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Smallest Turbo...?

Smallest Turbo...?

 
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Alastair E
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05-17-2010, 11:40 AM #1
I have a 500cc twin-pot diesel car--Not M.B. I know, But thought with all the expertise here someone would know the smallest commercial 'normal'--ie not special build Turbocharger available...?

Out of curiosity, the car is an Aixam and has a 500cc two-cyl. Kubota engine....

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Alastair E
05-17-2010, 11:40 AM #1

I have a 500cc twin-pot diesel car--Not M.B. I know, But thought with all the expertise here someone would know the smallest commercial 'normal'--ie not special build Turbocharger available...?

Out of curiosity, the car is an Aixam and has a 500cc two-cyl. Kubota engine....


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E300TSC
Turbo-Supercharged

321
05-17-2010, 01:48 PM #2
The little KKK turbo from the 97-99 E Klass OM606 would probably work. Otherwise, a Garrett GT12 is a microscopic little turbo that would be cool but it's REALLY expensive for it's size...

1998 MB E300 - 194,000 miles. Current/future mods: 7.5mm pump elements, Holset HX40 Turbo feeding Eaton M90 supercharger through custom fabbed intake system. Aeroturbine muffler, scratch-built 4" stainless exhaust. EGR eliminated, ECM recalibrated, modified rack position feedback circuit. Porterfield RS brake pads, Bilstein sport shocks, VDO EGT, oil and boost gauges.

2000 Ford F250 - 150,000 miles. Current/future mods: DP Tuner 3 map chip, scratch-built high flow intake, high output IDM, open circuit fuel system, ball bearing turbo, South Bend full metal clutch, slotted and drilled rotors. Autometer Sport Comp EGT and boost gauges.
E300TSC
05-17-2010, 01:48 PM #2

The little KKK turbo from the 97-99 E Klass OM606 would probably work. Otherwise, a Garrett GT12 is a microscopic little turbo that would be cool but it's REALLY expensive for it's size...


1998 MB E300 - 194,000 miles. Current/future mods: 7.5mm pump elements, Holset HX40 Turbo feeding Eaton M90 supercharger through custom fabbed intake system. Aeroturbine muffler, scratch-built 4" stainless exhaust. EGR eliminated, ECM recalibrated, modified rack position feedback circuit. Porterfield RS brake pads, Bilstein sport shocks, VDO EGT, oil and boost gauges.

2000 Ford F250 - 150,000 miles. Current/future mods: DP Tuner 3 map chip, scratch-built high flow intake, high output IDM, open circuit fuel system, ball bearing turbo, South Bend full metal clutch, slotted and drilled rotors. Autometer Sport Comp EGT and boost gauges.

DeliveryValve
Superturbo

1,338
05-17-2010, 03:20 PM #3
(05-17-2010, 01:48 PM)E300TSC .... a Garrett GT12 is a microscopic little turbo that would be cool but it's REALLY expensive for it's size...

You can probably get away with a GT15. They are physically small, plentiful and cheap.


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Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



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DeliveryValve
05-17-2010, 03:20 PM #3

(05-17-2010, 01:48 PM)E300TSC .... a Garrett GT12 is a microscopic little turbo that would be cool but it's REALLY expensive for it's size...

You can probably get away with a GT15. They are physically small, plentiful and cheap.


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Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



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ForcedInduction
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05-17-2010, 05:41 PM #4
RHB51w on the Maserati Biturbo has two turbos split across 2.0-2.8L.
IHI RHF3 and RHB31 used on 660cc Japanese Kei cars.
KKK KP31 used on the Smart ForTwo (integrated manifold)
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ForcedInduction
05-17-2010, 05:41 PM #4

RHB51w on the Maserati Biturbo has two turbos split across 2.0-2.8L.
IHI RHF3 and RHB31 used on 660cc Japanese Kei cars.
KKK KP31 used on the Smart ForTwo (integrated manifold)

willbhere4u
Six in a row make her go!

2,507
05-17-2010, 09:14 PM #5
take some pics
Holset hx50 Tongue take some pics of the car
This post was last modified: 05-17-2010, 09:48 PM by willbhere4u.

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
05-17-2010, 09:14 PM #5

take some pics


Holset hx50 Tongue take some pics of the car


1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

Alastair E
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05-18-2010, 12:50 PM #6
(05-17-2010, 09:14 PM)willbhere4u take some pics
Holset hx50 Tongue take some pics of the car

Hmm!

Holset HX series is Bigger than the Engine complete! Thinking out loud--prolly never do anything with it, but the GT15 and the equiv KKK are Very common here, could easily get a good one for nowt!....
--Guess I could try one of those--for a larf!Big Grin

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Alastair E
05-18-2010, 12:50 PM #6

(05-17-2010, 09:14 PM)willbhere4u take some pics
Holset hx50 Tongue take some pics of the car

Hmm!

Holset HX series is Bigger than the Engine complete! Thinking out loud--prolly never do anything with it, but the GT15 and the equiv KKK are Very common here, could easily get a good one for nowt!....
--Guess I could try one of those--for a larf!Big Grin


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Actros617
What's a spark plug???

