Found on Jalopnik. Drifting W123 Wagon
Found on Jalopnik. Drifting W123 Wagon
(09-23-2010, 08:15 AM)MadMaxW126 http://jalopnik.com/5644267/building-a-d...rift-racer
Quote:Building A Diesel-Powered Mercedes Station Wagon Drift Racer
By Ben Wojdyla
Building A Diesel-Powered Mercedes Station Wagon Drift RacerTeemu Peltola is a Finnish drift racer. In his second competitive year he's built one of the most unique cars ever to enter the series, a diesel-powered 1981 Mercedes station wagon. He's also taken time to tell us about it.
When we included video of Peltola doing his thing in a badass Mercedes-Benz Station wagon in our list of Ten Awesome Drift Videos, we didn't think we'd be getting an email from the guy.
However, apparently Jalopnik's kind of a big deal in Finland and he heard about our coverage so now we can tell you all about this mad man and his mad Benz.
Building A Diesel-Powered Mercedes Station Wagon Drift Racer
Peltola likes drifting. He's also quite good at it. 2009 was his first year of racing in the Extreme Drift Challenge — he won his class. In his second year he headed for the Pro class and decided he needed a new car and just another built-up Japanese racer wouldn't do. See, Peltola's a Mercedes man and a bit of a builder. He tells us "First of all, I thought to build a Supra IV with a Mercedes diesel engine, but I didn't want to do that because everyone is driving Japanese cars, of course it would have been easier to build from a Japanese car because you can get much more aftermarket parts for them."
But that didn't stop him, he says, "I really wanted to build a w123 wagon, but is there any sense to build a car where you can't really use anything original? The answer is NO, but I really wanted to do a good drifting car from a w123 wagon, so I decided to do it!!" When he found this unassuming 1981 Mercedes-Benz 300D Estate, the game was on.
Building A Diesel-Powered Mercedes Station Wagon Drift Racer
Rather than stick with the stock 3.0-liter diesel from 1981, Peltola picked up a 3.0-liter 24-valve diesel from a 1998 Mercedes E-class. With that as a starting point, he fabricated a new intake manifold, installed a much bigger Garrett GT40 turbo from a Scania heavy truck pushing 36 PSI, a new diesel pump and home-made intercooler. A bell housing adapter was made to fit a Tremec TKO 600 transmission to the engine and power was routed to a Mercedes rear axle. Unfortunately that axle didn't survive the first race, so now there's an Toyota Aristo rear axle (Lexus GS to US readers) fitted.
Don't think for a second that's the end of the insane hackery here. The factory suspension was in no way up to the task of drifting, so the rear suspension from a Mazda RX8 modified with coil overs was fitted. According to Peltola, "The hardest was to fit whole Aristo front axle, I think I worked 2 or 3 weeks with it," he said, "Mounting the rear axle was not so hard, but it took some hours too." Steering comes from salvaged Volvo parts and lend a nearly sickening turning angle.
The result is The Diesel Drifter. One of the baddest mad wagons ever. Power? Well "I have not had it on a dyno, but last year I drove a Mercedes Benz 190 (W201) with an OM603, 3.0 12-valve turbodiesel and it made 414-hp and 704Nm (520 lb-ft). So maybe I have like 450Hp and 750Nm (553 lb-ft). But I have plans to build it with two turbos, so I will get more power, I hope it will go to 500hp and 850Nm (626 lb-ft)." We like those plans.
Building A Diesel-Powered Mercedes Station Wagon Drift Racer
So far Peltola's been competing strong in the Pro class, though it's a fair bit tougher than his last go-round. He's finished well in the middle to the top of the pack, placing as high as 3rd, at the X-treme Pro Drifting Trophy, but for now, he's just sorting his car and getting used to the big leagues. When we asked what his competition thinks of his bitchin' new ride, Peltola only says "I dont know, maybe I'll have to ask!"
(09-23-2010, 08:15 AM)MadMaxW126 http://jalopnik.com/5644267/building-a-d...rift-racer
Quote:Building A Diesel-Powered Mercedes Station Wagon Drift Racer
By Ben Wojdyla
Building A Diesel-Powered Mercedes Station Wagon Drift RacerTeemu Peltola is a Finnish drift racer. In his second competitive year he's built one of the most unique cars ever to enter the series, a diesel-powered 1981 Mercedes station wagon. He's also taken time to tell us about it.
