I like the radiator and new intake. This makes me want to supercharge a motor
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
I got an aftermarket fly wheel for a sprinter that is a single mass flywheel designed to replace the duel mass flywheel so it fits the stock transmission with out shortening it. It also a 9.5 inch disc!
I found it in the U.K. there are some pics half way down this page
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/thre...age-2.html
Interesting conversion. I went the opposite way in a past life maybe 15 or so years ago. Took the slightly later Transit 2.5Di engine and Laycock overdrive box and slotted it into a Volvo 240 estate. No turbo on that engine at the time but it went very well and pulled a heavy caravan all over Europe. It did about 40 (UK) mpg.
Derek.
I have decided to strip the whole car and sand blast it So I started a few days ago. And this is my progress so far
I am not able to take off the last two windows. They are the type that can be opened in the back. Maybe someone have taken them off?
Next step is to take off engine, trans and axles. I like these old Transits, so easy to work on
I hope you repaint it the green color that's an awesome color!
(03-20-2013, 03:57 PM)willbhere4u I hope you repaint it the green color that's an awesome color!