49
05-18-2010, 02:47 PM #7
stick that micro turbo at the egr exhaust port and egr intake and you got your self a somewhat compound turbo with 1% gain...

1984 300SD 4 Dr Diesel Sports Car (ARGUS) (Mine)

1987 300SDL Cruiser STOCK (My fathers)


Actros617
05-18-2010, 02:47 PM #7

stick that micro turbo at the egr exhaust port and egr intake and you got your self a somewhat compound turbo with 1% gain...


1984 300SD 4 Dr Diesel Sports Car (ARGUS) (Mine)

1987 300SDL Cruiser STOCK (My fathers)


Alastair E
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05-19-2010, 04:03 AM #8
(05-18-2010, 02:47 PM)Actros617 stick that micro turbo at the egr exhaust port and egr intake and you got your self a somewhat compound turbo with 1% gain...

No EGR on Aixam...Think Lawn Tractor or small generator engine, Z482 Kubota!

The exhaust pipe is only 1" diameter!

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Alastair E
05-19-2010, 04:03 AM #8

(05-18-2010, 02:47 PM)Actros617 stick that micro turbo at the egr exhaust port and egr intake and you got your self a somewhat compound turbo with 1% gain...

No EGR on Aixam...Think Lawn Tractor or small generator engine, Z482 Kubota!

The exhaust pipe is only 1" diameter!


[Image: 300TDnoplate.jpg]

ForcedInduction
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3,628
05-19-2010, 04:46 AM #9
He meant on your wagon....
ForcedInduction
05-19-2010, 04:46 AM #9

He meant on your wagon....

Alastair E
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05-19-2010, 03:00 PM #10
Oh, Right-

Here you go....

http://www.flickr.com/photos/14814619@N0...907110464/

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Alastair E
05-19-2010, 03:00 PM #10

Oh, Right-

Here you go....

http://www.flickr.com/photos/14814619@N0...907110464/


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Rudolf_Diesel
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579
05-19-2010, 07:14 PM #11
You could always install one of these:

   

1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
05-19-2010, 07:14 PM #11

You could always install one of these:

   


1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.

willbhere4u
Six in a row make her go!

2,507
05-19-2010, 09:39 PM #12
I want that on a trail bike!!!

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
05-19-2010, 09:39 PM #12

I want that on a trail bike!!!


1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

HughF_UK
GT2256V

140
05-20-2010, 04:06 AM #13
The ihi rhb32 from a 1.5 td corsa might do the job?
HughF_UK
05-20-2010, 04:06 AM #13

The ihi rhb32 from a 1.5 td corsa might do the job?

300SD81
GT2559V

187
05-21-2010, 09:49 PM #14
(05-19-2010, 07:14 PM)Rudolf_Diesel You could always install one of these:

how about one of these? Big Grin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQxvowrAUNY

Ich liebe meine Autos!

1981 Mercedes-Benz 300SD | 156K Miles | 2nd Owner | EGR Disabled [Removal Pending] | ALDA Removed | Straight Pipes | GT2256V??? | Laser Interceptor | Engine swap over summer, hopefully with GT2256V attached...

1981 Mercedes-Benz 300SD | Odo Stopped at 160K (at least 50K more) | EGR Disabled | ALDA All The Way Out | Straight pipes | FM-870 Remote Start Alarm System | B100 Biodiesel | AC Fixed x2 | Trunk crushed in Sad | Retired to garage.

Excessive speeding? It ain't excessive till I redline!
300SD81
05-21-2010, 09:49 PM #14

(05-19-2010, 07:14 PM)Rudolf_Diesel You could always install one of these:

how about one of these? Big Grin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQxvowrAUNY


Ich liebe meine Autos!

1981 Mercedes-Benz 300SD | 156K Miles | 2nd Owner | EGR Disabled [Removal Pending] | ALDA Removed | Straight Pipes | GT2256V??? | Laser Interceptor | Engine swap over summer, hopefully with GT2256V attached...

1981 Mercedes-Benz 300SD | Odo Stopped at 160K (at least 50K more) | EGR Disabled | ALDA All The Way Out | Straight pipes | FM-870 Remote Start Alarm System | B100 Biodiesel | AC Fixed x2 | Trunk crushed in Sad | Retired to garage.

Excessive speeding? It ain't excessive till I redline!

Rudolf_Diesel
Ask me if I care...

579
05-22-2010, 08:46 AM #15
(05-21-2010, 09:49 PM)300SD81
(05-19-2010, 07:14 PM)Rudolf_Diesel You could always install one of these:

how about one of these? Big Grin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQxvowrAUNY

I was looking for that when I found the other pic, they are pretty cool!

1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
05-22-2010, 08:46 AM #15

(05-21-2010, 09:49 PM)300SD81
(05-19-2010, 07:14 PM)Rudolf_Diesel You could always install one of these:

how about one of these? Big Grin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQxvowrAUNY

I was looking for that when I found the other pic, they are pretty cool!


1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.

 
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