When we included video of Peltola doing his thing in a badass Mercedes-Benz Station wagon in our list of Ten Awesome Drift Videos, we didn't think we'd be getting an email from the guy.
However, apparently Jalopnik's kind of a big deal in Finland and he heard about our coverage so now we can tell you all about this mad man and his mad Benz.
Building A Diesel-Powered Mercedes Station Wagon Drift Racer
Peltola likes drifting. He's also quite good at it. 2009 was his first year of racing in the Extreme Drift Challenge — he won his class. In his second year he headed for the Pro class and decided he needed a new car and just another built-up Japanese racer wouldn't do. See, Peltola's a Mercedes man and a bit of a builder. He tells us "First of all, I thought to build a Supra IV with a Mercedes diesel engine, but I didn't want to do that because everyone is driving Japanese cars, of course it would have been easier to build from a Japanese car because you can get much more aftermarket parts for them."
But that didn't stop him, he says, "I really wanted to build a w123 wagon, but is there any sense to build a car where you can't really use anything original? The answer is NO, but I really wanted to do a good drifting car from a w123 wagon, so I decided to do it!!" When he found this unassuming 1981 Mercedes-Benz 300D Estate, the game was on.
Building A Diesel-Powered Mercedes Station Wagon Drift Racer
Rather than stick with the stock 3.0-liter diesel from 1981, Peltola picked up a 3.0-liter 24-valve diesel from a 1998 Mercedes E-class. With that as a starting point, he fabricated a new intake manifold, installed a much bigger Garrett GT40 turbo from a Scania heavy truck pushing 36 PSI, a new diesel pump and home-made intercooler. A bell housing adapter was made to fit a Tremec TKO 600 transmission to the engine and power was routed to a Mercedes rear axle. Unfortunately that axle didn't survive the first race, so now there's an Toyota Aristo rear axle (Lexus GS to US readers) fitted.
Don't think for a second that's the end of the insane hackery here. The factory suspension was in no way up to the task of drifting, so the rear suspension from a Mazda RX8 modified with coil overs was fitted. According to Peltola, "The hardest was to fit whole Aristo front axle, I think I worked 2 or 3 weeks with it," he said, "Mounting the rear axle was not so hard, but it took some hours too." Steering comes from salvaged Volvo parts and lend a nearly sickening turning angle.
The result is The Diesel Drifter. One of the baddest mad wagons ever. Power? Well "I have not had it on a dyno, but last year I drove a Mercedes Benz 190 (W201) with an OM603, 3.0 12-valve turbodiesel and it made 414-hp and 704Nm (520 lb-ft). So maybe I have like 450Hp and 750Nm (553 lb-ft). But I have plans to build it with two turbos, so I will get more power, I hope it will go to 500hp and 850Nm (626 lb-ft)." We like those plans.
Building A Diesel-Powered Mercedes Station Wagon Drift Racer
So far Peltola's been competing strong in the Pro class, though it's a fair bit tougher than his last go-round. He's finished well in the middle to the top of the pack, placing as high as 3rd, at the X-treme Pro Drifting Trophy, but for now, he's just sorting his car and getting used to the big leagues. When we asked what his competition thinks of his bitchin' new ride, Peltola only says "I dont know, maybe I'll have to ask!"
Id love to know how he is handling the clutch, using stock pedals, adapted something? Video of that car is amazing. Also what he's done with the rear end sounds incredible. Looks like the MB rear end will only take so much!
(09-23-2010, 11:15 PM)DeliveryValve Hey Rudolf, he has a Tremec...
(09-23-2010, 11:15 PM)DeliveryValve Hey Rudolf, he has a Tremec...
(09-27-2010, 09:36 PM)Rudolf_Diesel ....
I thought about sizing up a Mustang IRS diff - it has LSD to boot.
(09-27-2010, 09:36 PM)Rudolf_Diesel ....
I thought about sizing up a Mustang IRS diff - it has LSD to boot.
New video! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzJ5_j7te...grec_index
woaw. nice.. I'll try to search for new vids for this. got inspired to have a drift car project. anyways. I'm new here guys. I am dont with chatting and I think I am going to learn more in forums. though I can't find the introduction thread so I am just posting to other random thread that interests me.
