STD Tuning Engine NA vs turbo ip. om617

NA vs turbo ip. om617

NA vs turbo ip. om617

 
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rolfi
My 300D is Onion-yellow!

79
08-16-2011, 05:09 AM #1
hello.

on my turbo engine i use the m pump from a NA 300D. I currently run standard 300D NA settings on it.

can the pump from a NA be tuned as much as the turbo ip? what are the drawbacks of running the NA one?

I have googled, but didn't find anything about it.hello.

on my turbo engine i use the m pump from a NA 300D. I currently run standard 300D NA settings on it.

can the pump from a NA be tuned as much as the turbo ip? what are the drawbacks of running the NA one?

I have googled, but didn't find anything about it.






-rolfi

1980 Mercedes-Benz 300D (US-spec)
+BMW E12, E21, E28, E30 and E32
rolfi
08-16-2011, 05:09 AM #1

hello.

on my turbo engine i use the m pump from a NA 300D. I currently run standard 300D NA settings on it.

can the pump from a NA be tuned as much as the turbo ip? what are the drawbacks of running the NA one?

I have googled, but didn't find anything about it.hello.

on my turbo engine i use the m pump from a NA 300D. I currently run standard 300D NA settings on it.

can the pump from a NA be tuned as much as the turbo ip? what are the drawbacks of running the NA one?

I have googled, but didn't find anything about it.






-rolfi

1980 Mercedes-Benz 300D (US-spec)
+BMW E12, E21, E28, E30 and E32

300D50
Graphite Moderator, ala RBMK

775
08-16-2011, 11:05 AM #2
Same innards, you just don't have the ALDA, only an ADA.

You'll get high altitude correction to limit smoking caused by changes in ambient air pressure, but nothing related to boost.
You can swap an ALDA over if you want to, but it's not required, all you have to do is use the accelerator to keep the smoke in check.

The pumps can be tuned the same.

1990 Power Ram 50 V6 SOHC 24V 6g72

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300D50
08-16-2011, 11:05 AM #2

Same innards, you just don't have the ALDA, only an ADA.

You'll get high altitude correction to limit smoking caused by changes in ambient air pressure, but nothing related to boost.
You can swap an ALDA over if you want to, but it's not required, all you have to do is use the accelerator to keep the smoke in check.

The pumps can be tuned the same.


1990 Power Ram 50 V6 SOHC 24V 6g72

I can be wrong, don't take everything I say as verbatim, please fact-check first.
My posts are my personal opinions and thoughts, unless otherwise noted.

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
08-16-2011, 02:13 PM #3
ForcedInduction did this with his M pump.

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
08-16-2011, 02:13 PM #3

ForcedInduction did this with his M pump.


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

Riverstick
GT2256V

114
08-17-2011, 02:56 AM #4
We turbocharged and intercooled a N/A OM617 27 or 28 years ago and fitted it to a W116 chassis....it was a very sucessful project. We used a Janspeed kit and the engine made abut 140/150bhp. We used the original N/A injector pump...the only change Janspeed instructed us to do was to increase the fuel delivery by 12.5%...A local diesel shop at the time did this and the engine performed magnificently....no smoking issues and great performance....well... great performance in 1983/1984 anyway!
This post was last modified: 08-17-2011, 02:57 AM by Riverstick.

" It is far easier to get forgiveness rather than permission"
Riverstick
08-17-2011, 02:56 AM #4

We turbocharged and intercooled a N/A OM617 27 or 28 years ago and fitted it to a W116 chassis....it was a very sucessful project. We used a Janspeed kit and the engine made abut 140/150bhp. We used the original N/A injector pump...the only change Janspeed instructed us to do was to increase the fuel delivery by 12.5%...A local diesel shop at the time did this and the engine performed magnificently....no smoking issues and great performance....well... great performance in 1983/1984 anyway!


" It is far easier to get forgiveness rather than permission"

HoleshotHolset
Holset

379
08-18-2011, 06:42 AM #5
Good thread!

I was thinking about this yesterday at work - wondering if it really was that simple. I have a seemingly good pump on an NA OM606 and that engine/pump is going to be removed to fit a turbo OM606...so I could run the NA pump with the turbo and just crank the pump up. Very cool. Thanks!

Beers,

Matt

'07 W211 OM642
'95 W124.131/722.435, 211k - daily driver/Superturbo project - OM606.962 with "M" pump...under construction! (build thread here)
'99 W210.025 - gone, but not forgotten
'94 Dodge/Cummins - gone, but not forgotten
HoleshotHolset
08-18-2011, 06:42 AM #5

Good thread!

I was thinking about this yesterday at work - wondering if it really was that simple. I have a seemingly good pump on an NA OM606 and that engine/pump is going to be removed to fit a turbo OM606...so I could run the NA pump with the turbo and just crank the pump up. Very cool. Thanks!

Beers,

Matt


'07 W211 OM642
'95 W124.131/722.435, 211k - daily driver/Superturbo project - OM606.962 with "M" pump...under construction! (build thread here)
'99 W210.025 - gone, but not forgotten
'94 Dodge/Cummins - gone, but not forgotten

 
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