(09-27-2010, 09:36 PM)Rudolf_DieselThat is leave on here(09-23-2010, 11:15 PM)DeliveryValve Hey Rudolf, he has a Tremec...
Very cool! The adpater plate is about the thickness I am using, but I wonder why he welded it? You can bolt up the MBZ bell housing to the adapter...My plate is much smaller, I guess he needed it bigger in order to weld it.
I thought about sizing up a Mustang IRS diff - it has LSD to boot.
(09-27-2010, 09:36 PM)Rudolf_DieselThat is leave on here(09-23-2010, 11:15 PM)DeliveryValve Hey Rudolf, he has a Tremec...
Very cool! The adpater plate is about the thickness I am using, but I wonder why he welded it? You can bolt up the MBZ bell housing to the adapter...My plate is much smaller, I guess he needed it bigger in order to weld it.
I thought about sizing up a Mustang IRS diff - it has LSD to boot.
(11-17-2010, 06:05 PM)jeemu(09-27-2010, 09:36 PM)Rudolf_DieselThat is leave on here(09-23-2010, 11:15 PM)DeliveryValve Hey Rudolf, he has a Tremec...
Very cool! The adpater plate is about the thickness I am using, but I wonder why he welded it? You can bolt up the MBZ bell housing to the adapter...My plate is much smaller, I guess he needed it bigger in order to weld it.
I thought about sizing up a Mustang IRS diff - it has LSD to boot.
I made four of those and one i sold on that Teemu s drifter.
Look pictures, so you understand why it is done that how it is done
http://kuvablogi.com/blog/6520/7/4/
(11-17-2010, 06:05 PM)jeemu(09-27-2010, 09:36 PM)Rudolf_DieselThat is leave on here(09-23-2010, 11:15 PM)DeliveryValve Hey Rudolf, he has a Tremec...
Very cool! The adpater plate is about the thickness I am using, but I wonder why he welded it? You can bolt up the MBZ bell housing to the adapter...My plate is much smaller, I guess he needed it bigger in order to weld it.
I thought about sizing up a Mustang IRS diff - it has LSD to boot.
I made four of those and one i sold on that Teemu s drifter.
Look pictures, so you understand why it is done that how it is done
http://kuvablogi.com/blog/6520/7/4/
New video great production! http://www.youtube.com/user/willbhere4u#...hxsN7HGo2Y
That is leave on here
I made four of those and one i sold on that Teemu s drifter.
Look pictures, so you understand why it is done that how it is done
http://kuvablogi.com/blog/6520/7/4/
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A couple questions about your tremec mating to the om606. I want to do the same but on a om603 engine.
What bellhousing did you use?
What else needs to be modified?
Thanks!
Hi. I cut it out w124 200d 4speed.
http://kuva1.kuvablogi.com/iso/img1823949.jpg
(11-21-2010, 12:19 PM)jeemu Hi. I cut it out w124 200d 4speed.
http://kuva1.kuvablogi.com/iso/img1823949.jpg
(11-21-2010, 12:19 PM)jeemu Hi. I cut it out w124 200d 4speed.
http://kuva1.kuvablogi.com/iso/img1823949.jpg
(11-21-2010, 01:02 PM)conski(11-21-2010, 12:19 PM)jeemu Hi. I cut it out w124 200d 4speed.
http://kuva1.kuvablogi.com/iso/img1823949.jpg
We don't have those in the U.S. but I'm sure I could get one off of a 300d.
Did you have to beef up the tremec at all or could it handle the power you wanted right out of the box?
I am thinking of using a t5 right now because it is readily available and fairly cheap. I want to mate it with a om603 that will be pushing 400hp. Let me know if you have any advice or tips on this set up.
Thanks Jeemu!
(11-21-2010, 01:02 PM)conski(11-21-2010, 12:19 PM)jeemu Hi. I cut it out w124 200d 4speed.
http://kuva1.kuvablogi.com/iso/img1823949.jpg
We don't have those in the U.S. but I'm sure I could get one off of a 300d.
Did you have to beef up the tremec at all or could it handle the power you wanted right out of the box?
I am thinking of using a t5 right now because it is readily available and fairly cheap. I want to mate it with a om603 that will be pushing 400hp. Let me know if you have any advice or tips on this set up.
Thanks Jeemu!